ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Look, not everyone sees everything the same way you do. That doesn't make them wrong or A-Holes or haters. Now OBM is a bit of an extreme case but he has the right to post his opinion as much as the next guy. It's OK to criticize him or other posters but A-Hole with an agenda is not criticism that's just a straight out insult. Do you really need to do that?

Sorry that you feel you have to back posters that root against their own team and players to push their own agenda. Some how that just doesn't make any f&cking sense, especially after one of the biggest(if not) wins of the year.

Sad but true. I can see why it wouldn't make sense to some. But this isn't about one poster it's about the overall tone of the forum recently. Everytime someone criticizes Melo there are a thousand posts ridiculing him for expressing an opinion.

ActionJackson wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Look, not everyone sees everything the same way you do. That doesn't make them wrong or A-Holes or haters. Now OBM is a bit of an extreme case but he has the right to post his opinion as much as the next guy. It's OK to criticize him or other posters but A-Hole with an agenda is not criticism that's just a straight out insult. Do you really need to do that?

Why yes, yes I do. I don't go in on everyone with a divergent point of view but there are a few trolls here that I honestly feel are not real Knick fans & are just here to stir up controversy. So for those select few, I feel it's necessary to skip the niceties of civil decorum & just call them what they are "A-Hole's with an agenda"

Well, I think there's a bunch of people here who are so deeply obsessed with Melo that they don't give a **** about the Knicks either. So the feeling goes both ways. Let the mods weed out the trolls?

ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Look, not everyone sees everything the same way you do. That doesn't make them wrong or A-Holes or haters. Now OBM is a bit of an extreme case but he has the right to post his opinion as much as the next guy. It's OK to criticize him or other posters but A-Hole with an agenda is not criticism that's just a straight out insult. Do you really need to do that?

Sorry that you feel you have to back posters that root against their own team and players to push their own agenda. Some how that just doesn't make any f&cking sense, especially after one of the biggest(if not) wins of the year.

Sad but true. I can see why it wouldn't make sense to some. But this isn't about one poster it's about the overall tone of the forum recently. Everytime someone criticizes Melo there are a thousand posts ridiculing him for expressing an opinion.

That's the thing. People keep focusing on the bad streak of games (which could have been avoided if the coach was flexibile). Melo is balling his heart out for you guys. The team is balling their hearts out. And yet, some refuse to acknowledge it. Some say "too small a sample size". Some say "Knicks are only 2 games above .500". Some say, "Man what I wouldn't give for some Gallinari mayonaise". Just a cesspool of negativity. AND THE KNICKS ARE 11-3 during the Woodson ERA!!! SMFH at all the negativity, especially considering where we came from in a month.

I love the effort, absolutely. But that is not a precondition for unquestioning love and adoration for Melo or any other player. The effort should be there every night we shouldn't have to corona te him for playing like he cares. This what is expected of all professionals. that doesn't mean every criticism is borne out of hatred. We all want this team to win, in our different unique ways.

ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Look, not everyone sees everything the same way you do. That doesn't make them wrong or A-Holes or haters. Now OBM is a bit of an extreme case but he has the right to post his opinion as much as the next guy. It's OK to criticize him or other posters but A-Hole with an agenda is not criticism that's just a straight out insult. Do you really need to do that?

Sorry that you feel you have to back posters that root against their own team and players to push their own agenda. Some how that just doesn't make any f&cking sense, especially after one of the biggest(if not) wins of the year.

Sad but true. I can see why it wouldn't make sense to some. But this isn't about one poster it's about the overall tone of the forum recently. Everytime someone criticizes Melo there are a thousand posts ridiculing him for expressing an opinion.

That's the thing. People keep focusing on the bad streak of games (which could have been avoided if the coach was flexibile). Melo is balling his heart out for you guys. The team is balling their hearts out. And yet, some refuse to acknowledge it. Some say "too small a sample size". Some say "Knicks are only 2 games above .500". Some say, "Man what I wouldn't give for some Gallinari mayonaise". Just a cesspool of negativity. AND THE KNICKS ARE 11-3 during the Woodson ERA!!! SMFH at all the negativity, especially considering where we came from in a month.

I love the effort, absolutely. But that is not a precondition for unquestioning love and adoration for Melo or any other player. The effort should be there every night we shouldn't have to corona te him for playing like he cares. This what is expected of all professionals. that doesn't mean every criticism is borne out of hatred. We all want this team to win, in our different unique ways.

Fair enough. But can we just do the "Eye Test" right now? Melo is locked in. The team is locked in. What is their to criticize? Why bring up the past? You definitely don't want to go there...(3 years no playoffs until a certain player arrives).

ChuckBuck wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Look, not everyone sees everything the same way you do. That doesn't make them wrong or A-Holes or haters. Now OBM is a bit of an extreme case but he has the right to post his opinion as much as the next guy. It's OK to criticize him or other posters but A-Hole with an agenda is not criticism that's just a straight out insult. Do you really need to do that?

Sorry that you feel you have to back posters that root against their own team and players to push their own agenda. Some how that just doesn't make any f&cking sense, especially after one of the biggest(if not) wins of the year.

Sad but true. I can see why it wouldn't make sense to some. But this isn't about one poster it's about the overall tone of the forum recently. Everytime someone criticizes Melo there are a thousand posts ridiculing him for expressing an opinion.

That's the thing. People keep focusing on the bad streak of games (which could have been avoided if the coach was flexibile). Melo is balling his heart out for you guys. The team is balling their hearts out. And yet, some refuse to acknowledge it. Some say "too small a sample size". Some say "Knicks are only 2 games above .500". Some say, "Man what I wouldn't give for some Gallinari mayonaise". Just a cesspool of negativity. AND THE KNICKS ARE 11-3 during the Woodson ERA!!! SMFH at all the negativity, especially considering where we came from in a month.

I love the effort, absolutely. But that is not a precondition for unquestioning love and adoration for Melo or any other player. The effort should be there every night we shouldn't have to corona te him for playing like he cares. This what is expected of all professionals. that doesn't mean every criticism is borne out of hatred. We all want this team to win, in our different unique ways.

Fair enough. But can we just do the "Eye Test" right now? Melo is locked in. The team is locked in. What is their to criticize? Why bring up the past? You definitely don't want to go there...(3 years no playoffs until a certain player arrives).

Chuck you gotta calm down man. Everybody is happy that our team is doing well. Everybody is happy Melo is finally playing like an elite player. I mean i think its cool that you stand by your favorite player but nobody is getting on him we are just happy that the team is doing well

Okay man. Actually bothered that some fans didn't see what most Knicks fans saw yesterday. A great, clutch performance by a star player, when they had to have this win. And then to see comments about "where was this in the beginning of the year". Just annoying. People want to criticize just to criticize I guess.

ActionJackson wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote: I mean lets face it if we saw melo on teh street he would probably spit on us before shaking our hands lol.

Even if that were true, it would probably be because of the incredibly acidic & acrimonious attitude that many fans have developed towards players on their sports teams. We get to cheer or boo for what happens on the court not place demands on them off of it.

It would because he thinks we are MarburyAnd1Crossover

loweyecue wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Look, not everyone sees everything the same way you do. That doesn't make them wrong or A-Holes or haters. Now OBM is a bit of an extreme case but he has the right to post his opinion as much as the next guy. It's OK to criticize him or other posters but A-Hole with an agenda is not criticism that's just a straight out insult. Do you really need to do that?

Why yes, yes I do. I don't go in on everyone with a divergent point of view but there are a few trolls here that I honestly feel are not real Knick fans & are just here to stir up controversy. So for those select few, I feel it's necessary to skip the niceties of civil decorum & just call them what they are "A-Hole's with an agenda"

Well, I think there's a bunch of people here who are so deeply obsessed with Melo that they don't give a **** about the Knicks either. So the feeling goes both ways. Let the mods weed out the trolls?

That makes no sense. I don't know one person who roots for Melo over the good of the team. Not even the newer fans. I've never met a fan like that outside this forum either