EnySpree wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:actually criticizing MDA on the knicks post game tonight. Playing that crap lineup that allowed Houston to break the game open. Saying he is desperate etc. Maybe they got word he is fired after tonight.

Yeah that generally doesn't happen. My stream ended but Hahn tweeted this.

alanhahn Alan Hahn
That was a bizarre quarter. Weird lineup, only 14 points and no timeout during a game-crushing run by Rockets.

D'antoni never calls a time out...he's waiting for Nash to save him.

+1000

His tenure with the Knicks has shown us that he was always one lucky dude who got to ride on Steve Nash's coattails. When you have a genius like Nash running the team for you it's easy. Unfortunately Nash wasn't a defensive genius so his Suns team didn't win a championship.

Nalod wrote:Maybe was right?

We don't need a defensive coach!

seems we did better playing little defense.

Just saying.

Sure...that's it don't play defense. The magic solution. That's what all good teams do. Let's get rid of Tyson Chandler.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:There was a coach many years ago that won 45, 33, and 24 games in three consecutive seasons. Then he won a championship.

D'Antoni won 32, 29 and 42 last year.

The first coach averaged 34 wins in his first three seasons with the team; D'Antoni averaged 34.3 wins over his first three seasons.

If D'Antoni had any type of point guard right now from anywhere in the world that could drop the dimes, this team is winning a championship this year.

The only issue with regard to MDA and Defense has been the players he's had. In PHX where he got this rep for no D, he had Nash and STAT up the middle of his defense. After watching STAT up close don't you think that might have had something to do with the poor D? Still with no real defensive anchor at center and Nash getting beat constantly, his teams were middle of the pack defensively. Now with Tyson and Shump to help the defense is in the top 10.

The only problem we have this year is HORRIBLE offense. I can't blame the coach who has been at or near the top in offense his whole career! Like most things in life it's not a simple answer to why things are this bad. It's a combination of factors all coming together, but it starts with not having a capable PG. Then you can add a very chaotic and short FA period, training camp and preseason. STAT, Melo and TD coming off injury hampered offseason, where they couldn't work on their games all summer. The team lacked depth from the trade and still has no depth.

Now they have to hope to coach up Lin, get better shooting from the perimeter, get STAT the ball in better scoring position, get Melo healthy and back to his best and hope that Baron can get fully healthy and in shape. There's still time to get this thing turned around.

Five Easy Pieces?

nixluva wrote:Now they have to hope to coach up Lin

1. "Coaching-up" is a meaningless term that has little to do with improving during a normal season, let alone a season where there is no time for practice. The only way LIN learns is with minutes. LIN will need to be a quick study and allowed to play through his mistakes. A risky proposition, at best. He is the only guard with the ability to penetrate with his head up. Yes please.

nixluva wrote:get better shooting from the perimeter

2. Not happening. We have high volume/ low production players. We are barely shooting 40 percent as a team. Not that good. Our guards (Shump at 35 percent, Douglas and Bibby at 32%) are redefining the Mendoza line right before our eyes. The marksman is LIN at 44 per cent.

nixluva wrote:get STAT the ball in better scoring position

3. Yeah right. Next.

nixluva wrote:get Melo healthy and back to his best

4. The question is whether what is best for Carmelo is best for the team.

nixluva wrote:hope that Baron can get fully healthy and in shape.

5. Read my lips, Baron Davis is not a solution. A back injury is nothing to play with in the backyard, or the NBA.

nykshaknbake wrote:

Nalod wrote:Maybe was right?

We don't need a defensive coach!

seems we did better playing little defense.

Just saying.

Sure...that's it don't play defense. The magic solution. That's what all good teams do. Let's get rid of Tyson Chandler.

Well, yeah, add melo....Team degrades.....Add Chandler, Further degradation.

Sarcasm. Desperate for Solutions.

But in real scheme of things, maybe better to play to your strengths then progress from there.

I would appear the is team is ambitious and thats not a bad thing. Its not working, but there are many reasons. Im sure fans know better and better answers.

Better to forge thru with a plan or just play a simplified system by which make fans happier in the short run until Phil Jax comes on board?

Someone is gonna have to get this right and the players will have to respond.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:There was a coach many years ago that won 45, 33, and 24 games in three consecutive seasons. Then he won a championship.

D'Antoni won 32, 29 and 42 last year.

The first coach averaged 34 wins in his first three seasons with the team; D'Antoni averaged 34.3 wins over his first three seasons.

If D'Antoni had any type of point guard right now from anywhere in the world that could drop the dimes, this team is winning a championship this year.

nykshaknbake wrote:So any coach that averages 34 wins will win a championship? What's the point of this story?

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:There was a coach many years ago that won 45, 33, and 24 games in three consecutive seasons. Then he won a championship.

D'Antoni won 32, 29 and 42 last year.

The first coach averaged 34 wins in his first three seasons with the team; D'Antoni averaged 34.3 wins over his first three seasons.

If D'Antoni had any type of point guard right now from anywhere in the world that could drop the dimes, this team is winning a championship this year.

The point is that Doc Rivers had three years of garbage but the Celtics stayed committed and then the good things happened.

You can't keep flip flopping on coaches. Pick one and be ready to have him for 6,8,10 years.

D'Antoni led the Knicks to their first winning season since 200-2001.

sealy wrote:

nixluva wrote:Reading some of these posts is kind of funny. Just last year the team was #2 in scoring and #5 in efficiency when we had Felton and everything was in synch. It all comes apart when you don't have a capable PG. We saw and the Knicks brass saw how badly the team played when Billups went down with injury. I don't believe that they're at the point yet where they would fire MDA. Not before they would get a chance to see what they could do with the full group of Baron, Melo, STAT and Tyson at least. It's still early enough in the season to wait and see how that looks. Besides if they can't get Baron going what difference would it make who is coaching?

You gotta believe that they know MDA is not this bad of a coach. There are some HUGE extenuating circumstances with this season. You all know what they are, but then to add that they don't have a PG on top of that is why this looks this bad.

As frustrating as it is watching this BS, I agree with you. I see no point in firing him before the end of season, unless JAX or JVG is coming here to finish the year. Have less than zero faith in Woodson taking over.

I didn't know this, from Isola:

HOUSTON — If Isiah Thomas, Glen Grunwald and Mike Woodson weren’t college teammates at Indiana more than three decades ago, Mike D’Antoni would still be justified feeling threatened that those three were spotted together on Thursday in Miami.

But the dinner party at a trendy South Beach restaurant, which the Daily News has learned included several Garden employees, certainly raises eyebrows with D’Antoni fighting for his job and struggling to keep the Knicks from imploding. From all indications, D’Antoni is not in immediate danger of being dismissed as coach. Management appears to be willing to give him a chance to salvage the season with a healthy Baron Davis, who could return for Tuesday’s home game against Detroit.

http://Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/mike-antoni-job-safe-ny-knicks-turn-a-hurry-article-1.1013559#ixzz1kpGEtuli

"We all know what's going on," one team executive said recently. "Who can't see the handwriting on the wall? When you're paying guys that kind of money, the coach who's not winning games always goes before the players. That's anywhere, but especially in a market like New York. There are no surprises here."