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If only D'Antoni's head wasn't so hard he would still be Coach of the Knicks. Hears why!
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knicks1248
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4/21/2012  10:45 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:MDA is getting his *full* salary, can sit on the beach, and no longer has to work for Dolan. I'm sure he's not unhappy.

you quit your job and your employer still has to pay you..boy would I like his agent..But some how I don't think thats accurate

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4/21/2012  10:57 AM
Based on the record this team had under Mike D'antoni, the lack of cohesion, and the unwillingness to play defense on a nightly basis, it only leads me to think that he himself quit on his team.
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4/21/2012  1:08 PM
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D'Antoni had a player like Carmelo and for years he was lighting up Denver. Melo is a star. In this league now the players are different and you have to treat each player different. Lin got his break and the players was doing very well and Lin caught teams off guard. It whould have been a matter of time before he got shut down without Melo ball. From the begining D'Antonio insisted on the team playing fast ball and he knew that was not Anthony's game. When Linsanity caught on everyone was out to destroy Melo. Instead of D'Antoni playing to Anthony's strenth he dogged Lin into the ground. This was Melo's team from the begining and D'Antoni tried to sell Melo a bag of goods that was not him. D'antoni thought it was all about him. He could care less about defense. He had guys shooting 3s that couldn't hit the side of a barn or house 5 feet away. It was this that did him in. Was it so hard for him to bend and let Melo do his thing and hold him accountable on defense?? Now he is gone and looking for another place to play fast ball that will never get him a championship.

This guy D'Antoni won't ever bend or adjust
he's a REBEL Without a CAUSE is why NBA Jobs gonna be difficult for him at least for awhile since coaches hired are getting younger

Like a say a Rebel without a cause and too stubborn for his own good & success possibilities


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4/21/2012  1:23 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Based on the record this team had under Mike D'antoni, the lack of cohesion, and the unwillingness to play defense on a nightly basis, it only leads me to think that he himself quit on his team.

Yeah he did quit but the players quit first..obviously fustrated..i'm sure will read a nice little interview at some point before next season hand here every thing thatwas going through MDA's mind.

And maybe Bonns right, he's still under contract and has to keep a tight lip until it's expired..but just like Sloan his exit had a lot to do with the super star player and the lack of support from management..bottom line..

Anthony probably thinking, to many role players with the green light
Mda thinking just the opposite.

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4/21/2012  2:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2012  2:50 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Based on the record this team had under Mike D'antoni, the lack of cohesion, and the unwillingness to play defense on a nightly basis, it only leads me to think that he himself quit on his team.

Yeah he did quit but the players quit first..obviously fustrated..i'm sure will read a nice little interview at some point before next season hand here every thing thatwas going through MDA's mind.

And maybe Bonns right, he's still under contract and has to keep a tight lip until it's expired..but just like Sloan his exit had a lot to do with the super star player and the lack of support from management..bottom line..

Anthony probably thinking, to many role players with the green light
Mda thinking just the opposite.

NBA is the league of Stars.
They come out an entertain people with great hoops.
Team game is an afterthought and only needed if NBA club has no Star(s).
Some coaches are good for team ball and others to maximize entertainment provided by Star players.
MDA became out of place after Melo and Chandler trades. His exit was a mater of time.
Lin fluctuation just extended the agony a bit.
Get over it. Its last year snow.

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4/22/2012  12:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/22/2012  12:20 PM
arkrud wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Based on the record this team had under Mike D'antoni, the lack of cohesion, and the unwillingness to play defense on a nightly basis, it only leads me to think that he himself quit on his team.

Yeah he did quit but the players quit first..obviously fustrated..i'm sure will read a nice little interview at some point before next season hand here every thing thatwas going through MDA's mind.

And maybe Bonns right, he's still under contract and has to keep a tight lip until it's expired..but just like Sloan his exit had a lot to do with the super star player and the lack of support from management..bottom line..

Anthony probably thinking, to many role players with the green light
Mda thinking just the opposite.

NBA is the league of Stars.
They come out an entertain people with great hoops.
Team game is an afterthought and only needed if NBA club has no Star(s).
Some coaches are good for team ball and others to maximize entertainment provided by Star players.
MDA became out of place after Melo and Chandler trades. His exit was a mater of time.
Lin fluctuation just extended the agony a bit.
Get over it. Its last year snow.

Right ..correct get over it

The MDA era long over, its unfortunately a players league and I believe when Magic Johnson played his era ran league too!
But difference then those teams of many superstars/stars produced more championship titles in 80s, 90s variety of teams ruled.

Folks forget the great success of Coach D'Antoni primarily with Phoenix Suns team lead by Steve Nash had the type of stars and
role bench suppport players whom adapted easily perhaps due to stars such as Steve Nash making transition withing MDA systems
flawless. Thus Mike D'Antoni and/or his coaching help had less work to do to mesh winning formulas.. until NBA playoffs EXPOSE
D'Antoni system plus I'd cut MDA tiny slack for running up into era of HOU Rockers & LA Lakers and SA Spurs, all multi-title
champions in mid-90s through Y2K

Problem for Mike is regardless of stubborn & arrogant talent based stars in league after Y2K years YOU NEED TO ADJUST TOO Mike!

I dont say its easy to coddle and cuddle every talented NBAer regardless of STAR or very skilled players but you'd think D'Antoni
would have least made effort publicly to say he worked with NBA players rather than getting reputations it's ALL 100% players
flaws which fails D'Antoni hoops to be successful. Its never 100% coach or 100% players, when you don't win!


Fact also proves another poster whom say D'Antoni quit
BINGO ! Correct 150% !!!

MDA not only quit on Knickerbocker franchise he quit and checked out real good on NewYork City and loving fan base which proves
what I say all along Mike D'Antoni was NEVER EVER EVER a NewYork kind of guy, never understood it never was in a NY State of Mind
if so he would have finished the season despite the woes working with MELO Anthony.

What quit MDA done was far far worst than any poor season from Anthony or whatever worst Melo done here.
Melo Anthony never ever ever quit on this 2011/2012 NBA season and goes to show when MDA was coach back on March 14 and
Good fans seen no playoff hopes in sight what a difference a month made eh ?

Bless you MDA for getting the heck out of here since You never wanted us (NewYork & fans)
and DJ as a fan NYer Knickerbocker man I don't want you either !

Have a great $24mil. life coach mike & thanks for the nil effort!

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4/22/2012  12:24 PM
Furthermore on coaches whom adjust ALL the TIME in our NBA league

Coaching its a two-way working relationship and as Knick former good coach JVG says "If you have a star/superstar" player and The coach
does not make effort to establish a GOOD work relationship with that player, you're heading down road for problems & wont be successful.

You look at the then younger JVG whom was experienced old' skool coach whom learned from his Knicks success to adjust when it
was rumored JVG would have issues coaching, never did after leaving NY.

Coaches like JVG as well as even Pat 'firm' Riley, the castaway Larry Brown have all adjusted themselves even minorly JVGundy when he led re-building ROCKETs to respectively NBA west contender succeses and as Larry Brown whom if he didn't work out his issues with Rasheem Wallace & rest of Piston squad e.g. Chauncey Billups, the Detroit Pistons would've never made 2 NBA Finals appearances and capturing 1 NBA title which
eluded Larry Brown in his entire career.

Back to Michael D'Antoni whenever he re-joins this NBA, this era 2012 if he does'nt bend or adjust he'll FAIL WORST than he did in NY
I agree with Bonn, MDA is on some beach enjoy his $$$24 mil

...he gets to deserve it if you wanna look at as consolation for being a coach here with many rosters changes.
All Knicks losing was not entirely his fault but he has a part in their Non-success since he was main guy here
with all comings and goings of players, you need to work with what you got.

Nobody did it ever WORST than Michael D'Antoni

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4/22/2012  1:59 PM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

D'Antoni had a player like Carmelo and for years he was lighting up Denver. Melo is a star. In this league now the players are different and you have to treat each player different. Lin got his break and the players was doing very well and Lin caught teams off guard. It whould have been a matter of time before he got shut down without Melo ball. From the begining D'Antonio insisted on the team playing fast ball and he knew that was not Anthony's game. When Linsanity caught on everyone was out to destroy Melo. Instead of D'Antoni playing to Anthony's strenth he dogged Lin into the ground. This was Melo's team from the begining and D'Antoni tried to sell Melo a bag of goods that was not him. D'antoni thought it was all about him. He could care less about defense. He had guys shooting 3s that couldn't hit the side of a barn or house 5 feet away. It was this that did him in. Was it so hard for him to bend and let Melo do his thing and hold him accountable on defense?? Now he is gone and looking for another place to play fast ball that will never get him a championship.

Dude, I agree with you, but I think it was clear that D'antoni was an egomaniac. Yes, Marbury and Nate had serious issues with him, but I have never seen a coach handle players the way that he does. He put guys in his dog house, and never communicate directly with problem players. Instead, he goes to the media and trash guys. I am not an apologist for Marbury, but I thought D'antoni did Knicks fans a disservice by benching Marbury in his last year with the Knicks before the season started. The man clearly showed the he didn't care. I understand that you have problems with player, but say something to the guy that you are having issues with. I know this sports analogy is like comparing oranges and apples, but both fruit can be eaten. I think D'antoni should've taken a page out of Tom Coughlin's book. He take problem players head on. Too me, Shockey and Marbury were just as bad. Communication is the key to becoming a good coach that is why I like Mike Woodson. He isn't afraid to get in anyone's face.

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4/22/2012  2:30 PM
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:He was not "hard headed"

Melo QUIT on him. Melo even said so himself.

That's it. End of story. Why does this need to be discussed?

That quote was completely out of context....Dont think he meant it that way....

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4/22/2012  2:31 PM
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:He was not "hard headed"

Melo QUIT on him. Melo even said so himself.

That's it. End of story. Why does this need to be discussed?

That quote was completely out of context....Dont think he meant it that way....


Do either of you have the quote? I'm not sure what a good context for quitting on the team would be though.
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4/22/2012  2:32 PM
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:He was not "hard headed"

Melo QUIT on him. Melo even said so himself.

That's it. End of story. Why does this need to be discussed?

That quote was completely out of context....Dont think he meant it that way....

He knows that - he was just playing on it.

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4/22/2012  3:47 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:He was not "hard headed"

Melo QUIT on him. Melo even said so himself.

That's it. End of story. Why does this need to be discussed?

That quote was completely out of context....Dont think he meant it that way....

He knows that - he was just playing on it.

You might want to past that info over to Bonn....

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4/22/2012  3:51 PM
Uptown wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:He was not "hard headed"

Melo QUIT on him. Melo even said so himself.

That's it. End of story. Why does this need to be discussed?

That quote was completely out of context....Dont think he meant it that way....

He knows that - he was just playing on it.

You might want to past that info over to Bonn....


Yes, please do
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4/22/2012  3:52 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:He was not "hard headed"

Melo QUIT on him. Melo even said so himself.

That's it. End of story. Why does this need to be discussed?

That quote was completely out of context....Dont think he meant it that way....

He knows that - he was just playing on it.

You might want to past that info over to Bonn....


Yes, please do

No need.

Bonn has a webcrawling filter for his name. Or for anything positive written about Melo.

If only D'Antoni's head wasn't so hard he would still be Coach of the Knicks. Hears why!

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