tkf wrote:

knick fans are hilarious, they fall so in love with these wannabe star players that they will always shaft the coach..

we got rid of two hall of fame coaches. Brown and wilkens, we fired chaney, another decent coach.. and after getting rid of those guys, how good have the knicks been since then? I can tell you? not good at all.. at what point does ownership say? maybe it is not the coach, maybe we need to stand behind our coach's.... just goes to show how much of a moron dolan is..

To be fair Wilkens was past it when he coached for us- he was the wrong guy to hire, and was only given the job in a last second scramble after word leaked out Chaney was going, and Fratello refused it- he wasn't taking us anywhere, and thats why no one ever hired him after we fired him.

Larry Brown also had to go- choosing a side between him and IT was like chosing a side in the Iran vs Irag war. Brown wanted us to trade for deadly contracts- didnt 3 of the players he was pushing for us to acquire end up with micro fracture surgery? If we had kept and appeased him we would have been in salary cap hell even longer than we were. Larry Brown was a disgrace here with us, he became way too involved in power games with IT, and wanting IT's job, that he didn't give a crap about winning- he deserved to be fired.

Chaney was mediocre at best- pretty much on the same level as our current coach- I thought he was okay, but nothing special.

Our problem isn't so much the choice of coaches or firing coaches, but the fact that our coaches and GM's have rarely been in harmony, and that's what creates all the tension. I think D'Antoni and Walsh was the only time we've had a clear harmonious vision, and 2 years of that were wasted getting under the salary cap, and then one year where we were clicking, only for Dolan to force the Melo trade, leading to us once again having a roster that didn't match the coach.

nixluva wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Now the strong feelings of a new beginning are gone. We are witnessing the regression to the mean.

While I didn't think it was possible for them to continue to play at the extremes of where they had been playing, I do think that it's reasonable to expect that they can play far better than this. They've got a winnable game against Detroit and they MUST win this game. Any setback here could be a catastrophe. However, I do believe they will bounce back.

Still this does expose issues that were there underneath and haven't been addressed. It shows how much of the problem is the players and not so much the coach. This is the point that many of us have tried to make about this teams situation from the get go. It's all too easy to just lay everything on the coach as we have as a franchise and fan base.

Many were so ready to exclaim that Woody had the answers for what ailed the team and too ready to ignore the fact that teams tend to have a burst of energy just from the change itself and not due to anything tactical or inspirational that the coach does. Only time can tell just how real the improvement is or isn't. Despite the wins, the same issues still have been present just beneath the surface. It took just one tactical move to expose it all. This team can't let this spiral. They have to stop it right here tonight.

No matter who is coaching it will always be a wiser choice at this point in time to make Melo and Amare the featured options while having Lin be the 3rd option in a slower pace. Then when Lin gets some more seasoning he can take over the reigns. Plus in playoff basketball the pace slows down drastically.

misterearl wrote:- Public Enemy Number 7

nice one earl. hah.