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mrKnickShot
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4/22/2012  5:59 PM
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Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe I missed it but I didn't think the ESPN announcers said that Woodson made the comment in reference only to the 6-1 start. 6 - 1 aint bad, though. So I'm not sure why the distinction matters.

Stop it man! Just admit that you fumbled. We all have weak moments that make us stronger.


I may have fumbled, the ESPN announcers may have been unclear, or you guys may be wrong about which stretch of games the comment refers to. I have no idea which is correct but it's a distinction without a difference since the team played great under Woodson using MDA's offensive scheme anyway.

eeeehhhh whatever man.

What was your original point?

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4/22/2012  5:59 PM
babyKnicks wrote:Just not sure why you are so up in arms...we're you watching the season? Do you even remember when melo got hurt? Groin, wrist, an assortment. And do you remember who the Knicjs beat during linsanity? Then got embarrassed by the heat and nets?

Then during a real stretch against real teams a collection of back to back to bad losses?

Now we have been playing tough teams, in a playoff win or go home atmosphre and never losing back to back.

Betting playoff teams, gelling for the playoffs.

It was the coach and an assortment of injuries, but in the end, coaches coach and players play and if players aren't playing the better coaches coach better.

Woodson is coaching better. Mda wasn't coaching during games, and the playoffs are about coaching in games...adjustments, timeouts, rotations based on match ups, not favoritism.

STOP. You want to compare the Melo MDA had with the Melo Woody has had in his brief time coaching? It's not even close. I can't believe the way you guys are able to ignore the facts. Just look at the stats!!! Look at the game logs!!! I can back up every single point I make in irrefutable detail. The 10 game stretch when Melo came back the DUDE dogged it!!!!! HE EVEN ADMITTED HE WAS PLAYING HARDER after MDA resigned!!!

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4/22/2012  6:03 PM
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babyKnicks wrote:Just not sure why you are so up in arms...we're you watching the season? Do you even remember when melo got hurt? Groin, wrist, an assortment. And do you remember who the Knicjs beat during linsanity? Then got embarrassed by the heat and nets?

Then during a real stretch against real teams a collection of back to back to bad losses?

Now we have been playing tough teams, in a playoff win or go home atmosphre and never losing back to back.

Betting playoff teams, gelling for the playoffs.

It was the coach and an assortment of injuries, but in the end, coaches coach and players play and if players aren't playing the better coaches coach better.

Woodson is coaching better. Mda wasn't coaching during games, and the playoffs are about coaching in games...adjustments, timeouts, rotations based on match ups, not favoritism.

STOP. You want to compare the Melo MDA had with the Melo Woody has had in his brief time coaching? It's not even close. I can't believe the way you guys are able to ignore the facts. Just look at the stats!!! Look at the game logs!!! I can back up every single point I make in irrefutable detail. The 10 game stretch when Melo came back the DUDE dogged it!!!!! HE EVEN ADMITTED HE WAS PLAYING HARDER after MDA resigned!!!

Nix it doesnt matter at this point we are in the playoffs so we should just concentrate on that
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4/22/2012  6:04 PM
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Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe I missed it but I didn't think the ESPN announcers said that Woodson made the comment in reference only to the 6-1 start. 6 - 1 aint bad, though. So I'm not sure why the distinction matters.

Stop it man! Just admit that you fumbled. We all have weak moments that make us stronger.

YOU STOP IT!!! You have some nerve asking Bonn to admit something when you just try to get away with way worse crap. You have been ducking my statements backed up with quotes and stats all this season.

NO YOU STOP IT!! NO YOU! Uh uh - yuh huh! Geez and you said you starting following the knicks in 1973. And you still act like your an adolescent.

I respect Bonn and don't call him names nor do I throw hissy fits when he disagrees with me. He is a gentleman as well and we have many respectful disputes that we agree to disagree on. You however keep screaming at anyone who disagrees with you or heaven forbid slanders MDA. We can say or feel whatever we want - its our right and if you don't like it too bad but enough with the "Liars" "LIARS" and hissy fits.

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4/22/2012  6:07 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
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Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe I missed it but I didn't think the ESPN announcers said that Woodson made the comment in reference only to the 6-1 start. 6 - 1 aint bad, though. So I'm not sure why the distinction matters.

Stop it man! Just admit that you fumbled. We all have weak moments that make us stronger.

YOU STOP IT!!! You have some nerve asking Bonn to admit something when you just try to get away with way worse crap. You have been ducking my statements backed up with quotes and stats all this season.

NO YOU STOP IT!! NO YOU! Uh uh - yuh huh! Geez and you said you starting following the knicks in 1973. And you still act like your an adolescent.

I respect Bonn and don't call him names nor do I throw hissy fits when he disagrees with me. He is a gentleman as well and we have many respectful disputes that we agree to disagree on. You however keep screaming at anyone who disagrees with you or heaven forbid slanders MDA. We can say or feel whatever we want - its our right and if you don't like it too bad but enough with the "Liars" "LIARS" and hissy fits.

You aren't here to see how Me and my family are enjoying the games. This argument is separate and apart from how the team is playing. I don't like LIES. The idea that now we should just let guys like you piss on MDA every time the team wins and tell lies if garbage. If you had something to refute the points I made then you would post the facts. I've got plenty more to support what i've been saying. I'm not gonna let you or anyone else lie without any response.

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4/22/2012  6:10 PM
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
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Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe I missed it but I didn't think the ESPN announcers said that Woodson made the comment in reference only to the 6-1 start. 6 - 1 aint bad, though. So I'm not sure why the distinction matters.

Stop it man! Just admit that you fumbled. We all have weak moments that make us stronger.

YOU STOP IT!!! You have some nerve asking Bonn to admit something when you just try to get away with way worse crap. You have been ducking my statements backed up with quotes and stats all this season.

NO YOU STOP IT!! NO YOU! Uh uh - yuh huh! Geez and you said you starting following the knicks in 1973. And you still act like your an adolescent.

I respect Bonn and don't call him names nor do I throw hissy fits when he disagrees with me. He is a gentleman as well and we have many respectful disputes that we agree to disagree on. You however keep screaming at anyone who disagrees with you or heaven forbid slanders MDA. We can say or feel whatever we want - its our right and if you don't like it too bad but enough with the "Liars" "LIARS" and hissy fits.

You aren't here to see how Me and my family are enjoying the games. This argument is separate and apart from how the team is playing. I don't like LIES. The idea that now we should just let guys like you piss on MDA every time the team wins and tell lies if garbage. If you had something to refute the points I made then you would post the facts. I've got plenty more to support what i've been saying. I'm not gonna let you or anyone else lie without any response.

Nixluva MDA is gone so it doesnt matter anymore. look im not the biggest melo fan either but he stepped up when we needed him to so now its time to worry about other things like how we can give the heat all they can handle come playoff time
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4/22/2012  6:11 PM
I'm a huge melo fan
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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4/22/2012  6:16 PM
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe I missed it but I didn't think the ESPN announcers said that Woodson made the comment in reference only to the 6-1 start. 6 - 1 aint bad, though. So I'm not sure why the distinction matters.

Stop it man! Just admit that you fumbled. We all have weak moments that make us stronger.

YOU STOP IT!!! You have some nerve asking Bonn to admit something when you just try to get away with way worse crap. You have been ducking my statements backed up with quotes and stats all this season.

NO YOU STOP IT!! NO YOU! Uh uh - yuh huh! Geez and you said you starting following the knicks in 1973. And you still act like your an adolescent.

I respect Bonn and don't call him names nor do I throw hissy fits when he disagrees with me. He is a gentleman as well and we have many respectful disputes that we agree to disagree on. You however keep screaming at anyone who disagrees with you or heaven forbid slanders MDA. We can say or feel whatever we want - its our right and if you don't like it too bad but enough with the "Liars" "LIARS" and hissy fits.

You aren't here to see how Me and my family are enjoying the games. This argument is separate and apart from how the team is playing. I don't like LIES. The idea that now we should just let guys like you piss on MDA every time the team wins and tell lies if garbage. If you had something to refute the points I made then you would post the facts. I've got plenty more to support what i've been saying. I'm not gonna let you or anyone else lie without any response.

None of us owe you any stats for any opinions that we may have. If you don't like if you can shove it you know where. You can also choose to ignore postsers that you don't agree with. Realize that 80 percent of these posts are just to see you lose control. Not me of course but I suspect most others are for that reason - and it looks they are really really enjoying it to. Keep calling people names and throwing tantrums it just keeps people posting it over and over again.

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IrishKnickFan wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe I missed it but I didn't think the ESPN announcers said that Woodson made the comment in reference only to the 6-1 start. 6 - 1 aint bad, though. So I'm not sure why the distinction matters.

Stop it man! Just admit that you fumbled. We all have weak moments that make us stronger.

YOU STOP IT!!! You have some nerve asking Bonn to admit something when you just try to get away with way worse crap. You have been ducking my statements backed up with quotes and stats all this season.

NO YOU STOP IT!! NO YOU! Uh uh - yuh huh! Geez and you said you starting following the knicks in 1973. And you still act like your an adolescent.

I respect Bonn and don't call him names nor do I throw hissy fits when he disagrees with me. He is a gentleman as well and we have many respectful disputes that we agree to disagree on. You however keep screaming at anyone who disagrees with you or heaven forbid slanders MDA. We can say or feel whatever we want - its our right and if you don't like it too bad but enough with the "Liars" "LIARS" and hissy fits.

You aren't here to see how Me and my family are enjoying the games. This argument is separate and apart from how the team is playing. I don't like LIES. The idea that now we should just let guys like you piss on MDA every time the team wins and tell lies if garbage. If you had something to refute the points I made then you would post the facts. I've got plenty more to support what i've been saying. I'm not gonna let you or anyone else lie without any response.

Nixluva MDA is gone so it doesnt matter anymore. look im not the biggest melo fan either but he stepped up when we needed him to so now its time to worry about other things like how we can give the heat all they can handle come playoff time

I understand what you're saying. I enjoy the games. I've been to the games here in Georgia. It's not about that. It's not really about MDA. DUDE has been gone, but guys around here are making statements that aren't true. My posts are here for everyone to see in this thread and they tell the truth. I've posted stats, quotes and I have more. They want me to stop, then tell them to stop lying! I'd be happy to move on, but I keep seeing these guys bring back old threads about MDA and how he stunk, but they don't mention what Melo did and how he played and acted, especially in the 10 games after he came back from his time off. I'm glad he's finally playing like a superstar!!! That doesn't erase what he didn't do for most of the season. This team isn't a 3 or 4 seed, we're 7th. That didn't have to be the case if Melo had really given 100% like he is now.

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4/22/2012  6:29 PM
nixluva wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Maybe I missed it but I didn't think the ESPN announcers said that Woodson made the comment in reference only to the 6-1 start. 6 - 1 aint bad, though. So I'm not sure why the distinction matters.

Stop it man! Just admit that you fumbled. We all have weak moments that make us stronger.

YOU STOP IT!!! You have some nerve asking Bonn to admit something when you just try to get away with way worse crap. You have been ducking my statements backed up with quotes and stats all this season.

NO YOU STOP IT!! NO YOU! Uh uh - yuh huh! Geez and you said you starting following the knicks in 1973. And you still act like your an adolescent.

I respect Bonn and don't call him names nor do I throw hissy fits when he disagrees with me. He is a gentleman as well and we have many respectful disputes that we agree to disagree on. You however keep screaming at anyone who disagrees with you or heaven forbid slanders MDA. We can say or feel whatever we want - its our right and if you don't like it too bad but enough with the "Liars" "LIARS" and hissy fits.

You aren't here to see how Me and my family are enjoying the games. This argument is separate and apart from how the team is playing. I don't like LIES. The idea that now we should just let guys like you piss on MDA every time the team wins and tell lies if garbage. If you had something to refute the points I made then you would post the facts. I've got plenty more to support what i've been saying. I'm not gonna let you or anyone else lie without any response.

Nixluva MDA is gone so it doesnt matter anymore. look im not the biggest melo fan either but he stepped up when we needed him to so now its time to worry about other things like how we can give the heat all they can handle come playoff time

I understand what you're saying. I enjoy the games. I've been to the games here in Georgia. It's not about that. It's not really about MDA. DUDE has been gone, but guys around here are making statements that aren't true. My posts are here for everyone to see in this thread and they tell the truth. I've posted stats, quotes and I have more. They want me to stop, then tell them to stop lying! I'd be happy to move on, but I keep seeing these guys bring back old threads about MDA and how he stunk, but they don't mention what Melo did and how he played and acted, especially in the 10 games after he came back from his time off. I'm glad he's finally playing like a superstar!!! That doesn't erase what he didn't do for most of the season. This team isn't a 3 or 4 seed, we're 7th. That didn't have to be the case if Melo had really given 100% like he is now.

Nixluva if you dont agree with someone just do like mrknickshot said ignore them and move on. We are all knick fans in here so yes we should have discussions but there is no need to fight. Thats just my opinion
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4/22/2012  6:45 PM
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nixluva wrote:Stop making excuses mrKnickShot! You're the 1st one to start challenging someone's manhood for not responding to your posts. Here you have clear statistical facts and all you can do is make lame jokes. I don't post nonsense. If I say something I back it up. That's what you're supposed to do.

When I said that Woody had started going back to more of MDA plays so that the role players could get more involved you joked, but then Woody stated exactly what I had been saying the team should do. There's nothing wrong with how Woody has handled things, but let's not ignore the truth when it's clear.

Woody is having the same issues with STAT's defense that MDA had for all those years. Now people can see for themselves that it wasn't because MDA didn't care about D. This guy was his STARTING CENTER!!! How good could any team be with STAT as the anchor of the defense??? Now we know it wasn't MDA all that time. If Woody has a hard time fixing STAT then you can imagine that it has been a problem for a long time. Woody has been here working with the players on D all year. Minus STAT the D has been good all year too. Like i've said around here for years, you need defensive talent too. That's what Tyson and Shump prove.

Yet he finds a way to win through real coaching. Most teams have a weak link on defense. It's all about adjusting to hide them. Woodson makes adjustments..MDA says Let's go. It's clear Woodson has done a way better job then MDA and it's not because melo was "doggin it".

It's simple, Woody has the cooperation of the teams best player. You think that doesn't make a difference? Just be honest. To say otherwise is to deny the truth and conventional knowledge of how teams win.

I agree but it's the coaches job to get that cooperation by making their best player comfortable which dantoni did a terrible job of doing. This isn't brand new. Happened with lakers and magic Johnson back in the day. Dantoni in the end did a terrible job of putting the pieces together

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4/22/2012  6:59 PM
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nixluva wrote:
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nixluva wrote:Stop making excuses mrKnickShot! You're the 1st one to start challenging someone's manhood for not responding to your posts. Here you have clear statistical facts and all you can do is make lame jokes. I don't post nonsense. If I say something I back it up. That's what you're supposed to do.

When I said that Woody had started going back to more of MDA plays so that the role players could get more involved you joked, but then Woody stated exactly what I had been saying the team should do. There's nothing wrong with how Woody has handled things, but let's not ignore the truth when it's clear.

Woody is having the same issues with STAT's defense that MDA had for all those years. Now people can see for themselves that it wasn't because MDA didn't care about D. This guy was his STARTING CENTER!!! How good could any team be with STAT as the anchor of the defense??? Now we know it wasn't MDA all that time. If Woody has a hard time fixing STAT then you can imagine that it has been a problem for a long time. Woody has been here working with the players on D all year. Minus STAT the D has been good all year too. Like i've said around here for years, you need defensive talent too. That's what Tyson and Shump prove.

Yet he finds a way to win through real coaching. Most teams have a weak link on defense. It's all about adjusting to hide them. Woodson makes adjustments..MDA says Let's go. It's clear Woodson has done a way better job then MDA and it's not because melo was "doggin it".

It's simple, Woody has the cooperation of the teams best player. You think that doesn't make a difference? Just be honest. To say otherwise is to deny the truth and conventional knowledge of how teams win.

I agree but it's the coaches job to get that cooperation by making their best player comfortable which dantoni did a terrible job of doing. This isn't brand new. Happened with lakers and magic Johnson back in the day. Dantoni in the end did a terrible job of putting the pieces together

Magic didn't dog it and let his team lose! How does any of these stuff excuse what Melo did? All this talk about MDA which is fine except that the record this year doesn't really support many of the claims. The team was good on D most of the year an they got even better during Linsanity when STAT and Melo were out and we didn't yet have JR or Baron. The team was depleted and still was playing great defense. It was only during that 10 game span leading up to MDA resigning that the D suffered. This is what they were doing with an undermanned team:

Long a sore spot for Mike D’Antoni, his team’s defensive consistency (or lack thereof) had previously been an impediment to their success. But recently, New York’s stingy defense has been essential to their winning ways.

New York is currently holding its opponents to 93.9 points per game on 44.5% shooting after allowing 105.7 points on 47.2% shooting last season. This type of terrific turnaround is rarely seen in the NBA from one year to the next.

In early January, the Knicks actually held three straight opponents under 90 points. Prior to that stretch, the last time New York had held even two straight opponents under 90 points was all the way back in December of 2005. In fact, during that streak, the Knicks kept those teams under 88 points. As a point of comparison, in NY’s three previous seasons with D’Antoni at the helm, they held an opponent under 88 a TOTAL of nine times. That’s three games in a row, versus nine times total over the span of three complete seasons (246 games).

The other issue about Melo not getting shots is also bogus. Aside from the 10 game stretch after he came back he was getting plenty of shots. 21 per game in January vs. 23 under Woody. The difference now is that Melo is finally hitting shots and he's fully committed to defense and playing team ball. Woody has done a great job and i'm pulling for the team. This is a separate issue.

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4/22/2012  7:07 PM
nixluva wrote:
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nixluva wrote:
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nixluva wrote:Stop making excuses mrKnickShot! You're the 1st one to start challenging someone's manhood for not responding to your posts. Here you have clear statistical facts and all you can do is make lame jokes. I don't post nonsense. If I say something I back it up. That's what you're supposed to do.

When I said that Woody had started going back to more of MDA plays so that the role players could get more involved you joked, but then Woody stated exactly what I had been saying the team should do. There's nothing wrong with how Woody has handled things, but let's not ignore the truth when it's clear.

Woody is having the same issues with STAT's defense that MDA had for all those years. Now people can see for themselves that it wasn't because MDA didn't care about D. This guy was his STARTING CENTER!!! How good could any team be with STAT as the anchor of the defense??? Now we know it wasn't MDA all that time. If Woody has a hard time fixing STAT then you can imagine that it has been a problem for a long time. Woody has been here working with the players on D all year. Minus STAT the D has been good all year too. Like i've said around here for years, you need defensive talent too. That's what Tyson and Shump prove.

Yet he finds a way to win through real coaching. Most teams have a weak link on defense. It's all about adjusting to hide them. Woodson makes adjustments..MDA says Let's go. It's clear Woodson has done a way better job then MDA and it's not because melo was "doggin it".

It's simple, Woody has the cooperation of the teams best player. You think that doesn't make a difference? Just be honest. To say otherwise is to deny the truth and conventional knowledge of how teams win.

I agree but it's the coaches job to get that cooperation by making their best player comfortable which dantoni did a terrible job of doing. This isn't brand new. Happened with lakers and magic Johnson back in the day. Dantoni in the end did a terrible job of putting the pieces together

Magic didn't dog it and let his team lose! How does any of these stuff excuse what Melo did? All this talk about MDA which is fine except that the record this year doesn't really support many of the claims. The team was good on D most of the year an they got even better during Linsanity when STAT and Melo were out and we didn't yet have JR or Baron. The team was depleted and still was playing great defense. It was only during that 10 game span leading up to MDA resigning that the D suffered. This is what they were doing with an undermanned team:

Long a sore spot for Mike D’Antoni, his team’s defensive consistency (or lack thereof) had previously been an impediment to their success. But recently, New York’s stingy defense has been essential to their winning ways.

New York is currently holding its opponents to 93.9 points per game on 44.5% shooting after allowing 105.7 points on 47.2% shooting last season. This type of terrific turnaround is rarely seen in the NBA from one year to the next.

In early January, the Knicks actually held three straight opponents under 90 points. Prior to that stretch, the last time New York had held even two straight opponents under 90 points was all the way back in December of 2005. In fact, during that streak, the Knicks kept those teams under 88 points. As a point of comparison, in NY’s three previous seasons with D’Antoni at the helm, they held an opponent under 88 a TOTAL of nine times. That’s three games in a row, versus nine times total over the span of three complete seasons (246 games).

The other issue about Melo not getting shots is also bogus. Aside from the 10 game stretch after he came back he was getting plenty of shots. 21 per game in January vs. 23 under Woody. The difference now is that Melo is finally hitting shots and he's fully committed to defense and playing team ball. Woody has done a great job and i'm pulling for the team. This is a separate issue.

Melo did not dog it. He was injured for most the season and played with injury. Just because u repeat it doesn't make it true. Him saying the team and himself are playing harder for Woodson doesn't equal dogging. It means Woodson demands harder play. We all know about dantoni laid back coaxing style with weak practices and no shoot around before game. Let's talk facts since u are big on facts.

More facts. Yes the Knicks where better on defense all year but only after the hiring of who? Yes good ole Woodson to cover the terrible job dantoni was doing defensively in his tenure as coach. The defense got an even bigger jump once he got all the keys to the operation.

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4/22/2012  7:14 PM
We're all Knicks fans; we all want the team to do well. So please, for the love o Jaysis, can we forget about the fact that we all had different views on the Melo trade, and the various Lin/Melo/stat issues over the season.

It's just become really feckin boring to read the same ish every day.

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4/22/2012  7:35 PM
babyKnicks wrote:I'm a huge melo fan

You should try to incorporate walking more into your day, instead of driving every where fat boy

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4/22/2012  7:46 PM
markvmc wrote:We're all Knicks fans; we all want the team to do well. So please, for the love o Jaysis, can we forget about the fact that we all had different views on the Melo trade, and the various Lin/Melo/stat issues over the season.

It's just become really feckin boring to read the same ish every day.

Hater

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4/22/2012  8:18 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:
nixluva wrote:
FoeDiddy wrote:
nixluva wrote:Stop making excuses mrKnickShot! You're the 1st one to start challenging someone's manhood for not responding to your posts. Here you have clear statistical facts and all you can do is make lame jokes. I don't post nonsense. If I say something I back it up. That's what you're supposed to do.

When I said that Woody had started going back to more of MDA plays so that the role players could get more involved you joked, but then Woody stated exactly what I had been saying the team should do. There's nothing wrong with how Woody has handled things, but let's not ignore the truth when it's clear.

Woody is having the same issues with STAT's defense that MDA had for all those years. Now people can see for themselves that it wasn't because MDA didn't care about D. This guy was his STARTING CENTER!!! How good could any team be with STAT as the anchor of the defense??? Now we know it wasn't MDA all that time. If Woody has a hard time fixing STAT then you can imagine that it has been a problem for a long time. Woody has been here working with the players on D all year. Minus STAT the D has been good all year too. Like i've said around here for years, you need defensive talent too. That's what Tyson and Shump prove.

Yet he finds a way to win through real coaching. Most teams have a weak link on defense. It's all about adjusting to hide them. Woodson makes adjustments..MDA says Let's go. It's clear Woodson has done a way better job then MDA and it's not because melo was "doggin it".

It's simple, Woody has the cooperation of the teams best player. You think that doesn't make a difference? Just be honest. To say otherwise is to deny the truth and conventional knowledge of how teams win.

I agree but it's the coaches job to get that cooperation by making their best player comfortable which dantoni did a terrible job of doing. This isn't brand new. Happened with lakers and magic Johnson back in the day. Dantoni in the end did a terrible job of putting the pieces together

Totally agree with this.
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Member: #1797

4/22/2012  10:22 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
markvmc wrote:We're all Knicks fans; we all want the team to do well. So please, for the love o Jaysis, can we forget about the fact that we all had different views on the Melo trade, and the various Lin/Melo/stat issues over the season.

It's just become really feckin boring to read the same ish every day.

Hater

Kudo's to Woodson for getting the Knicks to the playoffs....

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