CrushAlot wrote:If you want to give him the year I am fine with that. I see no reason to extend him. The team is not built to play his style. I personally have not been impressed with his entire tenure here. What has he done in NY that makes you think keeping him improves the team for the future?

You don't think one of the so called "big Three" should be traded during the off season to accomdate MDA for even having the balls to take on such a no win situation coming in..

What real coach would want to deal with this organazation after they Tarnish a hall fame(larry brown) coach, didn't bring in the apprpriate players for him, then canned a guy who, basically sat thru your rebuilding process. then when you finally get him his playeys,(in which he had input on every draft, trade, and signing) ang get on track, you trade them away go into starphuck mode, and repeat the process of bloating your cap.

When you hire a a guy to do a job, your suppose to give him the correct tools to be successful.

Suppose you went to work, and you didn't have the right tools to do your job and they just up and fire you cuase they thought you were incompetent..
Some of you have to really think about everything surrounded this guys job, before you start sceaming fire him.. fire him

Running up and down the court jacking up threes isn't a style, nor is it a system.

It's a sketch.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Dantoni doesn't have a style.

Running up and down the court jacking up threes isn't a style, nor is it a system.

It's a sketch.

but you seen it work before..how can you be that against it.

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:If you want to give him the year I am fine with that. I see no reason to extend him. The team is not built to play his style. I personally have not been impressed with his entire tenure here. What has he done in NY that makes you think keeping him improves the team for the future?

You don't think one of the so called "big Three" should be traded during the off season to accomdate MDA for even having the balls to take on such a no win situation coming in..
What real coach would want to deal with this organazation after they Tarnish a hall fame(larry brown) coach, didn't bring in the apprpriate players for him, then canned a guy who, basically sat thru your rebuilding process. then when you finally get him his playeys,(in which he had input on every draft, trade, and signing) ang get on track, you trade them away go into starphuck mode, and repeat the process of bloating your cap.

When you hire a a guy to do a job, your suppose to give him the correct tools to be successful.

Suppose you went to work, and you didn't have the right tools to do your job and they just up and fire you cuase they thought you were incompetent..
Some of you have to really think about everything surrounded this guys job, before you start sceaming fire him.. fire him

CrushAlot wrote:If you want to give him the year I am fine with that. I see no reason to extend him. The team is not built to play his style. I personally have not been impressed with his entire tenure here. What has he done in NY that makes you think keeping him improves the team for the future?

I didn't say we should keep him here in the future. I said we need to find a real coach before parting with him. I don't need Woodson and Mark Jackson types running the Knicks. So far none of the people calling for his head has made one credible suggestion of who would replace him. Phil Jax may be a pipe dream.

go off into the sunset you didn't earn it, but that doesn't matter in your life.

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

anrst wrote:no one feel bad for d'antoni ... if he's canned he won't care ... guys made millions running an offense that's as complex as shoot when you're open, and never killed one brain cell constructing a defense.

go off into the sunset you didn't earn it, but that doesn't matter in your life.

The knicks were still one of the worst defensive teams when Larry brown coach them, what are you saying?

Not quite sure how Brown figures into this. Also, didn't Brown have a pretty good run when he worked for Donnie Walsh as opposed to Isiah Thomas?

The point was that LB was a great defensive coach, but couldn't get it done without legit defensive talent. Great defensive teams have to have talented defensive players somewhere on their roster. If you've got slow and non athletic players it's hard to be a good defensive team no matter how hard you try. Likewise if you really small.

D'Antoni's teams in PHX tho being small and having Nash and STAT up the middle, both terrible defenders, where never bottom half of the league on D. They were middle of the pack defensively, while being top of the league offensively. If MDA had a guy like Tyson, he might have won a title. That's what finally happened for the Mavs.

the main problem is the roster - shallow team, not enough scorers/shooters, no guards whatsoever and its two best players play the same role.

that said, i don't think d'antoni has been flexible enough in his approach. i think they could run more postup offense thru amar'e and melo. inside game wins in the nba and sets up the outside game. you got two primo scorers, yes they can score from the perimeter, but they're also guite good from inside. melo is a beast in the post and amar'e is actually decent in the post.

d'antoni is stubbornly waiting for a PG to come so he can play the way he wants to play. and the knicks are losing losing losing.

i think team management (dolan) probably wants to keep d'antoni thru the end of this season and then bring in phil jackson. but things might go so ugly that mike woodson is the knicks coach by march 1st. not sure mike woodson helps or changes much though. unless he plans on signing a few more guards.

chandler, douglas and shumpert are defensive players. are you telling me those 3 along with melo and stat can't get stops? look, it's not all on mike. the players aren't doing their job either. but enough excuses. everyone must pay, and is the most readily available to take a hit ... that doesn't mean he is the most to blame, the team is poorly constructed, but so are a lot of teams that still find ways to win.

JonsTintedTails wrote:I think D'Antoni is a good coach when he has the right players for his system.

That is the point I and others have also made since day 1, when MDA was hired. We don't have 3 pt shooters who can hit a high %age of shots. Yet we are at the top 1 or 2 in 3 pt shot attempts. Need to get some players who can hit the 3! This is the 4th year of MDA and we still don't have a team that can play his system.

But I also agree that MDA doesn't change his system much to adjust to the strengths of players he has. He does try a little but then reverts back to the 3 pt shot. I do believe taking a lot of open 3's is a good strategy, but only if you have players who can make it. That is why Nash was so important to MDA's success in Phoenix. Nash, besides being a great playmaker and penetrator, was also a great shooter. Every year, Nash was in the top 1 to 3 in 3 pt % as well as at the top in FT%. That is what we are lacking.

MDA won't be here after this year unless we go significantly deep in the playoffs. Dolan isn't going to keep him around. And the way things are going, he may be gone within a week or 2. Woodson would take over.