Anji wrote:I don't know about Lin. You know he wants his bird rights, but the team team is much better if he doesn't take the whole MLE. I think the knicks can get him for 2 yrs 6million. That would leave enough money to talk to Novack about staying too.

And the thing about Odom is the Mavs will likely buy him out for 2.5million, so he'll likely be a free agent. Don't know Odoms market, but may he would sign for the LLE.

It's likely that New York is going to lose JR Smith and Steve Novak from the current roster but should be able to keep everyone else. Baron Davis has another year of Cleveland money so he'll probably come back for the minimum, but New York has bird rights to Fields and rights to Lin.

I've pretty much thrown the MLE away because the Knicks are going to have to use some portion of it to keep Lin under the Gilbert Arenas rule.

In a perfect world, JR Smith picks up his option but if he doesn't I'm comfortable with some combination of Douglas and Fields filling in those backup SG minutes.

knicks1248 wrote:

Rookie wrote:I think our starting line up is set as long as we re-sign Lin. Hopefully we don't need to use the MLE for him and can target a veteran 6th man....Maybe Jason Terry if we can recruit him for the MLE. Smith is under contract unless he opts out, nothing we can do there, but I think he stays. Novak is going to be gone unfortunately unless he takes the veterans minimum....he's a good guy and I like him, but we just don't have the cap flexibility to re-sign him and someone will pay him more then the min. Odom could be a real possibility. Also, Sessions could opt out and we could look at him for the MLE

Novak..gone..novak didn't just learn how to shoot..he's the same player he always has been..but with more min comes a few more touches..thing is now he's on the scouting report heavy..and woodson has not used him like mda did where he's somehow left open a lot more...dont see him getting some big time offer just cause

doesn't have to be a big time offer, just needs to be more then we can offer

VCoug wrote:

Andrew wrote:Unless Lin is willing to take about 1M a year, the Knicks will need to use part (most likely all) of the MLE to sign him. Fields does not require an exception to be signed. Adding a bigger named FA is a pipe dream....unless they accept the min or LLE.

I don't think you're right about Fields. He's only been in the league for two years so we don't have full Bird right, only early Bird rights like with Lin.

Please read: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7583558/nba-how-new-york-knicks-keep-jeremy-lin

Andrew wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Andrew wrote:Unless Lin is willing to take about 1M a year, the Knicks will need to use part (most likely all) of the MLE to sign him. Fields does not require an exception to be signed. Adding a bigger named FA is a pipe dream....unless they accept the min or LLE.

I don't think you're right about Fields. He's only been in the league for two years so we don't have full Bird right, only early Bird rights like with Lin.

Please read: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7583558/nba-how-new-york-knicks-keep-jeremy-lin

Right, we'll use our mid-level exception on Lin, and then if someone offers more than the minimum for Landry we'll have to use our LLE to keep Fields. In all likelihood, we will be using an exception for Fields.

VCoug wrote:

Andrew wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Andrew wrote:Unless Lin is willing to take about 1M a year, the Knicks will need to use part (most likely all) of the MLE to sign him. Fields does not require an exception to be signed. Adding a bigger named FA is a pipe dream....unless they accept the min or LLE.

I don't think you're right about Fields. He's only been in the league for two years so we don't have full Bird right, only early Bird rights like with Lin.

Please read: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7583558/nba-how-new-york-knicks-keep-jeremy-lin

Right, we'll use our mid-level exception on Lin, and then if someone offers more than the minimum for Landry we'll have to use our LLE to keep Fields. In all likelihood, we will be using an exception for Fields.

Vmart wrote:Next year will most likely be:
Melo sf
Amare pf
Chandler c
Shumpert sg
Lin pg
Fields will probably be gone in FA. The Knicks need to add a player like Odoms who can play Pf and sf. Hopefully they can add another pg who is younger. I hope that Smith doesn't come back need a more consistent shooter from SG position. Bring back Jefferies and Novak.

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Totally agree, while Melo at the forth give us tremendous scoring, his rebounding strength as a three are not as strong at the four position, so I think the Knicks should go with that big line up, also it balance the offence a little more as suppose to relying solely on Melo for scoring.

Andrew wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Andrew wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Andrew wrote:Unless Lin is willing to take about 1M a year, the Knicks will need to use part (most likely all) of the MLE to sign him. Fields does not require an exception to be signed. Adding a bigger named FA is a pipe dream....unless they accept the min or LLE.

I don't think you're right about Fields. He's only been in the league for two years so we don't have full Bird right, only early Bird rights like with Lin.

Please read: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7583558/nba-how-new-york-knicks-keep-jeremy-lin

Right, we'll use our mid-level exception on Lin, and then if someone offers more than the minimum for Landry we'll have to use our LLE to keep Fields. In all likelihood, we will be using an exception for Fields.

Oh we'd have to use the LLE on Fields? I didn't realize that in the other thread. That sucks.

I'm pretty sure. If we have to use the MLE on Lin, and we'll almost certainly have to, then the maximum another team can give Landry would be the LLE.

This is from the article:

Landry Fields is also in a similar situation. A second-round pick in 2010, Fields will be a restricted free agent with two years in the league, and it's possible that another team will submit an offer starting at the mid-level in an attempt to lure him away. If they use their mid-level exception to keep Lin in the fold, do they have to waive goodbye to Fields?

Again, fortune is smiling on the Knicks. Lin's Bird clock reset when the Knicks claimed him on waivers, but Fields did not go through a similar process. Since Fields will have been with the Knicks for two seasons, they will hold his Early-Bird rights this summer. As a result, they will be able to use their Early-Bird rights to match any offer another team could present to Fields under the Arenas provision.

So as far as Lin and Fields are concerned, the Knicks are safe. They won't be able to go out and sign a new player with their mid-level exception, so any plans to lure a free agent like Steve Nash to New York are now moot. But the Knicks will be able to keep Lin and Fields safely in the fold. This Linconceivable story can continue its run on Broadway.

See the bolded part. Early bird rights, not LLE.

I know, it's exactly the same as Lin. Both Jeremy Lin and Landry Fields are restricted free agents after this season, and the Knicks have early bird rights for both of them. What early bird rights mean is that other teams cannot offer more than the Knicks to our RFA's. This is also from the article:

The Arenas provision was added to the rulebook in 2005, restricting the offers that teams can make to restricted free agents with one or two years in the league. Under the Arenas provision, the first-year salary in an offer sheet can't exceed the mid-level exception, which ensures that the Knicks will have the means to match any offer that Lin may receive.

I'm for keeping either Melo or Amare on the bench. They don't really co-exist well together. Amare probably works better with Lin because Amare has a better pick and roll game. Melo off the bench is good since he can score without any help and can give Lin and Amare rest and still have scoring in the 2nd unit.