AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end dude to Tyson Chandler.

He is part of the problem. We dont need him to be a offensive juggernaut but a hook shot or some semblance of a post game would help out alot. He wouldnt clog up the paint and his man wouldnt constantly cheat off of him.

This is why Marc Gasol is superior to Tyson. He is a well rounded center who can defend, rebound, shoot, AND post.

Both centers signed at the end of 2011 for $58 million in 4 years. So they were evenly valued by their respective teams. Yes Gasol is a better passer and has a greater variety of shots. But Tyson is presently scoring only 1 point less than Gasol.

On the other side Tyson's has a few dramatic advantages. He shots a much higher percentage .707 vs .496 so he needs 9 shots to score 12 points a game, and Gasol needs 13 shots to score 13 points. Second, I believe Tyson plays better defense than Gasol, and because he is highly vocal, he has helped the Knicks defense play better. Finally, I think Tyson Chandler is a magnificent team mate, who everyone seems to like. By talking to his team mates and helping them learn to play more efficiently, he has made an extremely valuable contribution to the Knick's playoff chances.

If there is one Knick who is part of the solution, and not part of the problem, it is Tyson Chandler. Hope you can change your mind.

rvwink wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end dude to Tyson Chandler.

He is part of the problem. We dont need him to be a offensive juggernaut but a hook shot or some semblance of a post game would help out alot. He wouldnt clog up the paint and his man wouldnt constantly cheat off of him.

This is why Marc Gasol is superior to Tyson. He is a well rounded center who can defend, rebound, shoot, AND post.

Both centers signed at the end of 2011 for $58 million in 4 years. So they were evenly valued by their respective teams. Yes Gasol is a better passer and has a greater variety of shots. But Tyson is presently scoring only 1 point less than Gasol.

On the other side Tyson's has a few dramatic advantages. He shots a much higher percentage .707 vs .496 so he needs 9 shots to score 12 points a game, and Gasol needs 13 shots to score 13 points. Second, I believe Tyson plays better defense than Gasol, and because he is highly vocal, he has helped the Knicks defense play better. Finally, I think Tyson Chandler is a magnificent team mate, who everyone seems to like. By talking to his team mates and helping them learn to play more efficiently, he has made an extremely valuable contribution to the Knick's playoff chances.

If there is one Knick who is part of the solution, and not part of the problem, it is Tyson Chandler. Hope you can change your mind.

rvwink, this is the second post today of yours that has me impressed with your analysis and wisdom. Count me a new fan. Will make it a point to look for your posts.

rvwink wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end dude to Tyson Chandler.

He is part of the problem. We dont need him to be a offensive juggernaut but a hook shot or some semblance of a post game would help out alot. He wouldnt clog up the paint and his man wouldnt constantly cheat off of him.

This is why Marc Gasol is superior to Tyson. He is a well rounded center who can defend, rebound, shoot, AND post.

Both centers signed at the end of 2011 for $58 million in 4 years. So they were evenly valued by their respective teams. Yes Gasol is a better passer and has a greater variety of shots. But Tyson is presently scoring only 1 point less than Gasol.

On the other side Tyson's has a few dramatic advantages. He shots a much higher percentage .707 vs .496 so he needs 9 shots to score 12 points a game, and Gasol needs 13 shots to score 13 points. Second, I believe Tyson plays better defense than Gasol, and because he is highly vocal, he has helped the Knicks defense play better. Finally, I think Tyson Chandler is a magnificent team mate, who everyone seems to like. By talking to his team mates and helping them learn to play more efficiently, he has made an extremely valuable contribution to the Knick's playoff chances.

If there is one Knick who is part of the solution, and not part of the problem, it is Tyson Chandler. Hope you can change your mind.

Marc Gasol is averaging 3 points more than Chandler while providing offense and defense.

Marc Gasol's versatility allows him to play next to Zach Randolph because he can step out and make a shot. Him stepping out allows Randolph to post down low and opens up the middle. If Chandler played next to Randolph he'd turn Randolph into a jump shooter. This is partly why the Eddy Curry front court failed.

Having a big who can make a few shots also draws the opposing teams big away from the rim which allows for penetration by the guards.

AnubisADL wrote:

rvwink wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end dude to Tyson Chandler.

He is part of the problem. We dont need him to be a offensive juggernaut but a hook shot or some semblance of a post game would help out alot. He wouldnt clog up the paint and his man wouldnt constantly cheat off of him.

This is why Marc Gasol is superior to Tyson. He is a well rounded center who can defend, rebound, shoot, AND post.

Both centers signed at the end of 2011 for $58 million in 4 years. So they were evenly valued by their respective teams. Yes Gasol is a better passer and has a greater variety of shots. But Tyson is presently scoring only 1 point less than Gasol.

On the other side Tyson's has a few dramatic advantages. He shots a much higher percentage .707 vs .496 so he needs 9 shots to score 12 points a game, and Gasol needs 13 shots to score 13 points. Second, I believe Tyson plays better defense than Gasol, and because he is highly vocal, he has helped the Knicks defense play better. Finally, I think Tyson Chandler is a magnificent team mate, who everyone seems to like. By talking to his team mates and helping them learn to play more efficiently, he has made an extremely valuable contribution to the Knick's playoff chances.

If there is one Knick who is part of the solution, and not part of the problem, it is Tyson Chandler. Hope you can change your mind.

Marc Gasol is averaging 3 points more than Chandler while providing offense and defense.

Marc Gasol's versatility allows him to play next to Zach Randolph because he can step out and make a shot. Him stepping out allows Randolph to post down low and opens up the middle. If Chandler played next to Randolph he'd turn Randolph into a jump shooter. This is partly why the Eddy Curry front court failed.

Having a big who can make a few shots also draws the opposing teams big away from the rim which allows for penetration by the guards.

This is part of the reason Amare is coming off of screens like a 2g, when Amare played the 5, he had gallo or chandler playing the 4, that spreads the offense, cause those guys can't shoot 3's from the corners..Tyson chandler plays the paint, haardly ever pulls his man out of the paint and amare is always getting bottled up, and forcing things..

Tyson is great in a lot of other areas, but him and Amare should not play big mins together

AnubisADL wrote:
Marc Gasol is averaging 3 points more than Chandler while providing offense and defense.

Marc Gasol's versatility allows him to play next to Zach Randolph because he can step out and make a shot. Him stepping out allows Randolph to post down low and opens up the middle. If Chandler played next to Randolph he'd turn Randolph into a jump shooter. This is partly why the Eddy Curry front court failed.

Having a big who can make a few shots also draws the opposing teams big away from the rim which allows for penetration by the guards.

Attached are the 2010-11 results and the league's all-time Kia NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award winners:
2010-11 NBA Defensive Player of the Year presented by Kia Motors | Results
Player Team First-place (5 PTS) Second-place (3 PTS) Third-place (1 PT) Total Points

Dwight Howard Magic 114 5 -- 585
Kevin Garnett Celtics 1 20 12 77
Tyson Chandler Mavericks -- 20 10 70
Tony Allen Grizzlies -- 12 17 53
Rajon Rondo Celtics -- 14 3 45
Andrew Bogut Bucks -- 6 14 32
Grant Hill Suns 1 7 4 30
Andre Iguodala Sixers -- 5 14 29
LeBron James Heat -- 7 4 25
Luol Deng Bulls -- 5 9 24
Kobe Bryant Lakers -- 5 3 18
Chuck Hayes Rockets 2 -- 3 13
Chris Paul Hornets -- 3 4 13
Serge Ibaka Thunder -- 2 6 12
Joakim Noah Bulls 1 2 -- 11
Dwyane Wade Heat -- 2 2 8
Tim Duncan Spurs -- 2 1 7
Ron Artest Lakers -- 1 3 6
JaVale McGee Wizards -- 1 2 5
Keith Bogans Bulls 1 -- -- 5
Thabo Sefolosha Thunder -- -- 4 4
Andrew Bynum Lakers -- 1 -- 3
Kenyon Martin Nuggets -- -- 2 2
Gerald Wallace Blazers -- -- 2 2
Josh Smith Hawks -- -- 1 1

The voting comes from a panel of 124 sports writers and broadcasters. Do you think that the fact that Tyson Chandler finished 3rd only 7 votes behind Kevin Garnett, and Marc Gasol didn't make the list, means anything?

AnubisADL wrote:

rvwink wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end dude to Tyson Chandler.

He is part of the problem. We dont need him to be a offensive juggernaut but a hook shot or some semblance of a post game would help out alot. He wouldnt clog up the paint and his man wouldnt constantly cheat off of him.

This is why Marc Gasol is superior to Tyson. He is a well rounded center who can defend, rebound, shoot, AND post.

Both centers signed at the end of 2011 for $58 million in 4 years. So they were evenly valued by their respective teams. Yes Gasol is a better passer and has a greater variety of shots. But Tyson is presently scoring only 1 point less than Gasol.

On the other side Tyson's has a few dramatic advantages. He shots a much higher percentage .707 vs .496 so he needs 9 shots to score 12 points a game, and Gasol needs 13 shots to score 13 points. Second, I believe Tyson plays better defense than Gasol, and because he is highly vocal, he has helped the Knicks defense play better. Finally, I think Tyson Chandler is a magnificent team mate, who everyone seems to like. By talking to his team mates and helping them learn to play more efficiently, he has made an extremely valuable contribution to the Knick's playoff chances.

If there is one Knick who is part of the solution, and not part of the problem, it is Tyson Chandler. Hope you can change your mind.

Marc Gasol is averaging 3 points more than Chandler while providing offense and defense.

Marc Gasol's versatility allows him to play next to Zach Randolph because he can step out and make a shot. Him stepping out allows Randolph to post down low and opens up the middle. If Chandler played next to Randolph he'd turn Randolph into a jump shooter. This is partly why the Eddy Curry front court failed.

Having a big who can make a few shots also draws the opposing teams big away from the rim which allows for penetration by the guards.

AnubisADL wrote:

rvwink wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end dude to Tyson Chandler.

He is part of the problem. We dont need him to be a offensive juggernaut but a hook shot or some semblance of a post game would help out alot. He wouldnt clog up the paint and his man wouldnt constantly cheat off of him.

This is why Marc Gasol is superior to Tyson. He is a well rounded center who can defend, rebound, shoot, AND post.

Both centers signed at the end of 2011 for $58 million in 4 years. So they were evenly valued by their respective teams. Yes Gasol is a better passer and has a greater variety of shots. But Tyson is presently scoring only 1 point less than Gasol.

On the other side Tyson's has a few dramatic advantages. He shots a much higher percentage .707 vs .496 so he needs 9 shots to score 12 points a game, and Gasol needs 13 shots to score 13 points. Second, I believe Tyson plays better defense than Gasol, and because he is highly vocal, he has helped the Knicks defense play better. Finally, I think Tyson Chandler is a magnificent team mate, who everyone seems to like. By talking to his team mates and helping them learn to play more efficiently, he has made an extremely valuable contribution to the Knick's playoff chances.

If there is one Knick who is part of the solution, and not part of the problem, it is Tyson Chandler. Hope you can change your mind.

Marc Gasol is averaging 3 points more than Chandler while providing offense and defense.

Marc Gasol's versatility allows him to play next to Zach Randolph because he can step out and make a shot. Him stepping out allows Randolph to post down low and opens up the middle. If Chandler played next to Randolph he'd turn Randolph into a jump shooter. This is partly why the Eddy Curry front court failed.

Having a big who can make a few shots also draws the opposing teams big away from the rim which allows for penetration by the guards.

The big doesn't have to be able to shoot for there to be good spacing. Tyson doesn't stay in the paint. He moves and most of the time comes out to set picks. Therefore as the set evolves there are openings for STAT and others to attack the basket if they move. Many times it's Fields who makes a back cut to the hoop for an alleyoop or layup. STAT has the elbow jumper or he can fake and drive off that Tyson/Lin PnR.

arkrud wrote:Tyson is the most efficient Knick player. He does ONLY stuff that he does great.
You have 5 players doing just this and you have a dynasty.
Efficiency is the main thing for success in any sport and any business for that matter.
The problem with Melo is that he is NOT efficient.
The problem with a lot of role players we have that they try or forced to do things they are not good at.
Fields and Lin are efficient players so is Novak. Stat can be that if he is 100% physically and emotionally.
We need Melo to stop hugging and volume shooting.
And we should not play Walker, Douglas, and JR alike for very same reason. At lease play them as less as possible.

The crazy thing with Melo is that he rarely takes the easy high % shot. He seems to always go for the high degree of difficulty shot. Now Melo is so talented that he can make those shots, but he'd be unbelievable if he just took the best and easiest shot instead of the highlight reel shot.

nixluva wrote:

arkrud wrote:Tyson is the most efficient Knick player. He does ONLY stuff that he does great.
You have 5 players doing just this and you have a dynasty.
Efficiency is the main thing for success in any sport and any business for that matter.
The problem with Melo is that he is NOT efficient.
The problem with a lot of role players we have that they try or forced to do things they are not good at.
Fields and Lin are efficient players so is Novak. Stat can be that if he is 100% physically and emotionally.
We need Melo to stop hugging and volume shooting.
And we should not play Walker, Douglas, and JR alike for very same reason. At lease play them as less as possible.

The crazy thing with Melo is that he rarely takes the easy high % shot. He seems to always go for the high degree of difficulty shot. Now Melo is so talented that he can make those shots, but he'd be unbelievable if he just took the best and easiest shot instead of the highlight reel shot.