gunsnewing wrote:We have youth. We need to win now. We need vets who are capable of playing right away in case of injuries and such. You know the thing that derailed our chances in the playoffs 2yrs in a row. Odom comes cheap

You sound like what brought us:
Glen Rice
Vin Baker
Penny Hardaway
Jalen Rose
Antonio McDyess
Eddie House
Tracy McGrady
Baron Davis
--all at the wrong time when they were too old.

Just leave Odom alone. Spend the money to get someone 8 years younger with real value and upside. That's all I'm saying. None of those other signings worked out.

JohnStarksFan wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We have youth. We need to win now. We need vets who are capable of playing right away in case of injuries and such. You know the thing that derailed our chances in the playoffs 2yrs in a row. Odom comes cheap

You sound like what brought us:
Glen Rice
Vin Baker
Penny Hardaway
Jalen Rose
Antonio McDyess
Eddie House
Tracy McGrady
Baron Davis
--all at the wrong time when they were too old.

Just leave Odom alone. Spend the money to get someone 8 years younger with real value and upside. That's all I'm saying. None of those other signings worked out.

gunsnewing wrote:

franco12 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We have youth. We need to win now. We need vets who are capable of playing right away in case of injuries and such. You know the thing that derailed our chances in the playoffs 2yrs in a row

what youth do we have?

Melo, shump, lin, novak and amare & chandler will be only 30. You tell me what old over the hill superstara this team has?

This team has 3 years to win with the "big 3" in their prime. The other guys are role players who will not make a significant impact on this team when the skills of the aforementioned 3 begin to decline.

gunsnewing wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

franco12 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We have youth. We need to win now. We need vets who are capable of playing right away in case of injuries and such. You know the thing that derailed our chances in the playoffs 2yrs in a row

what youth do we have?

Melo, shump, lin, novak and amare & chandler will be only 30. You tell me what old over the hill superstara this team has?

This team has 3 years to win with the "big 3" in their prime. The other guys are role players who will not make a significant impact on this team when the skills of the aforementioned 3 begin to decline.

Tell that to kobe, kg, pierce & duncan. Even after Amare's contract comes off the books or is traded at the tail end. Melo & Tyson will still be relatively young. Especially Melo who will only be 30 or 31

Sorry mate. Don't think Melo and Kobe can be compared work ethic/conditioning/durability wise. Same with the rest. Melo needs to really show something to be included in that list. And reminder, all those guys got a ring at least once. Melo needs to earn his right to be included in that company career wise. I hope he does it in the orange and blue he started in, only time will tell (and his offseason workouts will tell a lot too).

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We have youth. We need to win now. We need vets who are capable of playing right away in case of injuries and such. You know the thing that derailed our chances in the playoffs 2yrs in a row. Odom comes cheap

You sound like what brought us:
Glen Rice
Vin Baker
Penny Hardaway
Jalen Rose
Antonio McDyess
Eddie House
Tracy McGrady
Baron Davis
--all at the wrong time when they were too old.

Just leave Odom alone. Spend the money to get someone 8 years younger with real value and upside. That's all I'm saying. None of those other signings worked out.

You are not taking their contracts into account. Name as many players as you like other than Baron whi was damaged goods whuch one of those guys were acquired for the vet min? You guys areissing the point. We arent bringing in the odom of 5yrs ago. We are adding a veteran to tbe bench that knows how to play and compliments chandler, amare & melo. He is easily the best passer and rebounder & is second defensively only to Tyson and thats arguable

At $3 mil a year Odom might be an outstanding deal. If we didn't have all our money tied up on you know who, we'd have the potential to get several steals. I'd love to have the ability to add Lin, Fields, Odom, and some other potential great bargains. But we don't. We have to pick one. I'm not convinced that Odom is *the* best choice.

But if you had 3 mill... would you really give it to Odom instead of going after a guy like Lavoy Allen or Ryan Hollins?
Am I that crazy that that doesn't make more sense for this team given it's history?

JohnStarksFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We have youth. We need to win now. We need vets who are capable of playing right away in case of injuries and such. You know the thing that derailed our chances in the playoffs 2yrs in a row. Odom comes cheap

You sound like what brought us:
Glen Rice
Vin Baker
Penny Hardaway
Jalen Rose
Antonio McDyess
Eddie House
Tracy McGrady
Baron Davis
--all at the wrong time when they were too old.

Just leave Odom alone. Spend the money to get someone 8 years younger with real value and upside. That's all I'm saying. None of those other signings worked out.

You are not taking their contracts into account. Name as many players as you like other than Baron whi was damaged goods whuch one of those guys were acquired for the vet min? You guys areissing the point. We arent bringing in the odom of 5yrs ago. We are adding a veteran to tbe bench that knows how to play and compliments chandler, amare & melo. He is easily the best passer and rebounder & is second defensively only to Tyson and thats arguable

At $3 mil a year Odom might be an outstanding deal. If we didn't have all our money tied up on you know who, we'd have the potential to get several steals. I'd love to have the ability to add Lin, Fields, Odom, and some other potential great bargains. But we don't. We have to pick one. I'm not convinced that Odom is *the* best choice.

But if you had 3 mill... would you really give it to Odom instead of going after a guy like Lavoy Allen or Ryan Hollins?
Am I that crazy that that doesn't make more sense for this team given it's history?

Bonn1997 wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:We have youth. We need to win now. We need vets who are capable of playing right away in case of injuries and such. You know the thing that derailed our chances in the playoffs 2yrs in a row. Odom comes cheap

You sound like what brought us:
Glen Rice
Vin Baker
Penny Hardaway
Jalen Rose
Antonio McDyess
Eddie House
Tracy McGrady
Baron Davis
--all at the wrong time when they were too old.

Just leave Odom alone. Spend the money to get someone 8 years younger with real value and upside. That's all I'm saying. None of those other signings worked out.

You are not taking their contracts into account. Name as many players as you like other than Baron whi was damaged goods whuch one of those guys were acquired for the vet min? You guys areissing the point. We arent bringing in the odom of 5yrs ago. We are adding a veteran to tbe bench that knows how to play and compliments chandler, amare & melo. He is easily the best passer and rebounder & is second defensively only to Tyson and thats arguable

At $3 mil a year Odom might be an outstanding deal. If we didn't have all our money tied up on you know who, we'd have the potential to get several steals. I'd love to have the ability to add Lin, Fields, Odom, and some other potential great bargains. But we don't. We have to pick one. I'm not convinced that Odom is *the* best choice.

But if you had 3 mill... would you really give it to Odom instead of going after a guy like Lavoy Allen or Ryan Hollins?
Am I that crazy that that doesn't make more sense for this team given it's history?

No but if I had several dozen mil (and we would without Melo and Amare), I would gladly give $3 mil to Odom.

Right. Which is why we need to leave his starstruck ass alone and let him get his legs back under him somewhere else. Let Orlando gamble on him.