Lakers will likely go hard after Howard. Unless they feel better keeping Bynum.

LA
Mavs
NY
Nets(if they get Howard)

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Dwight Howard is likely going to end up in Brooklyn and Deron will stay.

Howard would literally be "The MAN" in Brooklyn. 4 Superstars in NYC would be awesome.

Howard doesn't't like cold weather

then why is Nets one of his chosen destinations?

I have no idea, it makes no sense to me either.

I think it has to do with your assumption about Howard and cold weather, which is probably not correct.

I was referring to one of his quotes from last year.

man, take the next logical step: I guess it don't much matter to him.

Touche

loweyecue wrote:

martin wrote:

ATrain wrote:

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Knicksfan wrote:I thought Amar'e was untouchable. His "Knicks are back" was poised to be the start of a great story for us.

It has all come crashing down and right now I couldn't care less about them. Trade Amar'e and anybody else necessary for Deron.

I literally doubt Jersey would even entertain Amare for Deron. If I'm the Knicks I trade Amare so quick.... his lack of explosiveness is frightening.

Yep but who is really going to take on his contract?

if it were Amare of last year, lots, but I think not any more.

Trades made due to emotional reasons are frustration are exactly what we should avoid. Selling low because we can't bear the pain of our own decisions will make it worse. Nothing good comes out of this.

oh for sure. But if I could get reasonable return for Amare, like a rugged, defending PF who could hit the occasional outside shot along with some key bench play, I would do it.

I just have seen too much non-effort on defense from Amare. No boxing out. Rebounding occasionally.

He can be good for deep playoffs with surrounding cast, but I want more.

I see Chandler and Melo as 2 peices that potentially could be part of something special. Your center/defender and your closer. 2 things every championship team needs.

martin wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

martin wrote:

ATrain wrote:

martin wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:I thought Amar'e was untouchable. His "Knicks are back" was poised to be the start of a great story for us.

It has all come crashing down and right now I couldn't care less about them. Trade Amar'e and anybody else necessary for Deron.

I literally doubt Jersey would even entertain Amare for Deron. If I'm the Knicks I trade Amare so quick.... his lack of explosiveness is frightening.

Yep but who is really going to take on his contract?

if it were Amare of last year, lots, but I think not any more.

Trades made due to emotional reasons are frustration are exactly what we should avoid. Selling low because we can't bear the pain of our own decisions will make it worse. Nothing good comes out of this.

oh for sure. But if I could get reasonable return for Amare, like a rugged, defending PF who could hit the occasional outside shot along with some key bench play, I would do it.

I just have seen too much non-effort on defense from Amare. No boxing out. Rebounding occasionally.

He can be good for deep playoffs with surrounding cast, but I want more.

I see Chandler and Melo as 2 peices that potentially could be part of something special. Your center/defender and your closer. 2 things every championship team needs.

Yes his lack of effort has been hard to watch. But we paid this guy 100 mil. Knowing he never really tries on defense for any duration. Now to trade him for a bunch of spare parts will be a panic move. It takes descipline to build anything to trades. Donnie had the descipline. It also doesn't happen quickly. But building through trades mean you know what you are getting. Building through the draft means you sit around and suck ass waiting to get lucky. Unless you "trade" for lottery picks in a very strong draft. Even then there is a lot of luck involved.

Amare was the first step to a roster overhaul. W/o that signing we would still be a33 win team made with spare parts. I don't mind trading him, I do mind the approach of deciding to trade him first within some arbitrary timeframe and then rationalizing some broken down garbage offer from some team is the best we can get. Never trade out of desperation.

knicks1248 wrote:I would give them melo in a heart beat..its a win for everyone...the nets get melo like they always want , no one has to move...and Howard n melo is better then Amare and melo...

Oh great. We give up all our depth, our youth, our home grown talent...to land Melo. Then we trade him for a guy we could have gotten for half as much? Doubtful I could stay a Knicks fan with that sort of ineptness.

loweyecue wrote:Yes his lack of effort has been hard to watch. But we paid this guy 100 mil. Knowing he never really tries on defense for any duration. Now to trade him for a bunch of spare parts will be a panic move. It takes descipline to build anything to trades. Donnie had the descipline. It also doesn't happen quickly. But building through trades mean you know what you are getting. Building through the draft means you sit around and suck ass waiting to get lucky. Unless you "trade" for lottery picks in a very strong draft. Even then there is a lot of luck involved.

Amare was the first step to a roster overhaul. W/o that signing we would still be a33 win team made with spare parts. I don't mind trading him, I do mind the approach of deciding to trade him first within some arbitrary timeframe and then rationalizing some broken down garbage offer from some team is the best we can get. Never trade out of desperation.

I think you and I are inline; for me it wouldn't be a panic move and I'd make sure to get value. I am just saying that I have seen enough to make a long term conclusion about his play. I'd look for a Grant Hill to Orlando move where I get Rip Hamilton and Ben Wallace back. That's the move I'm looking for.