MSG3 wrote:Nobody can offer Lin more than anyone else. Knicks will match whatever other teams try to sign him for.

Huh? What does that first sentence mean?
According to the rules, he can only get a max avg contract for the next 2 years, around and above $5 mill, but teams can offer him more than that in the extended years of the contract they offer him. So let's say the Lakers want Lin. They could offer him max avg over the next 2 years, then 12 mill year 3, 14 mill year 4, hypothetically. I'm not saying it will happen, but it could. And the Knicks would have the right to match the offer and sign him. If I was a GM for a team like TO or Brooklyn, I would launch a big contract at him to either gamble on him or, more importantly, raise the $$ Knicks would have to pay him in those later seasons if they match any offer.

JohnStarksFan wrote:

MSG3 wrote:Nobody can offer Lin more than anyone else. Knicks will match whatever other teams try to sign him for.

Huh? What does that first sentence mean?
According to the rules, he can only get a max avg contract for the next 2 years, around and above $5 mill, but teams can offer him more than that in the extended years of the contract they offer him. So let's say the Lakers want Lin. They could offer him max avg over the next 2 years, then 12 mill year 3, 14 mill year 4, hypothetically. I'm not saying it will happen, but it could. And the Knicks would have the right to match the offer and sign him. If I was a GM for a team like TO or Brooklyn, I would launch a big contract at him to either gamble on him or, more importantly, raise the $$ Knicks would have to pay him in those later seasons if they match any offer.

I don't htink that's correct but I could be wrong.

Nalod wrote:Draguc could be Nets plan "B" if Deron bolts.

Nets on the surface look silly but its going to be interesting to see how it all really plays out.

Nets are supposably after illasova could be interesting if they get him and dragic.. We know dqill is gone

Mray20 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Mray20 wrote:The Knicks were stinking it up and Jeremy Lin had nothing to lose so that is not pressure, also Amare and Melo got hurt so Dantoni let him do whatever he wanted to do on the court even when he was turning the ball over because there were no other options. I like Lin but I don't understand why people say he was under so much pressure and handled the bright lights when he played 26games come on now and when Miami pressured him what happened it that game when all the basketball word was watching.

Jesus Christ Lin had one bad game it happens. I mean Lin was also exhausted because he was playing insane minutes and he had to deal with the media crap. Nobody is saying that he is the next rondo but its obvious the kid was overlooked and he has talent and an upside. Brining in a veteran point guard with him and i feel that will help him even more

I'm just not sold on him yet but I do want to keep him but people need to be realistic about their expecations of him ,We need a full year of him starting and playing with a Knick team at full strength.

Mray20 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Mray20 wrote:The Knicks were stinking it up and Jeremy Lin had nothing to lose so that is not pressure, also Amare and Melo got hurt so Dantoni let him do whatever he wanted to do on the court even when he was turning the ball over because there were no other options. I like Lin but I don't understand why people say he was under so much pressure and handled the bright lights when he played 26games come on now and when Miami pressured him what happened it that game when all the basketball word was watching.

Jesus Christ Lin had one bad game it happens. I mean Lin was also exhausted because he was playing insane minutes and he had to deal with the media crap. Nobody is saying that he is the next rondo but its obvious the kid was overlooked and he has talent and an upside. Brining in a veteran point guard with him and i feel that will help him even more

I'm just not sold on him yet but I do want to keep him but people need to be realistic about their expecations of him ,We need a full year of him starting and playing with a Knick team at full strength.

worried how he handled the pressure? Dude was hours from being cut and he unleashed Linsanity. The kids stones are freaking huge.

He is not CP3 or Nash.

He does not have to be to succeed.

Mray20 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Mray20 wrote:The Knicks were stinking it up and Jeremy Lin had nothing to lose so that is not pressure, also Amare and Melo got hurt so Dantoni let him do whatever he wanted to do on the court even when he was turning the ball over because there were no other options. I like Lin but I don't understand why people say he was under so much pressure and handled the bright lights when he played 26games come on now and when Miami pressured him what happened it that game when all the basketball word was watching.

Jesus Christ Lin had one bad game it happens. I mean Lin was also exhausted because he was playing insane minutes and he had to deal with the media crap. Nobody is saying that he is the next rondo but its obvious the kid was overlooked and he has talent and an upside. Brining in a veteran point guard with him and i feel that will help him even more

I'm just not sold on him yet but I do want to keep him but people need to be realistic about their expecations of him ,We need a full year of him starting and playing with a Knick team at full strength.

worried how he handled the pressure? Dude was hours from being cut and he unleashed Linsanity. The kids stones are freaking huge.

He is not CP3 or Nash.

He does not have to be to succeed.

He had nothing to lose he was probably going to get cut it's not like he was fighting to stay in the rotation and Knicks had no point guards plus he didn't have to look over his shoulder and Dantoni wouldn't pull him no matter how many turnovers he had or how many shots he took. He's a decent player I like the guy but come on when nobody expects anything from you that is not pressure.

Mray20 wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Mray20 wrote:The Knicks were stinking it up and Jeremy Lin had nothing to lose so that is not pressure, also Amare and Melo got hurt so Dantoni let him do whatever he wanted to do on the court even when he was turning the ball over because there were no other options. I like Lin but I don't understand why people say he was under so much pressure and handled the bright lights when he played 26games come on now and when Miami pressured him what happened it that game when all the basketball word was watching.

Jesus Christ Lin had one bad game it happens. I mean Lin was also exhausted because he was playing insane minutes and he had to deal with the media crap. Nobody is saying that he is the next rondo but its obvious the kid was overlooked and he has talent and an upside. Brining in a veteran point guard with him and i feel that will help him even more

I'm just not sold on him yet but I do want to keep him but people need to be realistic about their expecations of him ,We need a full year of him starting and playing with a Knick team at full strength.

worried how he handled the pressure? Dude was hours from being cut and he unleashed Linsanity. The kids stones are freaking huge.

He is not CP3 or Nash.

He does not have to be to succeed.

He had nothing to lose he was probably going to get cut it's not like he was fighting to stay in the rotation and Knicks had no point guards plus he didn't have to look over his shoulder and Dantoni wouldn't pull him no matter how many turnovers he had or how many shots he took. He's a decent player I like the guy but come on when nobody expects anything from you that is not pressure.

I like Jeremy Lin I just think some of us are really expecting way too much from him 26 games is not enough to tell who a player really is, It's a different scenario and the Nets were not a good team but does anyone remember Chris Childs on the Nets after they traded Kenny Anderson, this dude played great and look what happened when he singed the big contract and played a full season for the Knicks,we need to see how he is over a full season with all the guys healthy and him running the offense to know what he really is.

The basic skills we saw from Lin are the kinds of things that you just have to be born with. Being able to make precision passes from all distances and angles. Getting into the paint consistently and hitting tough shots in traffic. Having the poise to hit game winning shots and take over games late in the 4th qtr. is an instinctual thing and not every player has that gift. Lin is for real IMO. Sure he's just a kid and has a lot to learn, but he showed a TON of real NBA skills that very few players actually have the ability to do.

I think you underestimate just how hard it is to run a Pro offense. Did you not notice how guys like Duhon, Felton, , Billups, B Davis, TD and others struggled to run MDA's offense??? It only looks easy to some and guys like Lin make it look easier than it really is. This is why MDA gave him a long leash, cuz it's the rare player that can see the game that way and actually execute on a high level. Really the only thing Lin needed to learn was more patience and he started to learn that at the end of the year before he went down.

Mray20 wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Mray20 wrote:The Knicks were stinking it up and Jeremy Lin had nothing to lose so that is not pressure, also Amare and Melo got hurt so Dantoni let him do whatever he wanted to do on the court even when he was turning the ball over because there were no other options. I like Lin but I don't understand why people say he was under so much pressure and handled the bright lights when he played 26games come on now and when Miami pressured him what happened it that game when all the basketball word was watching.

Jesus Christ Lin had one bad game it happens. I mean Lin was also exhausted because he was playing insane minutes and he had to deal with the media crap. Nobody is saying that he is the next rondo but its obvious the kid was overlooked and he has talent and an upside. Brining in a veteran point guard with him and i feel that will help him even more

I'm just not sold on him yet but I do want to keep him but people need to be realistic about their expecations of him ,We need a full year of him starting and playing with a Knick team at full strength.

worried how he handled the pressure? Dude was hours from being cut and he unleashed Linsanity. The kids stones are freaking huge.

He is not CP3 or Nash.

He does not have to be to succeed.

He had nothing to lose he was probably going to get cut it's not like he was fighting to stay in the rotation and Knicks had no point guards plus he didn't have to look over his shoulder and Dantoni wouldn't pull him no matter how many turnovers he had or how many shots he took. He's a decent player I like the guy but come on when nobody expects anything from you that is not pressure.

I like Jeremy Lin I just think some of us are really expecting way too much from him 26 games is not enough to tell who a player really is, It's a different scenario and the Nets were not a good team but does anyone remember Chris Childs on the Nets after they traded Kenny Anderson, this dude played great and look what happened when he singed the big contract and played a full season for the Knicks,we need to see how he is over a full season with all the guys healthy and him running the offense to know what he really is.

gunsnewing wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Mray20 wrote:The Knicks were stinking it up and Jeremy Lin had nothing to lose so that is not pressure, also Amare and Melo got hurt so Dantoni let him do whatever he wanted to do on the court even when he was turning the ball over because there were no other options. I like Lin but I don't understand why people say he was under so much pressure and handled the bright lights when he played 26games come on now and when Miami pressured him what happened it that game when all the basketball word was watching.

Jesus Christ Lin had one bad game it happens. I mean Lin was also exhausted because he was playing insane minutes and he had to deal with the media crap. Nobody is saying that he is the next rondo but its obvious the kid was overlooked and he has talent and an upside. Brining in a veteran point guard with him and i feel that will help him even more

I'm just not sold on him yet but I do want to keep him but people need to be realistic about their expecations of him ,We need a full year of him starting and playing with a Knick team at full strength.

worried how he handled the pressure? Dude was hours from being cut and he unleashed Linsanity. The kids stones are freaking huge.

He is not CP3 or Nash.

He does not have to be to succeed.

He had nothing to lose he was probably going to get cut it's not like he was fighting to stay in the rotation and Knicks had no point guards plus he didn't have to look over his shoulder and Dantoni wouldn't pull him no matter how many turnovers he had or how many shots he took. He's a decent player I like the guy but come on when nobody expects anything from you that is not pressure.

I like Jeremy Lin I just think some of us are really expecting way too much from him 26 games is not enough to tell who a player really is, It's a different scenario and the Nets were not a good team but does anyone remember Chris Childs on the Nets after they traded Kenny Anderson, this dude played great and look what happened when he singed the big contract and played a full season for the Knicks,we need to see how he is over a full season with all the guys healthy and him running the offense to know what he really is.

The basic skills we saw from Lin are the kinds of things that you just have to be born with. Being able to make precision passes from all distances and angles. Getting into the paint consistently and hitting tough shots in traffic. Having the poise to hit game winning shots and take over games late in the 4th qtr. is an instinctual thing and not every player has that gift. Lin is for real IMO. Sure he's just a kid and has a lot to learn, but he showed a TON of real NBA skills that very few players actually have the ability to do.

I think you underestimate just how hard it is to run a Pro offense. Did you not notice how guys like Duhon, Felton, , Billups, B Davis, TD and others struggled to run MDA's offense??? It only looks easy to some and guys like Lin make it look easier than it really is. This is why MDA gave him a long leash, cuz it's the rare player that can see the game that way and actually execute on a high level. Really the only thing Lin needed to learn was more patience and he started to learn that at the end of the year before he went down.

What are you talking about Duhon looked like an all star averaging a double double for the first half of the season until he broked down and Felton looked like an all star as well til he got traded under Dantoni's system

Stupid argument. Ray Felton is a dantoni pg. lin is lin because of lin. Because he wreaks havoc with his penetration in the have court. You dont need dantoni's plays when the opposing D never knows if you are going to drive and finish or dish it out to shooters who are hopefully not named landry fields, jared jeffries & jr smith

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Mray20 wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Mray20 wrote:The Knicks were stinking it up and Jeremy Lin had nothing to lose so that is not pressure, also Amare and Melo got hurt so Dantoni let him do whatever he wanted to do on the court even when he was turning the ball over because there were no other options. I like Lin but I don't understand why people say he was under so much pressure and handled the bright lights when he played 26games come on now and when Miami pressured him what happened it that game when all the basketball word was watching.

Jesus Christ Lin had one bad game it happens. I mean Lin was also exhausted because he was playing insane minutes and he had to deal with the media crap. Nobody is saying that he is the next rondo but its obvious the kid was overlooked and he has talent and an upside. Brining in a veteran point guard with him and i feel that will help him even more

I'm just not sold on him yet but I do want to keep him but people need to be realistic about their expecations of him ,We need a full year of him starting and playing with a Knick team at full strength.

worried how he handled the pressure? Dude was hours from being cut and he unleashed Linsanity. The kids stones are freaking huge.

He is not CP3 or Nash.

He does not have to be to succeed.

He had nothing to lose he was probably going to get cut it's not like he was fighting to stay in the rotation and Knicks had no point guards plus he didn't have to look over his shoulder and Dantoni wouldn't pull him no matter how many turnovers he had or how many shots he took. He's a decent player I like the guy but come on when nobody expects anything from you that is not pressure.

I dont agree at all it was a pressue situation for him and the team. The team was very close fromfallin gout of playoff contention. I dont get why some fans dont like lin. I mean the kid can play and he is a team first guy. those are the type of player you want

I do. They are afraid that Lin will steal the spotlight from their precious little sissy.