NUPE wrote:I got to laugh at some of the posts in here. Woodson took over a massively underachieving team and finished the season 18-6 with only 1 home loss despite numerous injuries. Further, during this same stretch the Knicks were the best defensive team in the league. Woodson has earned the job. Obviously, Phil would be great but I have no complaints about stability and a great defense that Woodson would bring.

I also laugh at people claiming Woodson relies too much on iso as if Kobe and Michael Jordan were not getting massive amounts of iso and regularly shooting over double and triple teams. SMH!

I have to laugh at people that use Kobe and Jordan in the same sentence as StarMelo.

mrKnickShot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:I am feeling increasingly crummy-er about this. Did they or didnt he reach out to Pjax? I like Woodson but at the back of my mind there are worries about his ability to coach offense and also the nagging notion of Woody + Grunfeld = Return of the snake. If I so muc as even smell that two bit POS manipulating things behind the scenes, it will be the last thing I do as Knicks fan.

I am sure the threat of losing you (or me) really scares them

I do feel queasy about this as well. I think we will find out in a few months that PJax turned them down in a secret meeting

I never believed there was any chance of him coming here anyway. Anyway, who needs him when we have Woody?

mrKnickShot wrote:

loweyecue wrote:I am feeling increasingly crummy-er about this. Did they or didnt he reach out to Pjax? I like Woodson but at the back of my mind there are worries about his ability to coach offense and also the nagging notion of Woody + Grunfeld = Return of the snake. If I so muc as even smell that two bit POS manipulating things behind the scenes, it will be the last thing I do as Knicks fan.

I am sure the threat of losing you (or me) really scares them

I do feel queasy about this as well. I think we will find out in a few months that PJax turned them down in a secret meeting

If Phil Jackson comes back I'd rather see him on the opponent's bench. When I see Phil I still see red.

NUPE wrote:They are all iso oriented players on the offensive side of the ball. Phil Jackson has a history of allowing his top scorers to iso. So, complaining about Woodson iso while yearning for Phil Jackson is kind of odd to me. Phil is the better coach but you are still gonna get iso melo in large amounts with either coach.

for me there is a huge difference between iso ball that Phil played and what Woodson has been able to demonstrate, but it's also probably not fair to compare the 2 directly because the players each have had are on different levels.

Pure iso ball is necessary to have on any team, especially for closing out games - even more so in the playoffs. It's what happens over the long haul of the season and how other players on the team are integrated and how dominate - often times to the detriment of others on the team - that iso ball is favored.

martin wrote:

NUPE wrote:They are all iso oriented players on the offensive side of the ball. Phil Jackson has a history of allowing his top scorers to iso. So, complaining about Woodson iso while yearning for Phil Jackson is kind of odd to me. Phil is the better coach but you are still gonna get iso melo in large amounts with either coach.

for me there is a huge difference between iso ball that Phil played and what Woodson has been able to demonstrate, but it's also probably not fair to compare the 2 directly because the players each have had are on different levels.

Pure iso ball is necessary to have on any team, especially for closing out games - even more so in the playoffs. It's what happens over the long haul of the season and how other players on the team are integrated and how dominate - often times to the detriment of others on the team - that iso ball is favored.

Martin, how do you feel about hiring woodson? And do you think Melo is just Marbury 2.0?

CashMoney wrote:

loweyecue wrote:It's funny. There are two types of people supporting Woody here. One group has insulated themselves thinking Woody is beeter than Pringles so that means we don't need to look further. The other group thinks Phil can't do it, or won't or they don't like him because he coached the bulls so we need tokeep Woody. Between people disqualifying Prngles and people disqualifying PJax everyone is convinced Woody is the man for the job because he won 15 regualr season games??!!?!?!? LOL

WTF are these people smoking????

18 regular season games and 1 playoff game!

You beat me

Loweyecue, everyone? I see many wanting PJax here.

loweyecue wrote:It's funny. There are two types of people supporting Woody here. One group has insulated themselves thinking Woody is beeter than Pringles so that means we don't need to look further. The other group thinks Phil can't do it, or won't or they don't like him because he coached the bulls so we need tokeep Woody. Between people disqualifying Prngles and people disqualifying PJax everyone is convinced Woody is the man for the job because he won 15 regualr season games??!!?!?!? LOL

WTF are these people smoking????

I like his rotations, the emphasis on defense, his demeanor on and off the court, the constant communication with players, the respect they seem to have for him, and the goatee.

But mostly the goatee.