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2/12/2012  2:45 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:You guys should watch the LA game and just look at how hard Melo was cheering after almost every Lin basket and how he was waving his hands like " that aint nothing" when Kobe anwered with a basket. It was funny. We just have to wait and see but I think it will work out. People giving Lin the credit but are forgetting the importance of Novak being in the line up to space the floor something Melo did not have. Line will control the ball and Melo will be o.k. It is not like Billups did not control the ball and he had many possesion in the game where he just brought the ball up and posted up his defender. If he can play with a score first pg I am sure he can play with a pass first pg.
See some of thr melo fans are misinterpreting. Noobody says melo isn't happy playing with lin. they're just stating that melo runs a much different offense then what we are doing now. right now we are spread the floor getting to the hoop and getting more people involved. Now i think melo can do that because he is very talented but we haven't seen that yet from him. I mean that a very fair assessment
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2/12/2012  2:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2012  3:00 PM
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yellowboy90 wrote:If (Melo) can play with a score first pg I am sure he can play with a pass first pg.

Exactly

"Lin has helped Steve Novak and Jared Jeffries play better and he'll do the same for Anthony and Stoudemire because of how he reads defenses, attacks the paint and distributes the ball. But those two also will make Lin better because teams won't be able to trap or double-team him with them on the court." - Al Iannazzone, Newsday

"I'm excited about getting those two guys back and I'm excited about the possibilities of where we can go," he said. "We should only get better from here. Guys will have to bend a little bit and we'll bend toward them. We see the light." Mike D'Antoni

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2/12/2012  3:28 PM
Amare and Melo both played that Nets game where Lin scored 25pts and had 7ast on 19attempts off the bench. Both Melo and Amare differed to Lin and allowed him to do his thing.
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2/12/2012  3:37 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
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Bonn1997 wrote:We need a guy who's been playing the same way for 8 years to entirely change his approach to offense. It's not impossible but it's highly uncommon.

uh, he's played with point guards before. andre miller was always near the league leaders in assists when he was in denver with melo. chauncey had the ball in his hands a lot. so did iverson.

melo isn't a selfish player, i think he got caught up in the idea he needed to do it all here.

i'm hoping this week watching the team helps him see the possibilities of playing with his teammates. it's certainly a big slice of humble pie to have the team go 5-0 w/lin after a 2-11 stretch.


Sure, if the goal is to win two playoff series over an eight year span, he can keep doing what he's always done.


Its funny how you're quick to use Stats and Numbers to back up your point but fail to mention them (or purposely hide them) when they would expose your propagand-like posts. With the exception of 2 series, every single time the Nuggs lost in the first round they did not have homecourt advantage and lost to the Spurs and Lakers I believe 4 times in a very tough west. The one year they did break through, they finally had homecourt which is essential in the playoffs and they had a vet-lead guard in Billups.....


So his teams weren't good enough to get home-court or get a matchup against a lower seed? That does not contract anything in my "propagand-like" (sic) posts.

Dude, the western conference was loaded during those times. The Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Suns, Rockets (during Yoa's prime) and the Jazz were all really good teams back then. In 2008, the Nuggs were 50-32 and were the 8th seed in the playoffs. We are 13-15 and are currently holding the 8th seed in the east. Last year we were 42-40 and that was good for the 6th seed.


Is the goal to develop a team that's better than the Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Magic, Bulls, Heat, etc., or not? If not, he can keep doing what he's always done.

So essentially, are you saying that Melo needed to adjust his game while with the Nuggs in order to beat teams like Lakers and Spurs? If this is what you are saying, your are more delusional than I thought. By the same premise, I guess John Stockton and Karl Malone needed to change their games in order to beat those Bulls teams. I guess Barkley, fresh off his MVP season needed to adjust his game to in order to beat the Bulls aswell. It had nothing to do with the fact that the Bulls were just better, but if only Stockton could have stopped playing the same way he had for years and changed his game, he would have lifted the Jazz over the Bulls.

Those Laker and Spur teams were flat-out better teams than those Nuggs Teams. Case closed. Seriously, dude there is no need going back-n-forth with you. Your mind is already made up.

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2/12/2012  3:41 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Amare and Melo both played that Nets game where Lin scored 25pts and had 7ast on 19attempts off the bench. Both Melo and Amare differed to Lin and allowed him to do his thing.

Dude, your not playing fair. You're not allowed to used that game. It doesn't help with the agenda. Where is that Men-in-Black memory eraser. This post never happened. Nothing to see here....Keep it moving

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2/12/2012  3:51 PM
To be honest with you, I'm not concerned with the offense as much as I am the defense. I think Melo will be appreciative of the opportunities Lin can give him for easy baskets. Melo is banged up and this shortened season has already taken a toll on him.
The thing I worry about is the defense intensity. We've gotten a lot of steals and deflections during this five game stretch. Even though we had a size disadvantage against the Lakers and Timberwolves, we were stills pests to their big guys. I hope we can continue that when Stat and Melo return.
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2/12/2012  3:59 PM
Uptown wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Amare and Melo both played that Nets game where Lin scored 25pts and had 7ast on 19attempts off the bench. Both Melo and Amare differed to Lin and allowed him to do his thing.

Dude, your not playing fair. You're not allowed to used that game. It doesn't help with the agenda. Where is that Men-in-Black memory eraser. This post never happened. Nothing to see here....Keep it moving

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2/12/2012  4:12 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Amare and Melo both played that Nets game where Lin scored 25pts and had 7ast on 19attempts off the bench. Both Melo and Amare differed to Lin and allowed him to do his thing.


THANK YOU!!!

Both STAT and Melo desperately want to play with a PG!!! It's not like they have felt comfortable having to create so much for themselves or teammates. Lin takes the pressure off just like Nash or CP3.

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2/12/2012  4:14 PM
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newyorknewyork wrote:Amare and Melo both played that Nets game where Lin scored 25pts and had 7ast on 19attempts off the bench. Both Melo and Amare differed to Lin and allowed him to do his thing.


THANK YOU!!!

Both STAT and Melo desperately want to play with a PG!!! It's not like they have felt comfortable having to create so much for themselves or teammates. Lin takes the pressure off just like Nash or CP3.

Stat and Melo arent deferring to Jeremy Lin. They let him shine because they knew he might be let go.

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2/12/2012  4:26 PM
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nixluva wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Amare and Melo both played that Nets game where Lin scored 25pts and had 7ast on 19attempts off the bench. Both Melo and Amare differed to Lin and allowed him to do his thing.


THANK YOU!!!

Both STAT and Melo desperately want to play with a PG!!! It's not like they have felt comfortable having to create so much for themselves or teammates. Lin takes the pressure off just like Nash or CP3.

Stat and Melo arent deferring to Jeremy Lin. They let him shine because they knew he might be let go.

and where did you glean this bit of information from? Make-up town?

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2/12/2012  4:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2012  4:54 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
Uptown wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Amare and Melo both played that Nets game where Lin scored 25pts and had 7ast on 19attempts off the bench. Both Melo and Amare differed to Lin and allowed him to do his thing.

Dude, your not playing fair. You're not allowed to used that game. It doesn't help with the agenda. Where is that Men-in-Black memory eraser. This post never happened. Nothing to see here....Keep it moving

The revolution "will" be televised.

LOL....Beautiful!!!! BTW, did anyone here Mike Breen say that Douglas was a better defender, scorer and player than Lin, while Lin was at the scorer's table? Time for Breen to Man-Up!!!!

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2/12/2012  5:27 PM
that video shows you that if you actually give a player extened minutes you see what a player could do. the rockets gm even said he regrets lettng lin go because he enver got a chance to see what lin could do in a extended game
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2/12/2012  5:29 PM
JCrusher wrote:that video shows you that if you actually give a player extened minutes you see what a player could do. the rockets gm even said he regrets lettng lin go because he enver got a chance to see what lin could do in a extended game

Have to give MDA credit for sticking with himin the Nets game. Lin bricked about 3 jumpers in a row and he easily could have yanked him. He stuck with him and it paid off...

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2/12/2012  5:31 PM
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JCrusher wrote:that video shows you that if you actually give a player extened minutes you see what a player could do. the rockets gm even said he regrets lettng lin go because he enver got a chance to see what lin could do in a extended game

Have to give MDA credit for sticking with himin the Nets game. Lin bricked about 3 jumpers in a row and he easily could have yanked him. He stuck with him and it paid off...

ya well i think mike saw how lin was penetrating and dishing. If lin could get some consistency with his jumper he will be lethal(he already is lol)
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2/12/2012  6:27 PM
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yellowboy90 wrote:If (Melo) can play with a score first pg I am sure he can play with a pass first pg.

Exactly

"Lin has helped Steve Novak and Jared Jeffries play better and he'll do the same for Anthony and Stoudemire because of how he reads defenses, attacks the paint and distributes the ball. But those two also will make Lin better because teams won't be able to trap or double-team him with them on the court." - Al Iannazzone, Newsday

"I'm excited about getting those two guys back and I'm excited about the possibilities of where we can go," he said. "We should only get better from here. Guys will have to bend a little bit and we'll bend toward them. We see the light." Mike D'Antoni

+1

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2/12/2012  7:10 PM
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:We need a guy who's been playing the same way for 8 years to entirely change his approach to offense. It's not impossible but it's highly uncommon.

uh, he's played with point guards before. andre miller was always near the league leaders in assists when he was in denver with melo. chauncey had the ball in his hands a lot. so did iverson.

melo isn't a selfish player, i think he got caught up in the idea he needed to do it all here.

i'm hoping this week watching the team helps him see the possibilities of playing with his teammates. it's certainly a big slice of humble pie to have the team go 5-0 w/lin after a 2-11 stretch.


Sure, if the goal is to win two playoff series over an eight year span, he can keep doing what he's always done.


Its funny how you're quick to use Stats and Numbers to back up your point but fail to mention them (or purposely hide them) when they would expose your propagand-like posts. With the exception of 2 series, every single time the Nuggs lost in the first round they did not have homecourt advantage and lost to the Spurs and Lakers I believe 4 times in a very tough west. The one year they did break through, they finally had homecourt which is essential in the playoffs and they had a vet-lead guard in Billups.....


So his teams weren't good enough to get home-court or get a matchup against a lower seed? That does not contract anything in my "propagand-like" (sic) posts.

Dude, the western conference was loaded during those times. The Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Suns, Rockets (during Yoa's prime) and the Jazz were all really good teams back then. In 2008, the Nuggs were 50-32 and were the 8th seed in the playoffs. We are 13-15 and are currently holding the 8th seed in the east. Last year we were 42-40 and that was good for the 6th seed.


Is the goal to develop a team that's better than the Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Magic, Bulls, Heat, etc., or not? If not, he can keep doing what he's always done.

So essentially, are you saying that Melo needed to adjust his game while with the Nuggs in order to beat teams like Lakers and Spurs? If this is what you are saying, your are more delusional than I thought. By the same premise, I guess John Stockton and Karl Malone needed to change their games in order to beat those Bulls teams. I guess Barkley, fresh off his MVP season needed to adjust his game to in order to beat the Bulls aswell. It had nothing to do with the fact that the Bulls were just better, but if only Stockton could have stopped playing the same way he had for years and changed his game, he would have lifted the Jazz over the Bulls.

Those Laker and Spur teams were flat-out better teams than those Nuggs Teams. Case closed. Seriously, dude there is no need going back-n-forth with you. Your mind is already made up.


Ah, the guy who thought we had a .500 team is delusional and the ones who thought we had a .700 team were geniuses. Brilliant.
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2/13/2012  3:49 AM
Great quotes from Ron Harper:

I hope he was sitting over on the bench, seeing what was going on and how the ball free-flows now,'' said Ron Harper, outside the Laker locker room, late Friday night in the Garden. “Carmelo is a player who you can close games with. When you need a basket late, he can get his own shot or he can get the other guys shots. But now he’s got to realize that the style they’re playing is benefitting the whole team. It’s not just benefitting him.''

Incredible as it’s been, Lin is doing what Raymond Felton did when he found himself in point-guard heaven, except that Lin has taken it to another level.

This isn’t a fluke. You don’t have to be Steve Nash to fourish in Mike D’Antoni’s system. A smart, talented playmaker can flourish when the court is spread wide and there are no restrictions.

If you don’t think it’s the perfect system for an undrafted player who couldn’t cut it in Golden State or Houston, ask yourself this: How has Felton done since he left New York?

Amar’e Stoudemire will reap the benefits of having No. 17 with the ball in his hands. If Stoudemire doesn’t return to being an offensive force, as he was when he was finishing plays on Felton’s pick-and-rolls, then maybe his decline has more to do with his back and knees and whatever else might be plaguing him, physically. More likely, he’s been neutered by being bogged down in Melo-land.

The real dicey part of the equation will come when ‘Melo returns.

I think he’s a smart player and I think he can fit into it, and if he does, then they’ve got a solid playoff team that can make a run,'' said Harper, who won rings alongside Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen in Chicago, and then with Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal in Los Angeles. “But the question is whether he can fit into it for the whole year. I’m not going to say that he can’t do it. I’d like to see him do it. But it’s not on anybody else but Carmelo. He’s got to adjust. He saw how they played when he was holding the ball. What did they do? They were losing. I’ve got kids and we watch their games on TV all the time and they’re always saying to me, 'Daddy, why is he holding the ball?' He’s got to learn how to play without the ball. The best offensive players learn how to play without the ball. Where to go. How to get open. He’s got to learn that."


http://Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-knicks-winning-jeremy-lin-running-show-carmelo-anthony-change-game-returns-groin-injury-article-1.1021584#ixzz1mFYG9qQr
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2/13/2012  4:01 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:Great quotes from Ron Harper:

I hope he was sitting over on the bench, seeing what was going on and how the ball free-flows now,'' said Ron Harper, outside the Laker locker room, late Friday night in the Garden. “Carmelo is a player who you can close games with. When you need a basket late, he can get his own shot or he can get the other guys shots. But now he’s got to realize that the style they’re playing is benefitting the whole team. It’s not just benefitting him.''

Incredible as it’s been, Lin is doing what Raymond Felton did when he found himself in point-guard heaven, except that Lin has taken it to another level.

This isn’t a fluke. You don’t have to be Steve Nash to fourish in Mike D’Antoni’s system. A smart, talented playmaker can flourish when the court is spread wide and there are no restrictions.

If you don’t think it’s the perfect system for an undrafted player who couldn’t cut it in Golden State or Houston, ask yourself this: How has Felton done since he left New York?

Amar’e Stoudemire will reap the benefits of having No. 17 with the ball in his hands. If Stoudemire doesn’t return to being an offensive force, as he was when he was finishing plays on Felton’s pick-and-rolls, then maybe his decline has more to do with his back and knees and whatever else might be plaguing him, physically. More likely, he’s been neutered by being bogged down in Melo-land.

The real dicey part of the equation will come when ‘Melo returns.

I think he’s a smart player and I think he can fit into it, and if he does, then they’ve got a solid playoff team that can make a run,'' said Harper, who won rings alongside Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen in Chicago, and then with Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal in Los Angeles. “But the question is whether he can fit into it for the whole year. I’m not going to say that he can’t do it. I’d like to see him do it. But it’s not on anybody else but Carmelo. He’s got to adjust. He saw how they played when he was holding the ball. What did they do? They were losing. I’ve got kids and we watch their games on TV all the time and they’re always saying to me, 'Daddy, why is he holding the ball?' He’s got to learn how to play without the ball. The best offensive players learn how to play without the ball. Where to go. How to get open. He’s got to learn that."


http://Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-knicks-winning-jeremy-lin-running-show-carmelo-anthony-change-game-returns-groin-injury-article-1.1021584#ixzz1mFYG9qQr

Smfh.

Trade the bum, please.

Go Amar'e!

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2/13/2012  4:08 AM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:Great quotes from Ron Harper:

I hope he was sitting over on the bench, seeing what was going on and how the ball free-flows now,'' said Ron Harper, outside the Laker locker room, late Friday night in the Garden. “Carmelo is a player who you can close games with. When you need a basket late, he can get his own shot or he can get the other guys shots. But now he’s got to realize that the style they’re playing is benefitting the whole team. It’s not just benefitting him.''

Incredible as it’s been, Lin is doing what Raymond Felton did when he found himself in point-guard heaven, except that Lin has taken it to another level.

This isn’t a fluke. You don’t have to be Steve Nash to fourish in Mike D’Antoni’s system. A smart, talented playmaker can flourish when the court is spread wide and there are no restrictions.

If you don’t think it’s the perfect system for an undrafted player who couldn’t cut it in Golden State or Houston, ask yourself this: How has Felton done since he left New York?

Amar’e Stoudemire will reap the benefits of having No. 17 with the ball in his hands. If Stoudemire doesn’t return to being an offensive force, as he was when he was finishing plays on Felton’s pick-and-rolls, then maybe his decline has more to do with his back and knees and whatever else might be plaguing him, physically. More likely, he’s been neutered by being bogged down in Melo-land.

The real dicey part of the equation will come when ‘Melo returns.

I think he’s a smart player and I think he can fit into it, and if he does, then they’ve got a solid playoff team that can make a run,'' said Harper, who won rings alongside Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen in Chicago, and then with Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal in Los Angeles. “But the question is whether he can fit into it for the whole year. I’m not going to say that he can’t do it. I’d like to see him do it. But it’s not on anybody else but Carmelo. He’s got to adjust. He saw how they played when he was holding the ball. What did they do? They were losing. I’ve got kids and we watch their games on TV all the time and they’re always saying to me, 'Daddy, why is he holding the ball?' He’s got to learn how to play without the ball. The best offensive players learn how to play without the ball. Where to go. How to get open. He’s got to learn that."


http://Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/ny-knicks-winning-jeremy-lin-running-show-carmelo-anthony-change-game-returns-groin-injury-article-1.1021584#ixzz1mFYG9qQr

Smfh.

Trade the bum, please.

Go Amar'e!

Come on, that is a bit harsh. We got to see what he can do. And I have a feeling he will "do". I mean imagine this, his career in Denver was marred by his one on one playing and his killing of ball movement. His career (albeit short) has been marred here as well. I mean it's to the point where the crowd is chanting "Pass the ball"! LOL. So, now we have a PG who has transformed the city, the fans, the players, etc. and Melo is going to come back and do what? Damn straight, if he messes this up he is an asset to be traded.

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2/13/2012  8:15 AM
As far as I'm concerned, the Knicks have to worry about one thing the next few years: the Miami Heat. Any path to a title will have to go through LeBron. And I can't think of anyone who has played LeBron tougher in the league than Carmelo Anthony. If we want to hold Carmelo's playoff series history against him, then you have to at least give him his performances against James over the years. There are a lot of reasons not to "trade the bum" (good Lord) but this to me is one of the biggest.
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Will Anthony make an effort to play within the fluid, unselfish ball movement that Lin has brought again to the offense.

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