MaTT4281 wrote:

y2zipper wrote:

Markji wrote:Jeffries is good at what he does - defense and taking a charge. His offense around the basket is terrible. What I don't understand is why he can't/hasn't improved? I'm sure the coaches recognize this deficiency and should be working with him. He's a smart BB player and veteran. He should be able to improve.

The one incredible shot he made was a reverse layup against the Nets. It's in the Jeremy Lin highlights I believe.

Jeffries' success, as I've said before, is relative to his role. When the conversation starts with, "Hey guys! We're going into the year with Jared Jeffries as our starting center!" of course everybody dumps on it because that means you have somebody worse backing him up. This year the Knicks have Chandler, STAT and Jorts all ahead of him in the rotation, which means he can thrive in his ideal role: a guy who can give us 15-20 minutes as a positional defender around the basket.

It's really the same thing as Toney Douglas. When he's allowed to be a backup SG, catch-and-shoot, and take the ball to the basket and his shots fall, he's great. When he's asked to facilitate for Melo and STAT or run the offense in any capacity, he sucks.

Absolutely. Not to mention that Jeffries is an excellent TEAM defender. Now that we have an actual TEAM defense along side of him, JJ is just a much better fit.

The defining moment when Jared won my respect was, ironically, when he chased down Melo after the Mardy Collins sucker punch. His offensive limitations are definitely frustrating at times, but you just can't hate on the guy.

Thanks for reminding me.

Just saw the video again.

Melo is a bitch, sad to say.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

y2zipper wrote:

Markji wrote:Jeffries is good at what he does - defense and taking a charge. His offense around the basket is terrible. What I don't understand is why he can't/hasn't improved? I'm sure the coaches recognize this deficiency and should be working with him. He's a smart BB player and veteran. He should be able to improve.

The one incredible shot he made was a reverse layup against the Nets. It's in the Jeremy Lin highlights I believe.

Jeffries' success, as I've said before, is relative to his role. When the conversation starts with, "Hey guys! We're going into the year with Jared Jeffries as our starting center!" of course everybody dumps on it because that means you have somebody worse backing him up. This year the Knicks have Chandler, STAT and Jorts all ahead of him in the rotation, which means he can thrive in his ideal role: a guy who can give us 15-20 minutes as a positional defender around the basket.

It's really the same thing as Toney Douglas. When he's allowed to be a backup SG, catch-and-shoot, and take the ball to the basket and his shots fall, he's great. When he's asked to facilitate for Melo and STAT or run the offense in any capacity, he sucks.

Absolutely. Not to mention that Jeffries is an excellent TEAM defender. Now that we have an actual TEAM defense along side of him, JJ is just a much better fit.

The defining moment when Jared won my respect was, ironically, when he chased down Melo after the Mardy Collins sucker punch. His offensive limitations are definitely frustrating at times, but you just can't hate on the guy.

Thanks for reminding me.

Just saw the video again.

Melo is a bitch, sad to say.

But now he's our bitch and we gotta love our own.

MaTT4281 wrote:

y2zipper wrote:

Markji wrote:Jeffries is good at what he does - defense and taking a charge. His offense around the basket is terrible. What I don't understand is why he can't/hasn't improved? I'm sure the coaches recognize this deficiency and should be working with him. He's a smart BB player and veteran. He should be able to improve.

The one incredible shot he made was a reverse layup against the Nets. It's in the Jeremy Lin highlights I believe.

Jeffries' success, as I've said before, is relative to his role. When the conversation starts with, "Hey guys! We're going into the year with Jared Jeffries as our starting center!" of course everybody dumps on it because that means you have somebody worse backing him up. This year the Knicks have Chandler, STAT and Jorts all ahead of him in the rotation, which means he can thrive in his ideal role: a guy who can give us 15-20 minutes as a positional defender around the basket.

It's really the same thing as Toney Douglas. When he's allowed to be a backup SG, catch-and-shoot, and take the ball to the basket and his shots fall, he's great. When he's asked to facilitate for Melo and STAT or run the offense in any capacity, he sucks.

Absolutely. Not to mention that Jeffries is an excellent TEAM defender. Now that we have an actual TEAM defense along side of him, JJ is just a much better fit.

The defining moment when Jared won my respect was, ironically, when he chased down Melo after the Mardy Collins sucker punch. His offensive limitations are definitely frustrating at times, but you just can't hate on the guy.

CrushAlot wrote:

eViL wrote:love that the fans took it way easier on Jeffries today.

He was a warrior tonight.

jeffries is a great knick. not an all-time knick, but a great player. his defense tonight was incredible.

nixluva wrote:Maybe the fans are starting to appreciate Jared's hustle and defense a bit more as MDA said. The guy really plays hard. It's clear that the defense is better with him in there with Tyson. STAT and Melo actually weaken our defense, which is much more noticeable with them out. Jared may not hit all his shots, but i'm glad MDA tells him to keep looking for his offense anyway. Sometimes they go in or he draws a foul. Most of the time no one is guarding him.

honestly, the way MDA stuck up for Jeffries really restored my faith in coach. i respect what he values. and i think people have him very much misunderstood and Jeffries is really a prime example. MDA loves him. he values what he brings -- hard work, gritty play, team first attitude, spirit, relentlessness. it's not just all offense for MDA.

http://www.msg.com/videos/lin-postgame-win-vs-lakers-210-1.82753