Bonn1997 wrote:

eViL wrote:

Uptown wrote:First sign of trouble means more trades? How about some stability for a change. Believe it or not we have a good core. Players 1-3 are okay, we just need to add depth and more pieces that fit and can compliment our core. Easier said than done, I know, but its a lot easier to get pieces than it is to get the big piece.

i was one of the guys that was staunchly against trading the farm for Melo. when we finally did, i accepted it and moved on quickly. i gave the team a clean slate and the benefit of the doubt. i guess my patience has run out.

i don't like the style of play at all. it's brutal to watch. if i were the Knicks, i'd get rid of Melo ASAP and try to replenish the roster. i actually think the trade i suggested above is pretty good. granted, it depends on what you think of John Wall. i'm not sure i like him that much as a player, but hey, at this point, beggars can't be choosers.

i was hoping to be wrong about Melo. just like i was hoping to be wrong about Marbury. honestly, Marbury had a greater initial impact. Melo has been poison since we got him. it's just bad vibes. any dude that would be willing to hold his entire team hostage to his own trade demands throughout a half season is not a team player.

Marbury was a better player than Melo. He could at least get other players involved on offense. (He had an f'd up personality and the trade for him was awful.)

To say something as idiotic as this shows that its personal with Melo. Any comments you have about Melo should be taken with a grain of salt.

Uptown wrote:

eViL wrote:

Uptown wrote:First sign of trouble means more trades? How about some stability for a change. Believe it or not we have a good core. Players 1-3 are okay, we just need to add depth and more pieces that fit and can compliment our core. Easier said than done, I know, but its a lot easier to get pieces than it is to get the big piece.

i was one of the guys that was staunchly against trading the farm for Melo. when we finally did, i accepted it and moved on quickly. i gave the team a clean slate and the benefit of the doubt. i guess my patience has run out.

i don't like the style of play at all. it's brutal to watch. if i were the Knicks, i'd get rid of Melo ASAP and try to replenish the roster. i actually think the trade i suggested above is pretty good. granted, it depends on what you think of John Wall. i'm not sure i like him that much as a player, but hey, at this point, beggars can't be choosers.

i was hoping to be wrong about Melo. just like i was hoping to be wrong about Marbury. honestly, Marbury had a greater initial impact. Melo has been poison since we got him. it's just bad vibes. any dude that would be willing to hold his entire team hostage to his own trade demands throughout a half season is not a team player.

First, Melo has accomplished far more than Marbury ever has in his NBA career. Outside of Melo, Stat (whose been a shell of himself to start the season)and Chandler, this team is paper thin. Every other player on this roster is bench fodder. It also doesn't help when the coach plays his best 2 players out of their comfort zones. Melo is a flat-out scorer. Always has been, always will be. You dont ask Bernard King or Adrian Dantley to run point forward. Thats asking for trouble. You dont stop running pick-n-roll with one of the best pick-n-roll PF's in the league, to now have him running off curl screens on the top of the key like he's Ray Allen.

Melo is a closer. You need closers to win in the league (Ask the Heat and Dirk). You can win with Melo if you have the right pieces around him. That Nuggs team that went to the western conf finals was a nice mix of players (and coaches) that can compliment Melo and vice versa.

but Melo is the reason the team is thin. you can't use that as an excuse for him. if he was concerned about winning, wouldn't he have bit the bullet and signed with us outright? looking back, we could have signed him to comparable deal, kept young talent and kept picks if he had not forced a trade.

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

eViL wrote:

Uptown wrote:First sign of trouble means more trades? How about some stability for a change. Believe it or not we have a good core. Players 1-3 are okay, we just need to add depth and more pieces that fit and can compliment our core. Easier said than done, I know, but its a lot easier to get pieces than it is to get the big piece.

i was one of the guys that was staunchly against trading the farm for Melo. when we finally did, i accepted it and moved on quickly. i gave the team a clean slate and the benefit of the doubt. i guess my patience has run out.

i don't like the style of play at all. it's brutal to watch. if i were the Knicks, i'd get rid of Melo ASAP and try to replenish the roster. i actually think the trade i suggested above is pretty good. granted, it depends on what you think of John Wall. i'm not sure i like him that much as a player, but hey, at this point, beggars can't be choosers.

i was hoping to be wrong about Melo. just like i was hoping to be wrong about Marbury. honestly, Marbury had a greater initial impact. Melo has been poison since we got him. it's just bad vibes. any dude that would be willing to hold his entire team hostage to his own trade demands throughout a half season is not a team player.

Marbury was a better player than Melo. He could at least get other players involved on offense. (He had an f'd up personality and the trade for him was awful.)

To say something as idiotic as this shows that its personal with Melo. Any comments you have about Melo should be taken with a grain of salt.

eViL wrote:

OasisBU wrote:How does the draft look this year? If we could get a stud in the top 5 I would consider tanking just to add another impact player to this core. I don't see this team winning the championship this year so it isn't a bad idea - just gotta make sure it lands in the protected area so we dont have to ship the pick off.

I know this team doesn't tank though - we didnt when Yao was coming out or when Lebron came out so why would we do it now?

yeah, i don't think we'll tank. i'm not sure about the draft. someone here is bound to know something.

this season has been such a joke so far. it's the type of thing that could turn me off from the Knicks forever. i've already dropped the Mets. and, arguably, the Knicks have been worse.

You bring up an interesting point. I know everyone on here bleeds orange and blue - but how much can a fan base take? With the Nets moving to Brooklyn, at first I thought it was laughable that there might be people who jump team. Now I am starting to think its a strong possibility.

A lot of moves have backfired on the Knicks this year, including the MSG/TWC blackout. Why should the fan base care if MSG is not on right now? They wanted to jack up the rates because they thought they had a hot ticket and now they suck AGAIN.

Don't get me wrong, I still want them to turn things around but its really frustrating.