MSG3 wrote:It's official. Judgement upheld by arbitrator. Lin and Novak have bird rights.

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
The rule will now be that players who are claimed from waivers will have the same "Early Bird" rights as if they had been traded...

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
Under the settlement, the union agreed to limit the scope of the ruling in exchange for the league's agreement to drop its appeal.

knickscity wrote:

MSG3 wrote:It's official. Judgement upheld by arbitrator. Lin and Novak have bird rights.

Yep, they reached a settlement.

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
The rule will now be that players who are claimed from waivers will have the same "Early Bird" rights as if they had been traded...

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
Under the settlement, the union agreed to limit the scope of the ruling in exchange for the league's agreement to drop its appeal.

The exaulted leader obviously recognized that a strong Knick team is good for the overall health of the league. Great news for us bad news for the rest of the league.

Bonn1997 wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

knickscity wrote:

MSG3 wrote:It's official. Judgement upheld by arbitrator. Lin and Novak have bird rights.

Yep, they reached a settlement.

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
The rule will now be that players who are claimed from waivers will have the same "Early Bird" rights as if they had been traded...

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone
Under the settlement, the union agreed to limit the scope of the ruling in exchange for the league's agreement to drop its appeal.

The exaulted leader obviously recognized that a strong Knick team is good for the overall health of the league. Great news for us bad news for the rest of the league.

Knicks fans need to stop thinking everything is always about them.

FeltonandAmare wrote:

RonRon wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

That's how I feel about this list.
There's a few other guys I would entertain before Foye:
Courtney Lee
Danny Green
Matt Barnes
Spencer Hawes
...but that's just me

Agree about Courtney Lee- I remember people saying he looked like he was going to be great when the Magic went on that playoff run a few years ago (his rookie year?), then they traded him, and he never really got it going again. Still, the Rockets are good evaluators of talent so if he is any good, they'll just match anything we offer (plus they probably want to keep him as he was friends with Dwight Howard I think)

Maybe add:

Gary Neal
Patty Mills

To the list. I'd be happy with Andre Miller- though he does moan when he's not a starter, and he's not a good shooter either. Still, he's played with Melo before and he's a good passer.

How many of the playoff teams will have the full MLE to offer? $3mil isn't much to snare a good player. So yeah, as someone posted earlier we can kiss goodbye to Nash, Ray Allen, Odom (about to be traded) etc.

But what is everyones priority for the MLE- a back up PG, a SG or some front court depth- we can't use it on all three.

My point exactly about the draft and why I am so upset.
We cannot address of all our holes and needs.
At the very least, we could have a got a shooter in the G/F position, PG, or a F that could rebound/block shots and DEF consistently, if Amare fails again.

A second rounder is going to make up for Amare "failing again". Give me a break. Some of you are so out of touch with reality it's not even funny.

Many players have become great rotation players and even stars that were picked in the 2nd round.
This is considerably a deep draft, next year, is going to be one of the weaker drafts.
Like Kenyon Martins, that is bad....

What is so funny? Amare is not a good rebounder/defender, he has no post game.
Many players that come out of college have much better fundamental game.

Henry Sims
Kevin Jones
Drew Gordon

stretch forward John Shurna

Players drafted after 48,

Kyle O'Quinn
Kris Joseph
Darius Johnson-Odom
Marcus Denmon
Robert Sacre

Undrafted FA
================
PG/G
Machado
Scoop Jardine
Tu Holloway

G/F

Hollis Robinson
Alex Young
Willam Buford

F
John Shurna
Kevin Jones
Drew Gordon

F/C
Henry Sims
Yancy Gates

http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft
click the players to see and judge for yourself before concluding that they CANNOT compete as rotation player
Again, this is a DEEP draft, many players have have been drafted way and produced as rotational players and some even stars/6th man roles

crzymdups wrote:I've read that the Bulls are likely to let CJ Watson walk. He'd be on my list, too.

I think right now I feel that the Knicks need a backup PG and a backup 4/5 for Amar'e/Tyson.

I'd go after:

Steve Nash (hey you have to ask, though it's doubtful)
CJ Watson
Randy Foye
Jamal Crawford
Kirk Hinrich

Jason Thompson
Kenyon Martin
Jeff Green (though I think he re-signs with Boston)

another wildcard is Dejuan Blair, who has asked out of San Antonio.

I agree about Blaire, Martin, and Jeff Green.
Trying not to throw RFA in the mix though.
I feel we have to change our role players from our core.
As a veteran min players, 2 way players that can play def and hit a space the floor.

Delonte West
Patty Mills
Anthony Tolliver
Deshaun Stevenson
Pietrus

and add shooters to space the floor for vet min

Redd
Delfino
Kapono

players that will cost more than veteran min and less than MLE

Danny Green
Gary Neal
Kirk Hinrich

JamesKPolk wrote:

Problematic: Douglas at $2.07 mil, Gadzuric at $1.4 mil. Also stuck with dead contract of Balkman ($1.7 mil), who they waived last

Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT
And no, I didn't realize until today either that Gadzuric got a 2nd year. Not sure how much is guaranteed, tho.

Brilliant move by the front office to give Dan Gadzuric a 2 year deal and pick up Douglas' option.

Wow, we could have spread out Balkman's contract too, but don't believe we did so.
And it anything it should have been a team option for Dan Gadzuric, which should not be guaranteed at all.
What is Grunweld thinking?
We already have Jorts and Jordan, in which both looked miles ahead of an aged Gadzuric.
Too much dead weight in salary and roster spots already on the roster as is....

JamesKPolk wrote:

Problematic: Douglas at $2.07 mil, Gadzuric at $1.4 mil. Also stuck with dead contract of Balkman ($1.7 mil), who they waived last

Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT
And no, I didn't realize until today either that Gadzuric got a 2nd year. Not sure how much is guaranteed, tho.

Brilliant move by the front office to give Dan Gadzuric a 2 year deal and pick up Douglas' option.

The second year of Gadzurics contract is not guaranteed according to Alan Hahn. We had to extend TD, as at the time we made the decision, we didn't have bird rights for Novak and Lin, so we would have had no MLE. On top of that there was guarantee JR Smith would re-sign either. SO essentially we could have lost Novak and JR and had no means to replace them other than the Vet minimum- we had to pick up TD's contract as insurance.

Apparantly TD is playing in the summer league- if he plays well, then I think he is tradeable.

JamesKPolk wrote:

Problematic: Douglas at $2.07 mil, Gadzuric at $1.4 mil. Also stuck with dead contract of Balkman ($1.7 mil), who they waived last

Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT
And no, I didn't realize until today either that Gadzuric got a 2nd year. Not sure how much is guaranteed, tho.

Brilliant move by the front office to give Dan Gadzuric a 2 year deal and pick up Douglas' option.

I don't like the Toney move one bit - though I'm curious if he can get over what essentially seemed to be a lack of confidence and at least be a decent shooter/defender again. But Gadz is unguaranteed in year 2 and of course he won't be back.

Also, KG just signed a three year deal with Boston. Hate to say I told you so, but he's never leaving Boston. As long as he can play he will play. Guy is too competitive. Boston isn't going anywhere. Knicks will have to BEAT them, not being escorted past them. And the Knicks CAN beat them. And it makes it more fun if they beat them anyway.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221903/Raptors_Expected_To_Offer_$12M_Annually_To_Nash

No way he turns that down.

So before FA has even begun, we've lost Nash, Odom and KG. Probably Ray Allen too. However, although pundits say Ray Allen is signing with the Heat, maybe there's still some hope as we can offer him the same amount that they can, plus we can offer him a starting role with us, where as the heat can't.