Knixkik wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

misterearl wrote:"Interesting to look at but not a very intriguing team."

You telling me that Ray Felton and Iman Shumpert would not be fun to watch?

Tyson Chandler and David Lee having each other's back?

I think it would be a fun team that would never win it all... I really think you need one go to guy in the NBA

This is exactly my point. When i say interesting to look at i mean fun to watch. But it simply would not be a team that would ever be prepared to go deep into the playoffs. You need stars to win championships in this league.

G Iman Shumpert

F Danilo Gallinari

F Amare Stoudemire

C Tyson Chandler

6 Wilson Chandler

7 Landry Fields

8 Toney Douglas

9 Shawne Williams

10 Anthony Randolph

11 Timofey Mozgov

12 Jared Jeffries

That's probably enough resources to be able to pull off a trade for Dwight too

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

misterearl wrote:"Interesting to look at but not a very intriguing team."

You telling me that Ray Felton and Iman Shumpert would not be fun to watch?

Tyson Chandler and David Lee having each other's back?

I think it would be a fun team that would never win it all... I really think you need one go to guy in the NBA

This is exactly my point. When i say interesting to look at i mean fun to watch. But it simply would not be a team that would ever be prepared to go deep into the playoffs. You need stars to win championships in this league.

What about this team, which most likely we could have had?

G Raymond Felton

G Iman Shumpert

F Danilo Gallinari

F Amare Stoudemire

C Tyson Chandler

6 Wilson Chandler

7 Landry Fields

8 Toney Douglas

9 Shawne Williams

10 Anthony Randolph

11 Timofey Mozgov

12 Jared Jeffries

That's probably enough resources to be able to pull off a trade for Dwight too

Exactly.

But that would have required Dolan trusting Donnie Walsh to complete his masterpiece.

Makes you wanna holla don't it?

Knixkik wrote:

misterearl wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

misterearl wrote:"Interesting to look at but not a very intriguing team."

You telling me that Ray Felton and Iman Shumpert would not be fun to watch?

Tyson Chandler and David Lee having each other's back?

I think it would be a fun team that would never win it all... I really think you need one go to guy in the NBA

This is exactly my point. When i say interesting to look at i mean fun to watch. But it simply would not be a team that would ever be prepared to go deep into the playoffs. You need stars to win championships in this league.

What about this team, which most likely we could have had?

G Raymond Felton

G Iman Shumpert

F Danilo Gallinari

F Amare Stoudemire

C Tyson Chandler

6 Wilson Chandler

7 Landry Fields

8 Toney Douglas

9 Shawne Williams

10 Anthony Randolph

11 Timofey Mozgov

12 Jared Jeffries

That's probably enough resources to be able to pull off a trade for Dwight too

Exactly.

But that would have required Dolan trusting Donnie Walsh to complete his masterpiece.

Makes you wanna holla don't it?

Still rather have what we do now. That's a nice well-rounded team but wouldn't ever be a contender. The right supporting cast will take time, but if we do that we are a contender. Only if that team you mentioned gets another star would it ever be one.

I think one aspect is if you let it gel more the "assets" get more valuable and thus "Stars" cost less.

By getting melo we excluded Paul, but more important Dwight who is a once in a generation type talent.

Common thought was "how many stars shake loose over time"? "GOtta get melo cuz who knows?"

Who is complaining now anyway? The instant gratification crowd or the ones preaching patience.

Reality is we don't have the depth to go all the way at the moment.

The other reality is gotta let this team go thru the growing pains

Knixkik wrote:

misterearl wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

misterearl wrote:"Interesting to look at but not a very intriguing team."

You telling me that Ray Felton and Iman Shumpert would not be fun to watch?

Tyson Chandler and David Lee having each other's back?

I think it would be a fun team that would never win it all... I really think you need one go to guy in the NBA

This is exactly my point. When i say interesting to look at i mean fun to watch. But it simply would not be a team that would ever be prepared to go deep into the playoffs. You need stars to win championships in this league.

What about this team, which most likely we could have had?

G Raymond Felton

G Iman Shumpert

F Danilo Gallinari

F Amare Stoudemire

C Tyson Chandler

6 Wilson Chandler

7 Landry Fields

8 Toney Douglas

9 Shawne Williams

10 Anthony Randolph

11 Timofey Mozgov

12 Jared Jeffries

That's probably enough resources to be able to pull off a trade for Dwight too

Exactly.

But that would have required Dolan trusting Donnie Walsh to complete his masterpiece.

Makes you wanna holla don't it?

Still rather have what we do now. That's a nice well-rounded team but wouldn't ever be a contender. The right supporting cast will take time, but if we do that we are a contender. Only if that team you mentioned gets another star would it ever be one.

misterearl wrote:Why It Works
(an open double dog dare for a rebuttal)

G Raymond Felton - energetic and tough as nails, a blue collar New York (UNC) mentality of a winner
G Iman Shumpert - be still my heart....barking orders on offense already, damn

F Danilo Gallinari - the young chicks pick and the old queens dream, chicks dig the three ball, just hitting his stride with production
F Amare Stoudemire - heart and soul, no need to hoist three's with Gallo on the set
C Tyson Chandler - bouncy and knows what it takes to be a champion, barking orders on defense

6 Wilson Chandler - The Mayor rebounds and astounds... and will dunk in your grill without any emotion
7 Landry Fields - much better running with gazelles than walking upcourt with solo acts
8 Toney Douglas - get that shoulder looked at son

9 Shawne Williams - extra is is sorely missed and the feeling is probably mutual
10 Anthony Randolph - give him 15 minutes and stand back
11 Timofey Mozgov - a painful loss, he brought muscle and hustle
12 Jared Jeffries - comic relief and perimeter defense on three's

The main thing is that this crew of under 30's would jell as a TEAM. What does that mean?

They become GREATER than the sum of their individual talents. One on one play is discouraged and they ALL become "go to" guys in the clutch.

Unselfish basketball. Better health. Stability. Continuity.

Sign me up.

i totally agree, as great as Melo is, that team would play so unselfishly and as a unit, would be hard to stop.
Everyone will be more motivated to run, set screens, WORK THE BALL UNSELFISHLY, and TAKE GOOD SHOTS.
As majority of the plays will be run though Amare and he has no problem working the ball when he knows he is the 1st option.
Amare feels a need to put up some stats when we are down and that is when he does that 1v1 thing that kills chemistry.
We would be a tweak of Denver, Philly, and last years Dallas...

misterearl wrote:Why It Works
(an open double dog dare for a rebuttal)

G Raymond Felton - energetic and tough as nails, a blue collar New York (UNC) mentality of a winner
G Iman Shumpert - be still my heart....barking orders on offense already, damn

F Danilo Gallinari - the young chicks pick and the old queens dream, chicks dig the three ball, just hitting his stride with production
F Amare Stoudemire - heart and soul, no need to hoist three's with Gallo on the set
C Tyson Chandler - bouncy and knows what it takes to be a champion, barking orders on defense

6 Wilson Chandler - The Mayor rebounds and astounds... and will dunk in your grill without any emotion
7 Landry Fields - much better running with gazelles than walking upcourt with solo acts
8 Toney Douglas - get that shoulder looked at son

9 Shawne Williams - extra is is sorely missed and the feeling is probably mutual
10 Anthony Randolph - give him 15 minutes and stand back
11 Timofey Mozgov - a painful loss, he brought muscle and hustle
12 Jared Jeffries - comic relief and perimeter defense on three's

The main thing is that this crew of under 30's would jell as a TEAM. What does that mean?

They become GREATER than the sum of their individual talents. One on one play is discouraged and they ALL become "go to" guys in the clutch.

Unselfish basketball. Better health. Stability. Continuity.

Sign me up.

This I would take in a heart beat.

That said - I think Melo is our best scorer in the post since Ewing. I think Melo is the kind of player you can build a championship squad around. He's a true go-to scorer. Amar'e is not that guy. Felton is not that guy. Gallo is not that guy.

You can say "maybe they would develop into that guy..." and nixluva will probably tell you he thinks Iman is that guy. But I don't know - I've watched bball for over 20 years now and some guys are just born with it.

Melo is one of those guys. He has "it".

And he's ours now. You could second guess this team all the way back to where we have a frontline of Ron Artest / Nene / Marcus Camby playing behind Sprewell and Houston.

Let's just appreciate what we have - one of the most uniquely unstoppable scorers in the league. And a guy you can legitimately build a championship squad around.

Key point about that "Dream" squad you assembled? The best three guys on it are arguably Amar'e, Tyson and Iman. And they're all still here. So are Landry and Toney and Jeffries. And we have Melo, who is the best guy on the team.

And they have Baron, who is a better point guard than Felton (Felton who I loved and had to talk folks into even giving a chance here)... but Baron is better.

So the current team may be just as good and probably better than your dream squad.

And for all your talk of move the ball - did Gallo ever have a game with 6 assists? or 7 assists? did he throw lobs to anyone? ever? Melo does all that while scoring 27ppg and carrying the lead home safely.

Enjoy what they have. This can be a special season.

misterearl wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Donnie Walsh "I Had A..." (perfect hindsight) Dream Team

G Raymond Felton

G Iman Shumpert

F Danilo Gallinari

F David Lee

C Timofey Mozgov

6 Wilson Chandler

7 Landry Fields

8 Toney Douglas

9 Jared Jeffries

10 Anthony Randolph

Not bad.

But we know it could never happen.

Not bad but no overly good either. Our team today is much better than that team would have ever been.

Just for Kicks and Giggles:

G Raymond Felton

G Iman Shumpert

F Danilo Gallinari

F David Lee

C Tyson Chandler, who signs for a chance to play on Broadway, with a dynamic bunch of yoots

6 Wilson Chandler

7 Landry Fields

8 Toney Douglas

9 Shawne Williams

10 Anthony Randolph

11 Timofey Mozgovi

12 Jared Jeffries

Wasn't lee involved in a sign and trade for AR...no way we had both him and gallo since they were in the same draft

misterearl wrote:"Interesting to look at but not a very intriguing team."

Tyson Chandler and David Lee having each other's back?

Yes, I could see this working out:

Ty! Ty! pick me up!!! [Tyson rotates for the vicious block as DLee runs the other way on the wing for a break]

D! D! D! Helpside! Helpside! D!... D? D?... WTF, D? [Tyson looks around the arena as DLee runs the other way on the wing for the inbounds pass]

This sentence is as insipid as the entire concept of comparing a one trick, No-D dunk poster child (Although I give Gallo cred for not running away from posterization) to the best backcourt rookie PG prospect we've had since Clyde. (MJax being another species.)

Please let the dreams of untrade stupidity die now! Occupy Denver must stop!

CashMoney wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Donnie Walsh "I Had A..." (perfect hindsight) Dream Team

G Raymond Felton

G Iman Shumpert

F Danilo Gallinari

F David Lee

C Timofey Mozgov

6 Wilson Chandler

7 Landry Fields

8 Toney Douglas

9 Jared Jeffries

10 Anthony Randolph

Not bad.

But we know it could never happen.

Not bad but no overly good either. Our team today is much better than that team would have ever been.

reallY?

that team we saw tonight?