RonRon wrote:

callmened wrote:Iagree with ronron...we have the talent...just one dimensional talent...a good pg could piece everything together

But for now were stuck cuz we invested so much in this roster...im optimistic though cuz well finally buy into teamd...and i think lin os the real deal

we can't change our core, i am okay with that, but we can build around them with players that will fit better than our continued 1 dimensional role players.
we need to remove the dead weight and take advantage of this deep draft class, with the FA's available.
We cannot depend on Amare, Melo, and Tyson to play playoff style minutes with small rotations like we did last year for the season.
Injuries will come, its the nature of the business, we must be ready for them, and stock up on talents.
Have players that that can develop a philosophy/system with, on both ends on the floor.

This is a 82 game season, with the time to practice, and build chemistry.
Again, we need the right players capable of executing this philosophy that the coach/GM must both work together with.

CrushAlot wrote:

RonRon wrote:

callmened wrote:Iagree with ronron...we have the talent...just one dimensional talent...a good pg could piece everything together

But for now were stuck cuz we invested so much in this roster...im optimistic though cuz well finally buy into teamd...and i think lin os the real deal

we can't change our core, i am okay with that, but we can build around them with players that will fit better than our continued 1 dimensional role players.
we need to remove the dead weight and take advantage of this deep draft class, with the FA's available.
We cannot depend on Amare, Melo, and Tyson to play playoff style minutes with small rotations like we did last year for the season.
Injuries will come, its the nature of the business, we must be ready for them, and stock up on talents.
Have players that that can develop a philosophy/system with, on both ends on the floor.

This is a 82 game season, with the time to practice, and build chemistry.
Again, we need the right players capable of executing this philosophy that the coach/GM must both work together with.

I am not sure who you are considering deadweight or how they would get rid of it. The Knicks are committed to Douglas. I think they will bring back Fields and I think Jorts and Jordan are good value for the money. Obviously if there is away to upgrade any of those guys you do it. But the Knicks have 3 mil mle and vet minimums to offer. I think you go for a quality vet or two with that money and those spots. Barring injuries, Jorts and Jordan probably don't play anyway.

you are saying it urself, we have players that probably wont play but are on our roster, that do no need to be, with team options.
Why not add players that can that have the ability to crack to rotation?

I wouldn't base too much on how they looked offensively because there was a lot going on and going wrong last year. We know about the issues at PG and the issues with style of play. This coming year we can look forward to a more cohesive approach and an improved backcourt.
We'll have real continuity this year due to so many returning players. This was a huge part of why OKC, SA, Philly, CHi, Indy and Miami looked so good. Those teams were all together the previous year and the Knicks added a bunch of new guys. You have to have a team together for a while and on top of that we had some incompatibility issues with the coach and Star player. That won't be the case next year.

Another issue was both STAT and Melo had injury issues last summer that prevented them from working out. So far both are looking trim and in shape early. The only setback is Shump. Let's see what Grunwald can do to tighten up the roster.

nixluva wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Same ass team finished the regualar season 18-6. I'll roll with the same ass team if they're healthy and come to camp ready to play.

It'll be the same team PLUS a needed addition. That is something to look forward to!!! As others have said when healthy the team was really good! In the East this team is top 3 IMO. What else could we hope for given the options we had?

It all depends on what Grunwald can get done this FA period. At least we have some money to sign people and there are a lot of good role players out there.

If Amare isnt done and bounces back i dont see why the Knicks cant compete with anyone outside of Miami

callmened wrote:I think youre being too hard on the team. U must be optimistic yet realistic...we were garbage for ten yrs...the last two yrs weve upgraded the talent and improved. Last yr we had the equivalent of a 45 win team...and we were bit with the injury bug. If we stay healthy..buy into woodys defense and when lin improves well b better...have faith

No were not on the level of miami but most teams are not either

We are garbage for over 40 years now

knickscity wrote:

JamesLin wrote:

callmened wrote:I think youre being too hard on the team. U must be optimistic yet realistic...we were garbage for ten yrs...the last two yrs weve upgraded the talent and improved. Last yr we had the equivalent of a 45 win team...and we were bit with the injury bug. If we stay healthy..buy into woodys defense and when lin improves well b better...have faith

No were not on the level of miami but most teams are not either

We are garbage for over 40 years now

False.

Yeah, it's more like 11 years. That makes me feel much better!

Jmpasq wrote:Actually we are going to have a worse team not the same team