martin wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote: it's all water under the bridge now, I'm All Lin with D'Antoni now!

unless your totally blinded by bias people must recognize there is a truly special combo being formed. Imagine if MDA does for Lin over the next couple of years what he did with Nash? Except instead of Marion, Diaw and James Jones its Melo, Chandler and Fields/Shump to go with Amare?

Its premature, but damn its a pretty thought.

I know it's a great combo, the whole world knows it's a great combo now. All I'm just saying MDA could've pulled the trigger earlier than the Nets game for sure. If you saw the Boston game, you would agree with me. If you didn't, I don't know what to tell you.

or you can say MDA played Lin at exactly the right time, and that allowed him to explode.

Guess so.

matt wrote:Lin about to be on 1050 w/Michael Kay now (3:15)

thanks!

Im am totally ok with how Lin got to play.

TD got his chance and a vet player always does. Lin proved worthy of additional looks and he got it.

Dallas, GS, and Houstan all passed on the kid. If he did not get his chance he may have been on his way to play for Yao Mings team and we never would have been any worse for not know what never happend.

Maybe MDA loses his team and thats that.

Maybe Victor cruze does not get a first down in a win......
Or H20 get his bounce, JVG does not get extended, a big contract in Houston and live happy as a big time announcer!

So many "what ifs" in sports.

How many stories of star athletes in college now pushing a broom or pushing a needle for not getting the right chance at the right moment!

Plenty. Kurt Warner from Arena football to HOF career! John Starks, Rod Carew, Senator Blutosky, Tom Brady, and of course Roy Hobbs!

Fictional or real, the great stories have a twist of fate!

Its what makes sports so amazing!

Knicks caught a break for a change. Celebrate and enjoy it!

Bippity10 wrote:First of all: this is probably the dumbest argument ever on this board(right up there with the Tim Duncan is garbage and Ray Allen is not a consistent shooter like Allan Houston arguments from a few years back). The guy was undrafted. Cut twice. Passed over by 17 some odd teams after he was cut. And the coach that is playing him 40 minutes a night is the idiot?? Going by Lin's history if this coaching staff/front office wasn't in place we probably would have just ignored him on the waiver wire.

Second of allNobody knew that Lin would be this good. Not even Lin

Third of all-YOu don't win as individuals. You win as a team and as an organization. Who cares who's decision it was to play or sign a guy. Just like the guys have to come together on the court, we have to come together in the front office/coaching as well. Regardless who gets or doesn't receive credit, the man is playing and he's ours. I would blast D'Antoni if he benched Lin now!!!! But after all that has happened in Lin's history why would I get on D'Antoni for giving Douglas a shot first

Fourth of all-I'm pretty sure that the goal was not to lose Toney. The team likes him, he played well for us last year. Many of you losers were blasting D'Antoni for not giving him more playing time just 2 short years ago. Not sure they were willing to sacrifice Toney for a guy they knew nothing about.

And E-Why can't you guys just enjoy the moment?

Bc there are people on this board whos heads are so high up Phil Jacksons and JR Smiths ass that you an see them coming out of their mouths. It's stupid.

nixluva wrote:Baron's infection likely didn't change Lin's fate. TD and Bibby have been awful. Lin was beating guys in practice and I doubt that MDA somehow didn't see any of that. Like I said. Lin was sent to the D League not as a punishment but to get the kid some run in this system, because thank goodness the Knicks have their own D League club and they run our system there. With no practice days, how else was Lin going to get a chance to play and practice in the system and get accustomed to it? There literally weren't enough practices. After that they had Lin practice with Baron on game days and they say Lin looked great. MDA is cautious to make change but he didn't fail to prepare Lin for his shot. He actually gave Lin a better chance to succeed by making sure he had some time actually playing in the system a little before he threw him in there.

respectively I am fully convinced you're either a relative to Mike D'Antoni or someone close is in bed

Listen no one does not want to give MDA a little credit for some of Knicks /Lin success here. WINs make Coach and team great!

However how about Coach MDA giving MELO a tad of credit too eh? For D'Antoni to take the highroad on answers to Mike Francessa
which I listen to whole live show interview and not say explicitly MELO had some feedbacks to coach on playing LIN is lame from
Coach. Especially since the 'hurt' MELO is getting buried in Media and needs someone covering his back same as MELO STATED to
all media HE and Team has Coach MDA back when chants of FIRE D'Antoni roars was prevalent about 3 weeks ago eh ?

What D'Antoni done here is simple & LAME 100% as he always done. Melo gets no direct credit coach U.S.S. Ship D'Antoni cause
Mike knew already if Melo comes back Knicks win 1 then lose 4 MELO is BURIED and hammered in press & NBA Media.

If otherwise Knicks continue winning most/all games say next 4-6 games and Knicks are still hot Knicks and Lin and D'Antoni look
like genius & its a WIN-WIN situation for camp D'Antoni.

All in all D'Antoni can't lose by staying away from MELO situation and fact Carmelo Anthony superstar helped urge legend coach
MDA to play LIN put him in, give him floor minutes vs NETs. Then its' off to races for Jeremy Lin.

D'Antoni should get credit cool..
But as MELO had his back when Knicks OR LIN wasn't playing coach Mike is a Snake,
Don't ever forget it! when you're in his doghouse you're chained!
Coach still says minor selective statements favoring Carmelo Anthony and prefers to talk on Knicks success and his own smiles !

Maybe MDA opened up a fortune cookie and there was a message for him?

Does it matter who was the Genesis of the Linsanity inception?

Seems to me all get credit when its the team. And coaches get fired when it goes wrong.

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Figured it had to be one of the vets pushing MDA to play him...MDA is stubborn as a mule (See Toney Douglas).

its that same stubborness that is the reason players love him. Why Baron, Chandler, JJ and Amare have all publicly stated it was a big factor in them coming.

Players are allowed to work through slumps and nagging injuries. Players dont have to look over their shoulder if they have a bad stretch. They can just focus on fixing their game or eventually sit when its just not working. It can be frustrating for fans but it builds chemistry on the team. As a guy who's played a lot of team sports I know I would appreciate that

That stubborness is a Double-edged sword. Without dumb luck (Baron's infection and Jorts out 6 weeks), Lin's not called up from D league, D'Antoni stubbornly sticks to Shump and TD at PG and Melo at Point forward, Knicks lose to the Nets, and D'Antoni is probably fired for losing to the ****y Russian(no offense to anyone).

This is such BS!!! I just made a very detailed thread that proves that Lin wasn't being ignored and that it was the circumstances of when Lin was brought in and the tight schedule that didn't allow Lin to really have a fair shot early on. Lin didn't have training camp and the season was already underway when he got here.

MDA sent Lin down when the team was 6-7!!! This was before the team was in desperation mode.
MDA didn't send Lin down to the D league to punish him as if he needed to get rid of him. It was to get the kid some run so he could get comfortable with the System, which he had not had a chance to do with NO PRACTICE DAYS!!! Go look at the schedule and you will see that it was a necessity. Did Melo put in a good word for Lin? I bet he did, but it's the head coach that is responsible for making sure players get the training and coaching they need and MDA made the right moves and did put Lin in games at what he felt was a proper time and place. In the end it's still the coaches call on who plays. MDA did right by Lin and he was more prepared when he did get his shot. That's what a good coach does.

per Bill Simmons, you are 100 percent off on this:

"don't forget the part where, for a couple of weeks after Lin joined the Knicks, Mike D'Antoni never acknowledged him or called him by his name. A source close to Lin tells me that this was 100 percent true. D'Antoni had totally checked out; if Baron Davis came back two weeks sooner, the Knicks probably would have cut Lin before Linsanity even started."

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7579097/linsanity-bag

I knew he was just a bystander when it came to Lin but it's even worse than I thought.

Yeah, I want to extend someone who gave up and checked out like that.