holfresh wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

holfresh wrote:Screw DHoward the immature shet...STAT revived this franchise and for that I'll be loyal...STAT and Chandler are mature dudes...We all see how immature shets do in NY...We can win without DHoward and dumping down the ball to make him happy...Also with Turk's contact, it's like we have a big three with only two players for the next three years at least..Can't really add pieces...No thanks...We are a PG away from scaring the heck out of Miami...Stay the course...

Melo and Dwight complement each other, unlike Amar'e and Melo. This means that you get more bang for the buck from both Dwight and Melo.

You're suffocating both Melo and Amar'e right now with this combination; with Dwight-Melo, you're letting them breathe.

There is no loyalty here. We're not the Spurs or Mavericks; ask Little Ray Felton.

How does two post up/iso players compliment each other??

Melo makes it rain and Howard works exclusively in the paint. If Melo slashes, he can dish it for the slam, if Howard bangs, he can toss it out for the spot-up rain; we saw how Melo is when he spots up. If Melo slashes, misses, Howard slams it again.

And this Amare revived the franchise. Fellas we don't have a playoff win. We are a .500 team. Amare looked around and took the biggest pay day he could. No team had money like that to throw at him especially with no insurance. He came to NY to grow his brand, increase his profile and make money off the court. I love the guys swagger and he was the perfect guy to build around had we not went all in with Melo. But, we did. These guys don't have the games to play together. It's isolation basketball which stunts the offense for everyone else. We don't have Gallo, Chandler, Felton on the wings for Amare to kick it too.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Nalod wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

Nalod wrote:Media brings it up cuz he is from Florida but article brings up his contract not being insured.

Orlando would want more than Amare. Makes for good reading but not logical.

Give them Tyson.

Amare and Tyson for Howard and TurkeyGlue?

Pound for pound Howard is a nice upgrade over Tyson but Hedo is a big loss compared to Amare.

Im not sure that trade makes us better.

Howard is a "Nice" upgrade over Tyson? Really? You can't be serious. He is leaps and bounds better than chandler (and I love Tyson)

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Let me put it this way: Amar'e goes to Orlando and what happens to him? He goes the way of Shareef Abdul Raheem; he's the type of star that deceives you at his peak, but when you are sober in the morning you look back and say "hmm, really, he wasn't as awesome as we hyped him to be at the time". But when you are sober and all is said and done, you will say about Howard "hmm, that guy was a legend".

This is the difference.

As far as Howard saying he's not leaving 100% this season, that's just talk. He made it known that he will not be in Orlando next season; how this plays out is not up to him at this point.

Comparing Amare to Abdul Raheem is an insult to Amare and the intelligence of the posters here.

Tell me what teams has he led to the playoffs....or has Shariff ever even seen the playoffs. Tell me, what franchise has he returned to relevance like Amare did to NY???? Once again that comparison is turible as Barkely likes to say.

DurzoBlint wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Let me put it this way: Amar'e goes to Orlando and what happens to him? He goes the way of Shareef Abdul Raheem; he's the type of star that deceives you at his peak, but when you are sober in the morning you look back and say "hmm, really, he wasn't as awesome as we hyped him to be at the time". But when you are sober and all is said and done, you will say about Howard "hmm, that guy was a legend".

This is the difference.

As far as Howard saying he's not leaving 100% this season, that's just talk. He made it known that he will not be in Orlando next season; how this plays out is not up to him at this point.

Comparing Amare to Abdul Raheem is an insult to Amare and the intelligence of the posters here.

Tell me what teams has he led to the playoffs....or has Shariff ever even seen the playoffs. Tell me, what franchise has he returned to relevance like Amare did to NY???? Once again that comparison is turible as Barkely likes to say.

42-40 was a good year compared to the last Knicks decade, but it's barely relevant. He's closer to Shareef than you think.

Phoenix won 54 games, the second seed, and 2 games in the Conference Finals without Amar'e.

ChuckBuck wrote:Come on now! Abdur Raheem, are you kiddin me?

adbul Raheem was the best player on an woefully aweful team. When traded to a halfway decent team, his numbers plummetted.

Amare came to New York with the reputation of being a product of Steve Nash's brilliance. He proved that not only could he thrive without Nash but was taking NY to the play offs for the first time in a decade. How the hell does that compare to Abdul Raheem who never played a relevant game in the NBA???

Did he (adul raheem) ever return a team to prominence???

Shareef's real claim to fame was constantly getting his shot blocked

The Team we have now can be very dangerous..lets improve our role players and bench and sit back.

FoeDiddy wrote:I like our team now...can we have a 2 year period of a consistent team already..I'm tired of the they need time to gel phase.

The Team we have now can be very dangerous..lets improve our role players and bench and sit back.

I'm just saying you don't pass up a shot at Dwight.

I would say what you are saying about dealing for Melo, but for Dwight it's a different story. He is in a different zipcode.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:I like our team now...can we have a 2 year period of a consistent team already..I'm tired of the they need time to gel phase.

The Team we have now can be very dangerous..lets improve our role players and bench and sit back.

I'm just saying you don't pass up a shot at Dwight.

I would say what you are saying about dealing for Melo, but for Dwight it's a different story. He is in a different zipcode.

if it happened...I would not be mad at all. I just feel a loyalty to the guy who, wanted to be here from day one and had the star power and ability to drag us back to relevance. We were playoff bound before the Melo trade which, was just icing on the cake but, Amare was the one that allowed us Knick fans to no only wear team gear with pride but, it killed the heckles out of state fans like myself always had to deal with.

I will likely always have a soft spot in my heart for Amare.

DurzoBlint wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:I like our team now...can we have a 2 year period of a consistent team already..I'm tired of the they need time to gel phase.

The Team we have now can be very dangerous..lets improve our role players and bench and sit back.

I'm just saying you don't pass up a shot at Dwight.

I would say what you are saying about dealing for Melo, but for Dwight it's a different story. He is in a different zipcode.

if it happened...I would not be mad at all. I just feel a loyalty to the guy who, wanted to be here from day one and had the star power and ability to drag us back to relevance. We were playoff bound before the Melo trade which, was just icing on the cake but, Amare was the one that allowed us Knick fans to no only wear team gear with pride but, it killed the heckles out of state fans like myself always had to deal with.

I will likely always have a soft spot in my heart for Amare.

I'm with you on that. He did make it happen. But we starphuck, that's a reality. And if we will starphuck, you do this for Howard. I don't see any overwhelming reason to arrest our mode of operation over Amar'e.

Many fans enjoyed Little Ray Felton. Loyalty isn't a big concern here, unless you're talking Isiah Thomas.