RonRon wrote:funny how some of us here DO KNOW BETTER than Dantoni, if only he would have listened earlier....

LOL and what were you basing this "knowing" on? were you in practice with him? or was it all that game-tape that i'm sure you've watched on lin?

oh that's right, we can say whatever we want on here without having to worry about our decisions getting us fired.

misterearl wrote:

93BUICK wrote:By March 1st if they all are healthy

93 Buick - Baron Davis should be handled with extreme caution, even AFTER he is able to play... IF he is ever able to play. Inserting him as the starter, and playing extended minutes, is asking for back trouble.

St Patricks Day Shift du Jour

Lin, stay thirsty my friend
Fields, with the sofa assist
Melo, as an efficient scorer
Amar'e, did somebody say pick and roll?
Chandler, "can't get enough, of that funky stuff"

Shumpert as The Microwave, go strong to the rack young man, go strong
Baron Davis, cameos until his muscles remember confidence. Absolutely NOT as a starter until he proves he can go 3 games in 5 days.
Jeffries, hold up... did he make a reverse layup?

Bonus
Harrellson, get well soon, need his rebounding, enough with the three's areddy, develop a mid range shot son

The rest can take a hike

You know unlike Avi Lee who could never reclaim his first initial, Ared Effries is starting to make a case for gettig both Js reinserted back into his name. Dude's hitting jumpers from all over the place.

nixluva wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

RonRon wrote:funny how some of us here DO KNOW BETTER than Dantoni, if only he would have listened earlier....

LOL and what were you basing this "knowing" on? were you in practice with him? or was it all that game-tape that i'm sure you've watched on lin?

oh that's right, we can say whatever we want on here without having to worry about our decisions getting us fired.

Coach has been slow with guys ever since he had that problem with Moz being rushed. He said that he made a mistake rushing him in and then after that he was very slow to bring in Shawne, even tho he had been showing he was good in practice. There was no harm in waiting and bringing him along slowly. When he did get in he stayed in!!! He's done the same thing with Lin. They haven't been talking about him, just working with him and getting Lin ready. Then you put him in games with less pressure on him to get his feet wet and keep giving him spots as he does well. I see nothing wrong with how Lin was handled.

Aye.

I think MDA did a great job bringing Lin up to speed. He kept him hungry, like Cujo.

Coach D'Antoni knows how to bring the young guys along. And don't you dare bring AR or J-Hill into this conversation.

loweyecue wrote:

misterearl wrote:

93BUICK wrote:By March 1st if they all are healthy

93 Buick - Baron Davis should be handled with extreme caution, even AFTER he is able to play... IF he is ever able to play. Inserting him as the starter, and playing extended minutes, is asking for back trouble.

St Patricks Day Shift du Jour

Lin, stay thirsty my friend
Fields, with the sofa assist
Melo, as an efficient scorer
Amar'e, did somebody say pick and roll?
Chandler, "can't get enough, of that funky stuff"

Shumpert as The Microwave, go strong to the rack young man, go strong
Baron Davis, cameos until his muscles remember confidence. Absolutely NOT as a starter until he proves he can go 3 games in 5 days.
Jeffries, hold up... did he make a reverse layup?

Bonus
Harrellson, get well soon, need his rebounding, enough with the three's areddy, develop a mid range shot son

The rest can take a hike

You know unlike Avi Lee who could never reclaim his first initial, Ared Effries is starting to make a case for gettig both Js reinserted back into his name. Dude's hitting jumpers from all over the place.

I want to believe. He has done it on occasion. But I think I' d rather see TD take a shot even. As of right now JJ is still the last person I want to see shooting. Yeah! I'd rather see TC shoot the 10 footer !!

RonRon wrote:that is the beauty of having a PG capable of penetration, breaking down the opponents defense.
He constantly looks to generate good shots and forces teams to help, while creating the space and good % shots for the team.

It's exactly what has been missing and we've all said that!!! It's the one clear strength we all saw Lin had and hoped he could get in there and help. I'm so glad I don't have to watch TD butcher the offense anymore. Lin is many levels above TD in terms of PG play. This offense is tailor made for a PG by a PG, so if you have any talent you can do well, but if you've got REAL talent for the PG spot, you can REALLY excel.

Lin doesn't have to score 25 every night, but in terms of what's open for him, this kind of night will be possible, cuz in this offense it leaves the PG in prime position to take advantage of the defense. Lin has the handle, speed and court vision to excel in this system. As messed up as it was to be cut by teams, this is where Lin belongs with his talent.

ramtour420 wrote:

markvmc wrote:It's great that Lin is doing well--but before this weekend he had looked completely lost in the minutes he did get. It might just be as simple as he wasn't ready for major minutes before now.

No he wasn't. Every chance he got he showed to be our best PG. Or our only healthy PG, its the same thing really. When we played Miami at the get together, I though that Lin might play the whole second half and we'd pull out a win. Instead he did not play. Btw, did you catch TC's quote" He has been crossing everyone over at practice for a while now" Gotta love that

nixluva wrote:

RonRon wrote:that is the beauty of having a PG capable of penetration, breaking down the opponents defense.
He constantly looks to generate good shots and forces teams to help, while creating the space and good % shots for the team.

It's exactly what has been missing and we've all said that!!! It's the one clear strength we all saw Lin had and hoped he could get in there and help. I'm so glad I don't have to watch TD butcher the offense anymore. Lin is many levels above TD in terms of PG play. This offense is tailor made for a PG by a PG, so if you have any talent you can do well, but if you've got REAL talent for the PG spot, you can REALLY excel.

Lin doesn't have to score 25 every night, but in terms of what's open for him, this kind of night will be possible, cuz in this offense it leaves the PG in prime position to take advantage of the defense. Lin has the handle, speed and court vision to excel in this system. As messed up as it was to be cut by teams, this is where Lin belongs with his talent.

I am happy he finally gets his shot, even though I think he should have got a shot earlier, at the very least 2 games after he was recalled for the D League.
I have said he is our best option as a true PG, while Iman is a better defender, he doesn't help the situation by giving so many ISO plays to Melo every opportunity he gets.
It is a multiple chain reaction with Lin's abilities, while some have sh!@@$% on this kid, I was saying he has the abilities to start for us.

I just hope we find a way to retain Lin and Fields at this point, somehow gaining a 1 year option in which we can get his bird rights and pay them both next year to be part of our future. However, we still need upgrades on other positions as well. I would love to add a player like Dragic, Nash, or Earl Watson but I don't know what is realistic if we are looking to retain Fields/Lin. Fields has improved his game greatly this year, playing on a completely different level. Especially with his guard skills, being forced to play SG, while being a natural SF. In order to keep Lin and Fields, they would most likely have to take give NY a discount with opt outs for 1 year. We can retain them the following year, while being over the cap and giving them a good/fair extension for a longer extension. We will also have be in the same situation next year with Jorts and Jordan the following year.
So how we handle Fields/Lin this summer and how they decide to handle the situation could set an example for Jorts/Jordan. With so many strong FA's this summer, so many holes to fill, we only have 3 exemptions to retain/add talent. We have to pick our own poison and spend our money wisely. Trading Fields is probably a realistic option if we can get value, unless, he states he is willing to come back at a discount, which is somewhat a possibility. With Lin and Fields not making much money in their contracts, with the way they are playing, it would be hard for them not to take a guaranteed money in the summer if teams are willing to give them a much favorable contract. We might have to use our MLE, with it split between Fields and Lin, but with so many FA's this summer. Is it really worth it for the those players and the Knicks? Vs adding possible players like

Nash
Dragic

Camby
Bass

Delfino/Ilsonova
Parker
Shannon Brown

not to mention KG, Ray Allen, Miller, and many more.

Is it even possible to use our 2.5m mini MLE to extend Lin? If not, I would target either Ak47 or JR Smith with it this year. I would prefer a team option but at this point we have to take whatever we can get. We really might have to consider reshaping our roster with unloading Amare or Melo, with Melo most likely bringing back the most value. But even if so, we still have to spend our money wisely, looking for great players for their level of production to replenish our roster/bench, that fit and compliment our team and philosophy of the coach....