jrodmc wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:melo or amar'e need to go. simple as that. no room for TWO guys in the front court who only score and don't play D. you can make room for one, not two.

i'd keep melo and look to trade amar'e for ANYTHING.

Melo's defense in that game was great. He closed out well on all his shooters (causing DWill to airball a three in the middle of his three point barrage on our backcourt), he dove for loose balls, he was active in deflecting long passes and scrambled from the perimeter to contest paint baskets. His defense was solid.

Christ, I hate it when people lump Amare's attributes with Melo because they play on the same team and it's convenient to their agenda.

+1, Seriously

After being so dayummed wrong about JR (thus far), I find archibundo's comments both insightful and correct.
Thanks for adding some light and balance to the neverending suckhole that is Melo hate.

lol. After the first quarter of Sunday's game I wanted to throw a parade and proclaim JR as our Savior. His shot has abandoned him since then, but he is still more of an outside threat than Fields and Shumpert combined. When the shot starts falling.. watch out.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Look it's not necessarily Melo hate. But with what we have, how the team is built, Melo is the odd guy out, sad to say.

You compare the team on Sunday to tonight? It's not a team, you FEEL this when you watch the game and everyone who tells you they don't get a different FEELING from this team with Carmelo is lying to you and to themselves.

Don't you think, to be fair, we need to give Melo 5-6 games before we want to ship him out?

No, I don't think so. We've been saying the same thing about this guy for how long now? "It hasn't been one full season", "hasn't even been a year yet".

JR stepped off the plane from China and dropped ill-nasty swag all over the Garden. Everyone happy.

Melo comes back, fork in the tire.

It's just who he is, he's a dominant presence and it throws the team off its tracks. It derails the team, derails little Jeremy Lin and everything he's trying to do here.

I feel so ugly when I see that Iso.

At one point, Baron walks the ball up, dribble dribble calmly at the top of the perimeter, shot clock ticking away, looking to throw it to Melo in the post. Hideous.

JR step off the plane and went for about 6-16 and Novak went crazy in the forth qtr. Last night neither one could hit anything. MElo comes back puts up just 11 shots with 6 assist and you go crazy. Why because he kept the ball in his hand coming up the floor? Guess what so does Shump, Fields, and Smith. Fact of the matter Lin looked tired and gave up the ball. On top of that he was getting roasted.

Bottom line the Mavs game they knocked down shots this game they did not.

I know that I have a deeper appreciation for how much that off season work means to a player and if you throw that timing off in terms of their preparation it's hard for a player to get it back during the season. If not for the Lockout STAT and Melo might not have even been ready for the regular season. All I can say is THANK GOD FOR LIN, cuz Baron is really gonna need a lot of time to get some of his game back. Who knows if he'll be able to get most of it back this year. I do believe that from what I saw Baron will be better than Bibby. Even out of top form Baron looks better to me than Bibby.

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:I wonder what these same people will say if this team gels after the All Star break?

good luck trying to figure out what orangeblobman will say next

Actually, he and Bonn are very predictable. When I logged on after the game was over, I knew I would see threads and posts from them two that pretty much blamed Melo for the last nights loss.

airchibundo507 - Melo's defense in that game was great. He closed out well on all his shooters (causing DWill to airball a three in the middle of his three point barrage on our backcourt), he dove for loose balls, he was active in deflecting long passes and scrambled from the perimeter to contest paint baskets. His defense was solid.

well done.

Any critique of Stoudemire or Carmelo should start on defense. Defense is why the replacement Knicks won with Lin.

Offense is gravy.

Uptown wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:I wonder what these same people will say if this team gels after the All Star break?

good luck trying to figure out what orangeblobman will say next is a raving loonatic

Actually, he and Bonn are very predictable. When I logged on after the game was over, I knew I would see threads and posts from them two that pretty much blamed Melo for the last nights loss.

I agree with you on the point that orangeblobman has his agenda (and I would say a severely limited understanding of the game).

I'll try and fix the original post

"My mindset was just to not try to come in and not do too much, try to fit in and try to play my game within the system," Anthony said on Monday night. "[I want to] play the way that they've been playing the last few weeks: passing the ball, finding the open man, making the right play.".

"I want Jeremy to have the ball, hands down," Anthony (added) Monday night after going 3-for-10 in 31 minutes with Lin on the floor in New York's loss to the Nets. "I want him to create for me, I want him to create for Amare, I want him to create for everybody and still be as aggressive as he's been in the past.".

Uptown wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:I wonder what these same people will say if this team gels after the All Star break?

good luck trying to figure out what orangeblobman will say next

Actually, he and Bonn are very predictable. When I logged on after the game was over, I knew I would see threads and posts from them two that pretty much blamed Melo for the last nights loss.

CrushAlot wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:melo or amar'e need to go. simple as that. no room for TWO guys in the front court who only score and don't play D. you can make room for one, not two.

i'd keep melo and look to trade amar'e for ANYTHING.

hate to say it because I love Amare but if you look at whats best for team this is 100% correct. Especially when you look at how good Lin ran the P&R with Chandler

I agree. Unfortunately I think it would be hard to trade Amare's uninsured contract. His declining numbers don't help either. It might have to be Melo if you make a move. Chandler and Lin have a great chemsitry on the court.

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Bonn1997 wrote:It would be hard to trade Amare but at least he doesn't interfere with the offense. He can be incorporated into a well-run offense with Lin as the PG.

bonn1997 - There is no mistake how much his productivity has dropped and the point guard excuse has absolutely nothing to do with turnovers, rebounding or defending. Stoudemire is playing on courage and pride. Scary version? Amar'e could be done.

His offense is NOT in the flow any more than Steve Novak.

Do the math.