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5/22/2012  10:34 PM
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MS wrote:Listen, it’s really hard to get on Mike’s case for the job that he did here. No coach in the entire league had a tougher job. Remember we were going to go to the playoffs with Zach, Jamal and Lee in his first season then they broke up the team on him and made a number of trades that didn’t work out Mobley, Larry Hughes etc. Then Walsh made a terrible selection in Jordan Hill bypassing Lawson, Jennings, Holiday and leaving the team weak at the guard spot. When he finally got the team that he wanted the Knicks gut the entire team in order to bring in Melo and a largely inefficient Chancey Billups. Then the team retains Billups in one of the stupidest moves all season long to bring in chandler and turn the team over to the worst starting guard rotation in the NBA.

Please tell me how you can be successful as a coach with that much turnover?
Pop might be one of the greatest coaches of all time, but when you have a complimentary HOF nucleus and the best executive in all of sports running the show it’s much easier to look good.

Again, like it’s always said it’s about getting the right star, not just a star. Amare can’t play defense, Chandler is one of the worst offensive players in the game and Melo is all isolation all the time. We the Knicks bought in the ball was constantly moving, players were getting easy baskets, but our guy is concerned with his stats not with the team game. So if you want to put that one the coach it’s fine. But, when the chips were down Melo ball looks great in the stat sheet, but not the win column.

Makes you wonder how Woodson managed to go 18-6 playing Melo ball. Stop with the excuses, Woodson did a much better job with the same roster than MDA did. It took MDA 42 games to win 18, Woodson won 18 in 24 games....

I'm so tired of this BS about the 18-6 record. For one it was a small sample of a season, we don't know how much of it was due to the usual boost a new coach gets when there's a coaching change and Woody had the teams BEST F'n PLAYER actually buying in and trying hard. Melo clearly wasn't doing that and even admitted that he wasn't. Woody initially changed NOTHING. Not the offense or the defense. They hadn't even had much time to practice and put in anything new. It was purely a change in attitude starting with the teams best player. Anytime you have your best player busting his A on D then all of a sudden things start to work much better. Melo didn't even start hitting a higher % shots until March 28th so all the early success was mostly just extra hustle, which almost ALWAYS happens when you change the coach. Woody clearly got a nice boost from the Change of Coach burst that teams often go thru.

Let's see if Woody wouldn't have run into problems playing Melo ball for most of the year if he was the head coach from day one. Back when Melo was not in great shape and was shooting like crap and getting his shot blocked repeatedly.

Woody had the good Melo for all of April. MDA NEVER saw the good Melo this year.

Under MDA this was what Melo did:


DATE MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Jan 35.6 8.3-21.1 .393 1.4-4.4 .311 5.4-6.8 .789 6.7 4.6 0.4 1.3 2.4 3.4 23.3
Feb 31.5 6.1-15.4 .398 0.6-2.3 .278 3.6-4.4 .829 4.0 3.4 0.5 0.8 2.4 2.1 16.5
Mar 32.1 6.7-16.2 .415 0.9-3.3 .268 5.1-6.5 .782 6.3 3.0 0.5 1.3 3.0 2.3 19.4

Melo under Woody from March 14-31st. Melo didn't get hot until March 28th and then went on a tear. The wins were mostly increased effort on D and as time went on the offense changed more to focus on Melo.

DATE OPP   SCORE     MIN FGM-FGA  FG%   3PM-3PA  3P%  FTM-FTA  FT%  REB  AST  BLK  STL  PF  TO PTS
3/14 POR W 121-79 25 6-12 .500 3-6 .500 1-2 .500 2 7 0 1 1 2 16
3/16 IND W 115-100 23 4-12 .333 0-3 .000 4-5 .800 7 5 0 2 4 0 12
3/17 @IND W 102-88 30 6-13 .462 1-4 .250 3-7 .429 4 3 0 0 3 3 16
3/20 TOR W 106-87 31 5-15 .333 1-3 .333 6-8 .750 8 5 0 3 3 2 17
3/21 @PHI W 82-79 34 5-15 .333 0-2 .000 0-1 .000 5 2 0 0 4 2 10
3/23 @TOR L 79-96 30 6-15 .400 0-4 .000 0-0 .000 9 3 1 2 4 4 12
3/24 DET W 101-79 29 5-12 .417 0-1 .000 5-6 .833 3 1 0 1 3 1 15
3/26 MIL W 89-80 35 8-20 .400 0-2 .000 12-12 1.000 12 1 1 1 3 3 28
3/28 ORL W 108-86 26 9-15 .600 2-5 .400 5-6 .833 5 6 1 1 2 3 25
3/30 @ATL L 90-100 40 11-24 .458 1-4 .250 13-14 .929 9 2 2 5 3 5 36
3/31 CLE W 91-75 33 7-14 .500 1-2 .500 4-8 .500 4 2 0 1 4 2 19

Then Melo went nuts in April and Woody benefited from a HOT Melo in the last month.

Date  MIN  FGM-FGA   FG%  3PM-3PA  3P%   FTM-FTA   FT%	REB	AST	BLK	STL	PF	TO	PTS
April 36.9 11.3-22.8 .495 1.9-4.2 .460 5.4-6.7 .813 7.3 3.6 0.4 1.1 3.1 2.5 29.8

The team defended well all year and particularly well during Linsanity and after MDA resigned. The numbers were pretty close defensively during Linsanity and under Woody. The Knicks D didn't fall off after Linsanity until Melo returned during the 10 games just before he resigned and the team went 2-8. During Linsanity the D was giving up about 93 ppg and under woody 91. I know people feel that Woody did magic during his run, but defensively Melo put out FAR more effort under Woody and it started day one, which wasn't anything to do with coaching, but merely Melo deciding to step it up on that very 1st day.

If Woody had been the coach early on who knows if he ends up with a better record given how poorly Melo was playing early on, due really only to Melo himself.

The Linsanity schedule was a joke - BIG EFFIN DIFFERENCE!!!

LETS KEEP IGNORING THAT CAUSE ITS MORE FUN

The linsanity schedule was not a joke, we had a joke of a team without amare and melo, and to think, all we were hoping for is a little PT for lin.. and no one on earth thought we would win one game after thos 2 went down..I'll be the first to admit it. We look like a d-leauge roster with a bonifide center..We were losing with amare and melo, did you really think it would get much better..

That right there shows you what kind of coach MDA could be when players buy in..Give him the most mundane roster with a floor general and he can win

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5/22/2012  10:36 PM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I am not sure why we are still talking about MDA. The man is gone. He is no longer a part of the Knicks. What's done is done. I don't like or hate him. I am totally indifferent to him now that he's just a part of the past. I am not sure why we (the forum) or some are still hung up on him?

I think its because MDA and Walsh turned nothing and to.something, and a lot of people on here was witnessing what MDA was trying to do here. If he had an owner that backed him, and not pull the rug from what MDA and Walsh was trying to do, then we could've had something special for a long time. But Dolan did things Dolans way, and frankly I'm not to found of "Dolans" way. That being said MDA got a raw deal, but I relies we gotta move on. And also I hate Meloball, MDA's teams were fun to watch.

MDA's team fun to watch ?
4 yrs $24 mil eh ?

Sounds like losing was real fun here to watch as knickerbocker fan

Hmmmmm its strange how much MDA was loved here
but MDA didnt love NY city

He hasn't done squat as far as Town appearances where its all fan based communications

Yet the massives addictives here (so call knick fans) LOVE MDA here

* Dont get it
Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it


We were in cap SUPER HELL when he got here. We no draft picks and no money him and Walsh cleaned all that up then got dumped. Who was showing who some love???

YOu are taling about Walsh who had a flawed plan but was competent. His biggest mistake was trying to make the hiring of D'Antoni work instead of admitting it was a mistake. Walsh did his fair share of trading Knicks picks while he was here. This years pick went to HOuston along with the 8th pick in the draft that D'Ant wouldn't play and Jeffries. That pick was almost a lottery pick because D'Antoni's teams record was so bad. Pining away for a team that was 2 games over .500 for half a season during a coaches tenure where long losing streaks were the norm doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I thought the Knicks gave up too much for Melo but I never thought the right coach or philsophy was in place while D'Ant was in ny.
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5/22/2012  10:43 PM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I am not sure why we are still talking about MDA. The man is gone. He is no longer a part of the Knicks. What's done is done. I don't like or hate him. I am totally indifferent to him now that he's just a part of the past. I am not sure why we (the forum) or some are still hung up on him?

I think its because MDA and Walsh turned nothing and to.something, and a lot of people on here was witnessing what MDA was trying to do here. If he had an owner that backed him, and not pull the rug from what MDA and Walsh was trying to do, then we could've had something special for a long time. But Dolan did things Dolans way, and frankly I'm not to found of "Dolans" way. That being said MDA got a raw deal, but I relies we gotta move on. And also I hate Meloball, MDA's teams were fun to watch.

MDA's team fun to watch ?
4 yrs $24 mil eh ?

Sounds like losing was real fun here to watch as knickerbocker fan

Hmmmmm its strange how much MDA was loved here
but MDA didnt love NY city

He hasn't done squat as far as Town appearances where its all fan based communications

Yet the massives addictives here (so call knick fans) LOVE MDA here

* Dont get it
Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it


We were in cap SUPER HELL when he got here. We no draft picks and no money him and Walsh cleaned all that up then got dumped. Who was showing who some love???

That Cap hell you talk about
agreed !

But nearly 2 yrs ago!

Walsh before force retirement cleaned it up...& MDA was here 1- 1.5 yrs after cap hell

No one is fully blaming MDA or it isnt a single GM or player, coach fault

I am NewYorker

I have problem with Quitters

Sure Melo coulda done beter,
same for lame Amare who HID %150 his 100million dollar butt behind MELO + J.LIN + MDA

But
as bad poor poor unusual horrific scorer year Melo Anthony had
he never hid from microphones. Stood up in Knicks loses, wins and plights

and even when MDA got pressed sabatoge it
was Melo Anthony "NOT AMARE" whom states he/we as Knick club had Knick Coach MDA back,
only then did the quiet Amare say he had MDA back too! Same Amare hippocratical whom says
he NEVER played D' under Mike, cause Mike dont play D'. Criticized MDA for it but praised MDA

You know why Amare praised MDA ? Cause MDA could care less whether Amare Stoudemire & his $100mil self
played NO DEFENSE at all in his Knick tenure which was fine with Knick coach.

Another point ?
when it was time to support Melo Anthony "Killings" in media NY Press ALL wrong with Knick land cause
Melo wanted a part time 'Post game' in the paint, Neither Mike D'Antoni NOR Amare Stoudemire gave
remarks of confidence to support Anthony killing's by NY press and NBA world.

So when it was time, after Mike D'Antoni personally 'bl-ew' The Boston Celtics game in beantown < 18sec left
refusing to foul Paul Pierce OR take ball out of Pierce's hand, then Knicks Last MDA slide began. Coach was finished then!

The Coach Quiting on my team
is unforgivable.

I Can take & Respect MDA for finishing the season if Knicks even failed playoffs
system or not.

Mike can come out & speak on article he had to leave but he quit.
Melo Anthony was suppose to be recipient of failure & D'Antoni leaving Boat titanic, knicks failing making playoffs

Well it didnt happen!

MDA flipped the 'bird' not at Owner /GM or Dolan
MDA flipped the bird at loyal Knick fans.

I'd take that notion to the grave & no-body will ever convince me otherwise he didnt quit on NY city most best franchise 'knicks'.

Quitter.

He'd do same thing same way 100 times again in NY.
And folks like this man eh & wanna show some love Eh ?

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5/22/2012  11:09 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I am not sure why we are still talking about MDA. The man is gone. He is no longer a part of the Knicks. What's done is done. I don't like or hate him. I am totally indifferent to him now that he's just a part of the past. I am not sure why we (the forum) or some are still hung up on him?

I think its because MDA and Walsh turned nothing and to.something, and a lot of people on here was witnessing what MDA was trying to do here. If he had an owner that backed him, and not pull the rug from what MDA and Walsh was trying to do, then we could've had something special for a long time. But Dolan did things Dolans way, and frankly I'm not to found of "Dolans" way. That being said MDA got a raw deal, but I relies we gotta move on. And also I hate Meloball, MDA's teams were fun to watch.

MDA's team fun to watch ?
4 yrs $24 mil eh ?

Sounds like losing was real fun here to watch as knickerbocker fan

Hmmmmm its strange how much MDA was loved here
but MDA didnt love NY city

He hasn't done squat as far as Town appearances where its all fan based communications

Yet the massives addictives here (so call knick fans) LOVE MDA here

* Dont get it
Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it


We were in cap SUPER HELL when he got here. We no draft picks and no money him and Walsh cleaned all that up then got dumped. Who was showing who some love???

That Cap hell you talk about
agreed !

But nearly 2 yrs ago!

Walsh before force retirement cleaned it up...& MDA was here 1- 1.5 yrs after cap hell

No one is fully blaming MDA or it isnt a single GM or player, coach fault

I am NewYorker

I have problem with Quitters

Sure Melo coulda done beter,
same for lame Amare who HID %150 his 100million dollar butt behind MELO + J.LIN + MDA

But
as bad poor poor unusual horrific scorer year Melo Anthony had
he never hid from microphones. Stood up in Knicks loses, wins and plights

and even when MDA got pressed sabatoge it
was Melo Anthony "NOT AMARE" whom states he/we as Knick club had Knick Coach MDA back,
only then did the quiet Amare say he had MDA back too! Same Amare hippocratical whom says
he NEVER played D' under Mike, cause Mike dont play D'. Criticized MDA for it but praised MDA

You know why Amare praised MDA ? Cause MDA could care less whether Amare Stoudemire & his $100mil self
played NO DEFENSE at all in his Knick tenure which was fine with Knick coach.

Another point ?
when it was time to support Melo Anthony "Killings" in media NY Press ALL wrong with Knick land cause
Melo wanted a part time 'Post game' in the paint, Neither Mike D'Antoni NOR Amare Stoudemire gave
remarks of confidence to support Anthony killing's by NY press and NBA world.

So when it was time, after Mike D'Antoni personally 'bl-ew' The Boston Celtics game in beantown < 18sec left
refusing to foul Paul Pierce OR take ball out of Pierce's hand, then Knicks Last MDA slide began. Coach was finished then!

The Coach Quiting on my team
is unforgivable.

I Can take & Respect MDA for finishing the season if Knicks even failed playoffs
system or not.

Mike can come out & speak on article he had to leave but he quit.
Melo Anthony was suppose to be recipient of failure & D'Antoni leaving Boat titanic, knicks failing making playoffs

Well it didnt happen!

MDA flipped the 'bird' not at Owner /GM or Dolan
MDA flipped the bird at loyal Knick fans.

I'd take that notion to the grave & no-body will ever convince me otherwise he didnt quit on NY city most best franchise 'knicks'.

Quitter.

He'd do same thing same way 100 times again in NY.
And folks like this man eh & wanna show some love Eh ?


Dude its the owners that the coaches can't work for. JVG did the same thing and he loves the Knicks, is he a quitter???? The franchise went straight to Hell after he left. As long as Dolan is running things, Knicks will be mediocre at best!
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5/22/2012  11:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/22/2012  11:40 PM
People keep talking about trading the players, replacing the coaches (if you want to win a championship) when the real solution is: Trade the owner!
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5/22/2012  11:45 PM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I am not sure why we are still talking about MDA. The man is gone. He is no longer a part of the Knicks. What's done is done. I don't like or hate him. I am totally indifferent to him now that he's just a part of the past. I am not sure why we (the forum) or some are still hung up on him?

I think its because MDA and Walsh turned nothing and to.something, and a lot of people on here was witnessing what MDA was trying to do here. If he had an owner that backed him, and not pull the rug from what MDA and Walsh was trying to do, then we could've had something special for a long time. But Dolan did things Dolans way, and frankly I'm not to found of "Dolans" way. That being said MDA got a raw deal, but I relies we gotta move on. And also I hate Meloball, MDA's teams were fun to watch.

MDA's team fun to watch ?
4 yrs $24 mil eh ?

Sounds like losing was real fun here to watch as knickerbocker fan

Hmmmmm its strange how much MDA was loved here
but MDA didnt love NY city

He hasn't done squat as far as Town appearances where its all fan based communications

Yet the massives addictives here (so call knick fans) LOVE MDA here

* Dont get it
Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it


We were in cap SUPER HELL when he got here. We no draft picks and no money him and Walsh cleaned all that up then got dumped. Who was showing who some love???

That Cap hell you talk about
agreed !

But nearly 2 yrs ago!

Walsh before force retirement cleaned it up...& MDA was here 1- 1.5 yrs after cap hell

No one is fully blaming MDA or it isnt a single GM or player, coach fault

I am NewYorker

I have problem with Quitters

Sure Melo coulda done beter,
same for lame Amare who HID %150 his 100million dollar butt behind MELO + J.LIN + MDA

But
as bad poor poor unusual horrific scorer year Melo Anthony had
he never hid from microphones. Stood up in Knicks loses, wins and plights

and even when MDA got pressed sabatoge it
was Melo Anthony "NOT AMARE" whom states he/we as Knick club had Knick Coach MDA back,
only then did the quiet Amare say he had MDA back too! Same Amare hippocratical whom says
he NEVER played D' under Mike, cause Mike dont play D'. Criticized MDA for it but praised MDA

You know why Amare praised MDA ? Cause MDA could care less whether Amare Stoudemire & his $100mil self
played NO DEFENSE at all in his Knick tenure which was fine with Knick coach.

Another point ?
when it was time to support Melo Anthony "Killings" in media NY Press ALL wrong with Knick land cause
Melo wanted a part time 'Post game' in the paint, Neither Mike D'Antoni NOR Amare Stoudemire gave
remarks of confidence to support Anthony killing's by NY press and NBA world.

So when it was time, after Mike D'Antoni personally 'bl-ew' The Boston Celtics game in beantown < 18sec left
refusing to foul Paul Pierce OR take ball out of Pierce's hand, then Knicks Last MDA slide began. Coach was finished then!

The Coach Quiting on my team
is unforgivable.

I Can take & Respect MDA for finishing the season if Knicks even failed playoffs
system or not.

Mike can come out & speak on article he had to leave but he quit.
Melo Anthony was suppose to be recipient of failure & D'Antoni leaving Boat titanic, knicks failing making playoffs

Well it didnt happen!

MDA flipped the 'bird' not at Owner /GM or Dolan
MDA flipped the bird at loyal Knick fans.

I'd take that notion to the grave & no-body will ever convince me otherwise he didnt quit on NY city most best franchise 'knicks'.

Quitter.

He'd do same thing same way 100 times again in NY.
And folks like this man eh & wanna show some love Eh ?


Dude its the owners that the coaches can't work for. JVG did the same thing and he loves the Knicks, is he a quitter???? The franchise went straight to Hell after he left. As long as Dolan is running things, Knicks will be mediocre at best!

you're right! about JVG whom left NY with winning pct. record

however I am not fool enough to not recognize Dolan is alot of problems for our Knick Franchise

Fact of matter is,
MDA took no or very little responsibility around here and it'd
be lots better if D'Antoni never took on NY media & fans with Mike getting quite upset often for 'boos'
each time or each yr Knick MDA efforts was resulting in blow-out losses to worst NBA teams in league on your own Gym court.

Not every single season was Knicks roster that bad & don't for 1 sec didnt think some of yrs MDA had selections or say so
in either few draft picks or trades to improve Knicks over time.

Sure the Melo/Billups/Renaldo From Denv. for Gallo/Felton/Chandler /Mozgov trades hurt a bit

you're talking likeable players but lets get real

Neither Gallo OR Chandler, Felton are TRADE busters.
What has each won in college or pros ?

Only thing I hated Dolan for is getting involved where NY Walsh woulda given up less & got same deal done

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5/23/2012  12:02 AM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
blackisblack wrote:Honestly, I am not sure why we are still talking about MDA. The man is gone. He is no longer a part of the Knicks. What's done is done. I don't like or hate him. I am totally indifferent to him now that he's just a part of the past. I am not sure why we (the forum) or some are still hung up on him?

I think its because MDA and Walsh turned nothing and to.something, and a lot of people on here was witnessing what MDA was trying to do here. If he had an owner that backed him, and not pull the rug from what MDA and Walsh was trying to do, then we could've had something special for a long time. But Dolan did things Dolans way, and frankly I'm not to found of "Dolans" way. That being said MDA got a raw deal, but I relies we gotta move on. And also I hate Meloball, MDA's teams were fun to watch.

MDA's team fun to watch ?
4 yrs $24 mil eh ?

Sounds like losing was real fun here to watch as knickerbocker fan

Hmmmmm its strange how much MDA was loved here
but MDA didnt love NY city

He hasn't done squat as far as Town appearances where its all fan based communications

Yet the massives addictives here (so call knick fans) LOVE MDA here

* Dont get it
Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it

Dont get it


We were in cap SUPER HELL when he got here. We no draft picks and no money him and Walsh cleaned all that up then got dumped. Who was showing who some love???

That Cap hell you talk about
agreed !

But nearly 2 yrs ago!

Walsh before force retirement cleaned it up...& MDA was here 1- 1.5 yrs after cap hell

No one is fully blaming MDA or it isnt a single GM or player, coach fault

I am NewYorker

I have problem with Quitters

Sure Melo coulda done beter,
same for lame Amare who HID %150 his 100million dollar butt behind MELO + J.LIN + MDA

But
as bad poor poor unusual horrific scorer year Melo Anthony had
he never hid from microphones. Stood up in Knicks loses, wins and plights

and even when MDA got pressed sabatoge it
was Melo Anthony "NOT AMARE" whom states he/we as Knick club had Knick Coach MDA back,
only then did the quiet Amare say he had MDA back too! Same Amare hippocratical whom says
he NEVER played D' under Mike, cause Mike dont play D'. Criticized MDA for it but praised MDA

You know why Amare praised MDA ? Cause MDA could care less whether Amare Stoudemire & his $100mil self
played NO DEFENSE at all in his Knick tenure which was fine with Knick coach.

Another point ?
when it was time to support Melo Anthony "Killings" in media NY Press ALL wrong with Knick land cause
Melo wanted a part time 'Post game' in the paint, Neither Mike D'Antoni NOR Amare Stoudemire gave
remarks of confidence to support Anthony killing's by NY press and NBA world.

So when it was time, after Mike D'Antoni personally 'bl-ew' The Boston Celtics game in beantown < 18sec left
refusing to foul Paul Pierce OR take ball out of Pierce's hand, then Knicks Last MDA slide began. Coach was finished then!

The Coach Quiting on my team
is unforgivable.

I Can take & Respect MDA for finishing the season if Knicks even failed playoffs
system or not.

Mike can come out & speak on article he had to leave but he quit.
Melo Anthony was suppose to be recipient of failure & D'Antoni leaving Boat titanic, knicks failing making playoffs

Well it didnt happen!

MDA flipped the 'bird' not at Owner /GM or Dolan
MDA flipped the bird at loyal Knick fans.

I'd take that notion to the grave & no-body will ever convince me otherwise he didnt quit on NY city most best franchise 'knicks'.

Quitter.

He'd do same thing same way 100 times again in NY.
And folks like this man eh & wanna show some love Eh ?


Dude its the owners that the coaches can't work for. JVG did the same thing and he loves the Knicks, is he a quitter???? The franchise went straight to Hell after he left. As long as Dolan is running things, Knicks will be mediocre at best!

Dolan isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so you better start praying to your god..

We would have some success if we could stay together for more then 4 months at a time..

ES
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5/23/2012  12:30 AM
MDA with Nash, STAT Marion and a team capable of playing Team Oriented ball, NOT THE BEST ROSTER IN THE LEAGUE, went to the WCF's in the toughest Conference in the league.

MDA with Felton, STAT and a team full of young raw talent had a winning record and if not for the Melo trade drama they might have had an even better record.

MDA with Lin, Tyson and a group of game young role players goes on an incredible run playing DEFENSE and team oriented ball.

The only times he had teams that fit his style he was successful. The guy is a system coach and that has it's flaws, but if you get him you KNOW that he's a system coach and you MUST get him a decent PG and team oriented players. They don't have to be All Stars for him to get something out of them.

This year we finally saw him with a defensive Center and not just STAT who is an awful defender to anchor a team and we see that using the EXACT SAME defensive system it worked much better. Woody didn't come to change the system, cuz he uses the EXACT SAME SYSTEM. People think there was a huge difference in the two but the real difference was Tyson and Shump. Take those 2 away and this is still a bad defensive team.

MDA will coach again and he'll be successful if his GM and owner support him and give him what he needs to succeed. It's not rocket science.

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5/25/2012  12:01 AM
nixluva wrote:MDA with Nash, STAT Marion and a team capable of playing Team Oriented ball, NOT THE BEST ROSTER IN THE LEAGUE, went to the WCF's in the toughest Conference in the league.

MDA with Felton, STAT and a team full of young raw talent had a winning record and if not for the Melo trade drama they might have had an even better record.

MDA with Lin, Tyson and a group of game young role players goes on an incredible run playing DEFENSE and team oriented ball.

The only times he had teams that fit his style he was successful. The guy is a system coach and that has it's flaws, but if you get him you KNOW that he's a system coach and you MUST get him a decent PG and team oriented players. They don't have to be All Stars for him to get something out of them.

This year we finally saw him with a defensive Center and not just STAT who is an awful defender to anchor a team and we see that using the EXACT SAME defensive system it worked much better. Woody didn't come to change the system, cuz he uses the EXACT SAME SYSTEM. People think there was a huge difference in the two but the real difference was Tyson and Shump. Take those 2 away and this is still a bad defensive team.

MDA will coach again and he'll be successful if his GM and owner support him and give him what he needs to succeed. It's not rocket science.


Yep
Give MDA DWade, Dwight, D.Rose, Lebron and Durant we'd all find some system to be successful too!

Its not rocket science,
give it a break

This un-dying every living every second love for Mike D'Antoni is like a stale soap opera.
Whether he gets his next NBA job of 'Perfection mix' of GMs, coaches or HIS Players like you like to say

Fact of matter this man MDA Suc_ked in New York City specifically NY Knickerbockers basketball business.

If LBrown, D.Chaney, Lenny and whomever got run out of here too Su_cked even if no direct fault of all of any
of these coaches then Mike D'Antoni deserves some similar mention here cause he did absolutely nothing! in NY

You can harp and bring up stats and Phoenix Sun team
and 22-18 Knick records with Felton or his casts all you want,

You can also praise his systems which no one writes a better book on Ultimate Knicks than nixluva.

You know what too ? I'd bet my skimpy paycheck if MDA ever got a chance with a legit PG, role players, a good
non interfering GM/owner, and all the shooters you love in his system I'd bet my check MDA Aint winning a thing!
You can call success whatever you'd like to spin, I Call success like most a Sports Championship title.

MDA in your OR my lifetimes aint winning no NBA TITLE here unless He has whom I mentioned, Durant, LBJ, Dwade,
the whole nba cream of the crop talent & that may not get it done in D'Antoni so call 'perfect system' nonsense.

Real Knick fans are aware the long list of bad Knick coaches may be short. MDA is on that short list of ill coaching.

*Fact not fiction ..brother

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5/25/2012  2:37 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:
nixluva wrote:MDA with Nash, STAT Marion and a team capable of playing Team Oriented ball, NOT THE BEST ROSTER IN THE LEAGUE, went to the WCF's in the toughest Conference in the league.

MDA with Felton, STAT and a team full of young raw talent had a winning record and if not for the Melo trade drama they might have had an even better record.

MDA with Lin, Tyson and a group of game young role players goes on an incredible run playing DEFENSE and team oriented ball.

The only times he had teams that fit his style he was successful. The guy is a system coach and that has it's flaws, but if you get him you KNOW that he's a system coach and you MUST get him a decent PG and team oriented players. They don't have to be All Stars for him to get something out of them.

This year we finally saw him with a defensive Center and not just STAT who is an awful defender to anchor a team and we see that using the EXACT SAME defensive system it worked much better. Woody didn't come to change the system, cuz he uses the EXACT SAME SYSTEM. People think there was a huge difference in the two but the real difference was Tyson and Shump. Take those 2 away and this is still a bad defensive team.

MDA will coach again and he'll be successful if his GM and owner support him and give him what he needs to succeed. It's not rocket science.


Yep
Give MDA DWade, Dwight, D.Rose, Lebron and Durant we'd all find some system to be successful too!

Its not rocket science,
give it a break

This un-dying every living every second love for Mike D'Antoni is like a stale soap opera.
Whether he gets his next NBA job of 'Perfection mix' of GMs, coaches or HIS Players like you like to say

Fact of matter this man MDA Suc_ked in New York City specifically NY Knickerbockers basketball business.

If LBrown, D.Chaney, Lenny and whomever got run out of here too Su_cked even if no direct fault of all of any
of these coaches then Mike D'Antoni deserves some similar mention here cause he did absolutely nothing! in NY

You can harp and bring up stats and Phoenix Sun team
and 22-18 Knick records with Felton or his casts all you want,

You can also praise his systems which no one writes a better book on Ultimate Knicks than nixluva.

You know what too ? I'd bet my skimpy paycheck if MDA ever got a chance with a legit PG, role players, a good
non interfering GM/owner, and all the shooters you love in his system I'd bet my check MDA Aint winning a thing!
You can call success whatever you'd like to spin, I Call success like most a Sports Championship title.

MDA in your OR my lifetimes aint winning no NBA TITLE here unless He has whom I mentioned, Durant, LBJ, Dwade,
the whole nba cream of the crop talent & that may not get it done in D'Antoni so call 'perfect system' nonsense.

Real Knick fans are aware the long list of bad Knick coaches may be short. MDA is on that short list of ill coaching.

*Fact not fiction ..brother

What you're saying isn't that big of a diss considering only ONE F'N COACH A YEAR wins a title!!!

There's a really short list of coaches with titles since 1980. In 32 years you've got 12 guys:

1. Phil Jackson won 11
2. Pat Riley won 5
3. Greg Popovich won 4
4. Chuck Daly won 2
5. Rudy Tomjanovich won 2
6. K.C. Jones won 2
7. Larry Brown won 1
8. Rick Carlisle won 1
9. Doc Rivers won 1
10. Bill Fitch won 1
11. Billy Cunningham won 1
12. Paul Westhead won 1

What's the point of kicking dirt on a coach that had the most efficient offense year after year and got his teams to the WCF's despite not having the best roster in the league??? You think that's a knock on MDA that he won a lot of games and took his team to the brink of making the finals, even in a year when he had Boris Diaw as his Center??? Think about that. Mike D'Antoni's team with Boris Diaw at Center was one of the final 4 teams playing and had a shot to get to the finals. Explain to me how that's not a great coaching job?

You and others continue to tell this outright LIE that MDA needs a team full of Superstars, but in truth he's coached most of his career with a roster that was not considered the best in the League and not the best in the West either.

Think about this. As great as Nash is, does he win 2 MVP's if he doesn't play for Mike D'Antoni???
No one was talking about Nash as a possible MVP before he played for MDA. NO ONE!!! You think that's a small thing? A coach is there to help maximize his players abilities and MDA did that to a high degree. No he's not perfect, but he's a heck of a lot better than you and all the other MDA haters give him credit for.

You know so much and yet, Mike Krzyzewski respects MDA. Popovich Respects MDA and a whole host of other coaches do as well. These are some of the best coaches in BB and you think you know more than they do???

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5/25/2012  2:55 AM
nixluva wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
nixluva wrote:MDA with Nash, STAT Marion and a team capable of playing Team Oriented ball, NOT THE BEST ROSTER IN THE LEAGUE, went to the WCF's in the toughest Conference in the league.

MDA with Felton, STAT and a team full of young raw talent had a winning record and if not for the Melo trade drama they might have had an even better record.

MDA with Lin, Tyson and a group of game young role players goes on an incredible run playing DEFENSE and team oriented ball.

The only times he had teams that fit his style he was successful. The guy is a system coach and that has it's flaws, but if you get him you KNOW that he's a system coach and you MUST get him a decent PG and team oriented players. They don't have to be All Stars for him to get something out of them.

This year we finally saw him with a defensive Center and not just STAT who is an awful defender to anchor a team and we see that using the EXACT SAME defensive system it worked much better. Woody didn't come to change the system, cuz he uses the EXACT SAME SYSTEM. People think there was a huge difference in the two but the real difference was Tyson and Shump. Take those 2 away and this is still a bad defensive team.

MDA will coach again and he'll be successful if his GM and owner support him and give him what he needs to succeed. It's not rocket science.


Yep
Give MDA DWade, Dwight, D.Rose, Lebron and Durant we'd all find some system to be successful too!

Its not rocket science,
give it a break

This un-dying every living every second love for Mike D'Antoni is like a stale soap opera.
Whether he gets his next NBA job of 'Perfection mix' of GMs, coaches or HIS Players like you like to say

Fact of matter this man MDA Suc_ked in New York City specifically NY Knickerbockers basketball business.

If LBrown, D.Chaney, Lenny and whomever got run out of here too Su_cked even if no direct fault of all of any
of these coaches then Mike D'Antoni deserves some similar mention here cause he did absolutely nothing! in NY

You can harp and bring up stats and Phoenix Sun team
and 22-18 Knick records with Felton or his casts all you want,

You can also praise his systems which no one writes a better book on Ultimate Knicks than nixluva.

You know what too ? I'd bet my skimpy paycheck if MDA ever got a chance with a legit PG, role players, a good
non interfering GM/owner, and all the shooters you love in his system I'd bet my check MDA Aint winning a thing!
You can call success whatever you'd like to spin, I Call success like most a Sports Championship title.

MDA in your OR my lifetimes aint winning no NBA TITLE here unless He has whom I mentioned, Durant, LBJ, Dwade,
the whole nba cream of the crop talent & that may not get it done in D'Antoni so call 'perfect system' nonsense.

Real Knick fans are aware the long list of bad Knick coaches may be short. MDA is on that short list of ill coaching.

*Fact not fiction ..brother

What you're saying isn't that big of a diss considering only ONE F'N COACH A YEAR wins a title!!!

There's a really short list of coaches with titles since 1980. In 32 years you've got 12 guys:

1. Phil Jackson won 11
2. Pat Riley won 5
3. Greg Popovich won 4
4. Chuck Daly won 2
5. Rudy Tomjanovich won 2
6. K.C. Jones won 2
7. Larry Brown won 1
8. Rick Carlisle won 1
9. Doc Rivers won 1
10. Bill Fitch won 1
11. Billy Cunningham won 1
12. Paul Westhead won 1

What's the point of kicking dirt on a coach that had the most efficient offense year after year and got his teams to the WCF's despite not having the best roster in the league??? You think that's a knock on MDA that he won a lot of games and took his team to the brink of making the finals, even in a year when he had Boris Diaw as his Center??? Think about that. Mike D'Antoni's team with Boris Diaw at Center was one of the final 4 teams playing and had a shot to get to the finals. Explain to me how that's not a great coaching job?

You and others continue to tell this outright LIE that MDA needs a team full of Superstars, but in truth he's coached most of his career with a roster that was not considered the best in the League and not the best in the West either.

Think about this. As great as Nash is, does he win 2 MVP's if he doesn't play for Mike D'Antoni???
No one was talking about Nash as a possible MVP before he played for MDA. NO ONE!!! You think that's a small thing? A coach is there to help maximize his players abilities and MDA did that to a high degree. No he's not perfect, but he's a heck of a lot better than you and all the other MDA haters give him credit for.

You know so much and yet, Mike Krzyzewski respects MDA. Popovich Respects MDA and a whole host of other coaches do as well. These are some of the best coaches in BB and you think you know more than they do???

I am with you NIX - I hate these LYIN SACKS OF SH1T!!!!!!! LIARS!!!!!!!

Even these aforementioned coaches believe that MDA is a really solid ASSISTANT OFFENSIVE COACH!!

Don't let the LIARS tell you otherwise.

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5/25/2012  9:42 AM
nixluva wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
nixluva wrote:MDA with Nash, STAT Marion and a team capable of playing Team Oriented ball, NOT THE BEST ROSTER IN THE LEAGUE, went to the WCF's in the toughest Conference in the league.

MDA with Felton, STAT and a team full of young raw talent had a winning record and if not for the Melo trade drama they might have had an even better record.

MDA with Lin, Tyson and a group of game young role players goes on an incredible run playing DEFENSE and team oriented ball.

The only times he had teams that fit his style he was successful. The guy is a system coach and that has it's flaws, but if you get him you KNOW that he's a system coach and you MUST get him a decent PG and team oriented players. They don't have to be All Stars for him to get something out of them.

This year we finally saw him with a defensive Center and not just STAT who is an awful defender to anchor a team and we see that using the EXACT SAME defensive system it worked much better. Woody didn't come to change the system, cuz he uses the EXACT SAME SYSTEM. People think there was a huge difference in the two but the real difference was Tyson and Shump. Take those 2 away and this is still a bad defensive team.

MDA will coach again and he'll be successful if his GM and owner support him and give him what he needs to succeed. It's not rocket science.


Yep
Give MDA DWade, Dwight, D.Rose, Lebron and Durant we'd all find some system to be successful too!

Its not rocket science,
give it a break

This un-dying every living every second love for Mike D'Antoni is like a stale soap opera.
Whether he gets his next NBA job of 'Perfection mix' of GMs, coaches or HIS Players like you like to say

Fact of matter this man MDA Suc_ked in New York City specifically NY Knickerbockers basketball business.

If LBrown, D.Chaney, Lenny and whomever got run out of here too Su_cked even if no direct fault of all of any
of these coaches then Mike D'Antoni deserves some similar mention here cause he did absolutely nothing! in NY

You can harp and bring up stats and Phoenix Sun team
and 22-18 Knick records with Felton or his casts all you want,

You can also praise his systems which no one writes a better book on Ultimate Knicks than nixluva.

You know what too ? I'd bet my skimpy paycheck if MDA ever got a chance with a legit PG, role players, a good
non interfering GM/owner, and all the shooters you love in his system I'd bet my check MDA Aint winning a thing!
You can call success whatever you'd like to spin, I Call success like most a Sports Championship title.

MDA in your OR my lifetimes aint winning no NBA TITLE here unless He has whom I mentioned, Durant, LBJ, Dwade,
the whole nba cream of the crop talent & that may not get it done in D'Antoni so call 'perfect system' nonsense.

Real Knick fans are aware the long list of bad Knick coaches may be short. MDA is on that short list of ill coaching.

*Fact not fiction ..brother

What you're saying isn't that big of a diss considering only ONE F'N COACH A YEAR wins a title!!!

There's a really short list of coaches with titles since 1980. In 32 years you've got 12 guys:

1. Phil Jackson won 11
2. Pat Riley won 5
3. Greg Popovich won 4
4. Chuck Daly won 2
5. Rudy Tomjanovich won 2
6. K.C. Jones won 2
7. Larry Brown won 1
8. Rick Carlisle won 1
9. Doc Rivers won 1
10. Bill Fitch won 1
11. Billy Cunningham won 1
12. Paul Westhead won 1

What's the point of kicking dirt on a coach that had the most efficient offense year after year and got his teams to the WCF's despite not having the best roster in the league??? You think that's a knock on MDA that he won a lot of games and took his team to the brink of making the finals, even in a year when he had Boris Diaw as his Center??? Think about that. Mike D'Antoni's team with Boris Diaw at Center was one of the final 4 teams playing and had a shot to get to the finals. Explain to me how that's not a great coaching job?

You and others continue to tell this outright LIE that MDA needs a team full of Superstars, but in truth he's coached most of his career with a roster that was not considered the best in the League and not the best in the West either.

Think about this. As great as Nash is, does he win 2 MVP's if he doesn't play for Mike D'Antoni???
No one was talking about Nash as a possible MVP before he played for MDA. NO ONE!!! You think that's a small thing? A coach is there to help maximize his players abilities and MDA did that to a high degree. No he's not perfect, but he's a heck of a lot better than you and all the other MDA haters give him credit for.

You know so much and yet, Mike Krzyzewski respects MDA. Popovich Respects MDA and a whole host of other coaches do as well. These are some of the best coaches in BB and you think you know more than they do???

*bravo

Look no hard feelings nixluva
to be honest I come to admire your efforts on speaking how you feel about MDA, everyone here myself too entitle to good/fair opinions as knicks fan

So in speaking of the support you shown for MDA, well

There is something to be said for that


*cool

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5/25/2012  9:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/25/2012  9:56 AM

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5/25/2012  3:42 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:

Yep I'd think Landy & Lin would appreciate and relate to the 'Brokeback' guys on & off court!

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