MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Nalod, and everyone else that is concerned with losing weight, the best way to lose weight is by lifting weights.

false. the correct answer is "eat right"

Moonangie wrote:I swim a mile four days a week.
I ride a mountain bike 2 days a week (or stationary bike if it's nasty out).
When there is adequate snow on the ground, I substitute x/c skiing for swimming (usually 12-15 miles).

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Nalod, and everyone else that is concerned with losing weight, the best way to lose weight is by lifting weights.

Lifting weights is what burns fat, cardio (running) just makes you more hungry, and it doesn't build muscle. You put on muscle, there is less room for the fat, right?

SMH at the wrongness of this post... but to each his own.

It's true that cardio increases appetite, especially swimming. But you got to pick the right foods so you don't add weight. Increase vegetables and legumes, eat whole grains (not white) to reduce bad carbs, and eat lean meats (but not too much). Drink water, lots of it. NEVER drink sugar drinks like soda. Cut way down on fruit juices, too.

But cardio is far more health-promoting than "lifting". Far more.

even as someone who prefers lifting to cardio, this is (obviously) correct

SupremeCommander wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Nalod, and everyone else that is concerned with losing weight, the best way to lose weight is by lifting weights.

false. the correct answer is "eat right"

This is true, to an extent. But lifting heavy things can greatly accelerate fat loss and physical activity is a necessity for a healthy life. If you will be active, it is much better to lift than it is to run like a hamster.

A man that lifts weights will have no problem jumping into a 5k without any training for the 5k, where someone who only runs will only be good at running.

Also, eating right might not be what you think it is.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Moonangie wrote:I swim a mile four days a week.
I ride a mountain bike 2 days a week (or stationary bike if it's nasty out).
When there is adequate snow on the ground, I substitute x/c skiing for swimming (usually 12-15 miles).

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Nalod, and everyone else that is concerned with losing weight, the best way to lose weight is by lifting weights.

Lifting weights is what burns fat, cardio (running) just makes you more hungry, and it doesn't build muscle. You put on muscle, there is less room for the fat, right?

SMH at the wrongness of this post... but to each his own.

It's absolutely not wrong.

The only part where you might have some argument is the last sentence, where I say "put on muscle..less room for fat", but I used that more as a simple idealization to help get the point accross.

It is absolutely NOT wrong that the best way to lose weight is to lift weights.

Cardio IS absolulety the WORST way to attempt to lose weight.

I encourage you to do your own research on this, but tread carefully, there is a lot of misleading stuff out there.

Yes, and clearly you have succumbed to it. Now you are spreading that misinformation farther. Not good, but everyone has to decide for themselves.

But you would be wise to reconsider some of these beliefs you have about health, diet, and fitness.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Look I'm not here to put eyes in your heads. Everyone has to see for themselves.

But you would be wise to reconsider some of these beliefs you have about health, diet, and fitness.

Not sure where you saw me claim to "run" or do anything resembling hamster activities. BTW, I also stretch every day and once in a long while try some yoga.

Lifting is NOT a smart way to lose weight, and it will do very little to improve overall fitness.

It's excellent for only one thing: Strengthening muscle groups. I would advocate for something like P90X for muscle development if that's the main goal. But "feeling fit" because you have well-developed muscles is NOT the same thing as "being fit" on the inside of your body.

Cardio-vascular fitness develops not only your physique but ALSO tones your mental clarity and calms your emotional state. Suffering through the "boring" aspects of cardio helps a person learn focus and discipline, two components of a healthy lifestyle (arguably the MOST IMPORTANT two) that lifting weights utterly ignores.

There is SO much more to healthy living than what Marbs is saying, I hope nobody here follows his advice as gospel, even though he presents it that way. Not meaning to offend, but you are misleading and just plain wrong in the opinions you have offered in this thread.

Moonangie wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Look I'm not here to put eyes in your heads. Everyone has to see for themselves.

But you would be wise to reconsider some of these beliefs you have about health, diet, and fitness.

Not sure where you saw me claim to "run" or do anything resembling hamster activities. BTW, I also stretch every day and once in a long while try some yoga.

Lifting is NOT a smart way to lose weight, and it will do very little to improve overall fitness.

It's excellent for only one thing: Strengthening muscle groups. I would advocate for something like P90X for muscle development if that's the main goal. But "feeling fit" because you have well-developed muscles is NOT the same thing as "being fit" on the inside of your body. Cardio-vascular fitness develops not only your physique but ALSO tones your mental clarity and calms your emotional state. Suffering through the "boring" aspects of cardio helps a person learn focus and discipline, two components of a healthy lifestyle (arguably the MOST IMPORTANT two) that lifting weights utterly ignores.

There is SO much more to healthy living than what Marbs is saying, I hope nobody here follows his advice as gospel, even though he presents it that way. Not meaning to offend, but you are misleading and just plain wrong in the opinions you have offered in this thread.

Well, I think you know what I think of you.

For the other guys that are a little bit more open minded and willing to 'step outside' this cardio stupidity,

I recommend the following:

Starting Strength, by Mark Rippetoe

the Strong Lifts website,

and marksdailyapple.com, a great free resource on diet, health, and fitness.

Over and out.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Look I'm not here to put eyes in your heads. Everyone has to see for themselves.

But you would be wise to reconsider some of these beliefs you have about health, diet, and fitness.

Not sure where you saw me claim to "run" or do anything resembling hamster activities. BTW, I also stretch every day and once in a long while try some yoga.

Lifting is NOT a smart way to lose weight, and it will do very little to improve overall fitness.

It's excellent for only one thing: Strengthening muscle groups. I would advocate for something like P90X for muscle development if that's the main goal. But "feeling fit" because you have well-developed muscles is NOT the same thing as "being fit" on the inside of your body. Cardio-vascular fitness develops not only your physique but ALSO tones your mental clarity and calms your emotional state. Suffering through the "boring" aspects of cardio helps a person learn focus and discipline, two components of a healthy lifestyle (arguably the MOST IMPORTANT two) that lifting weights utterly ignores.

There is SO much more to healthy living than what Marbs is saying, I hope nobody here follows his advice as gospel, even though he presents it that way. Not meaning to offend, but you are misleading and just plain wrong in the opinions you have offered in this thread.

Well, I think you know what I think of you.

For the other guys that are a little bit more open minded and willing to 'step outside' this cardio stupidity,

I recommend the following:

Starting Strength, by Mark Rippetoe

the Strong Lifts website,

and marksdailyapple.com, a great free resource on diet, health, and fitness.

Over and out.

I haven't read this entire thread but Mark Rippeto know shis stuff.

I've been working out on and off since I was 16 (30 now) and I've seen better gains with less time spent in the gym just doing squats, deadlift, bench, and pullups with this guys philosophy than I did with all this other stuff I've tried.

That being said..if you just put consistent effort into anything: p90x, insanity, crossfit, whatever you'll get results. For me it's just a matter of getting the most time efficient and effective workout in.

Im running the half marathon not because i'm a runner.....I hate running, but its a challenge.I weight train every day just about and I take days off according to my schedule. Always upper bodyone day,then lower body supplementing a good run, on every other leg day.

Just saying, this thread was meant to talk about your workout routines not to start a war.

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Bonn1997 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Right now I'm not. I do walk my dogs about 2 miles a day but I've got a bad right knee and haven't been doing any intense exercise. I just got new orthotics and I feel better balanced with them than I ever have. I'm really hoping they help my knee and I can play basketball again.

Good luck with the half marathon! How old are you?

I'm 32....I got knee and hip issues but I been fighting through it....i'm all about challenges from here on out

32 here too. How long does your knee stay sore for after playing bball? I'm talking about soreness in the joint not the muscles. Just wondering. For me, it's a few days, and I definitely feel it when I go up and down stairs. Doc says my knee cap does glide right when I move.

I tore my acl 6 years ago....I never rehabbed it the way I should have. I get sore on the sides of my knee. And my leg would just die before my other one would. It's hard to play when your leg just gets tired quick....i'm working on that now though. The training is helping build stamina in the bad leg. Just trying to get it better.

What does you're doctor recommend? Surgery? Physical therapy?

Physical therapy and strengthening exercises, which I've done before and they didn't help. If the orthotics don't help, then I'll try physical therapy again. I get soreness below the knee cap (the area your doctor hits to test your reflexes).

You got patella issues...ever try the runners strap that goes over the patella tendon?

I put one on each knee just now. (I have mild issues with the left knee in the same area too.) It feels good!

I use it every tine I do something strenuous with my legs like running or playing ball. It takes the pressure off the tendon. You gotta strengthen you're legs too with emphasis in the quad. You might have muscle degeneration. compare your good leg from your bad led and see if the muscles look different

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Right now I'm not. I do walk my dogs about 2 miles a day but I've got a bad right knee and haven't been doing any intense exercise. I just got new orthotics and I feel better balanced with them than I ever have. I'm really hoping they help my knee and I can play basketball again.

Good luck with the half marathon! How old are you?

I'm 32....I got knee and hip issues but I been fighting through it....i'm all about challenges from here on out

32 here too. How long does your knee stay sore for after playing bball? I'm talking about soreness in the joint not the muscles. Just wondering. For me, it's a few days, and I definitely feel it when I go up and down stairs. Doc says my knee cap does glide right when I move.

I tore my acl 6 years ago....I never rehabbed it the way I should have. I get sore on the sides of my knee. And my leg would just die before my other one would. It's hard to play when your leg just gets tired quick....i'm working on that now though. The training is helping build stamina in the bad leg. Just trying to get it better.

What does you're doctor recommend? Surgery? Physical therapy?

Physical therapy and strengthening exercises, which I've done before and they didn't help. If the orthotics don't help, then I'll try physical therapy again. I get soreness below the knee cap (the area your doctor hits to test your reflexes).

You got patella issues...ever try the runners strap that goes over the patella tendon?

I put one on each knee just now. (I have mild issues with the left knee in the same area too.) It feels good!

I use it every tine I do something strenuous with my legs like running or playing ball. It takes the pressure off the tendon. You gotta strengthen you're legs too with emphasis in the quad. You might have muscle degeneration. compare your good leg from your bad led and see if the muscles look different