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Mike is clearly out of it... Time for both parties to move on.
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nyk4ever
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1/11/2012  11:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2012  11:31 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I think when Amare was the lone alpha dog he kept the guys focused and listening to D'Antoni. I don't know that Melo every truly embraced. D'Antoni seems to have the most success when his best player is in his corner, communicating his message in the lockerroom and on the floor. I think the team is Melo's now and I don't think he is going to do that for D'antoni.

Where do you come up with this?

You ever been to a practice? In the locker room? Or blind hate for MDA and fabricated ideas to promote it?

You can hate MDA all you want, just keep it relevant.

Did you copy Martin's earlier posts when he asked me about attending practice? I haven't been to practice or in the locker room. How about you? If I quote someone or relate a personal experience I will try to make it easy for you to understand. If I am sharing my opinion based on what I have observed, heard or read, I will write things like, "I think" or, "in my opinion'. If you need clarification just ask.

the thing is, you are coming up with theories, opinions, whatever that are based on nothing and could only really be based on what you see or hear in practice. Otherwise it's just you spewing caca, which is in turn read as blind hate for MDA.

As long as we are clear that you and I and Nalod are not insiders that attend practice or are in the lockerroom I am good. Also, you have posted that you don't need 'sources' or to quote others and that your opinions and observations are enough to defend your point of view. If someone can't write their opinion on a sports forum then I think there is something wrong.

here's the thing: your opinions aren't even based off of anything fathomable, and therein lies the difference.

In some instances sources aren't necessary, like this: Chandler is a leader for the Knicks. You can see it and feel it without having anyone to tell you. The stuff you are trying to eek out is not that way.

We have been through this before. When I post quotes from some players or some writers you also claim they are wack @ss. I agree that we are on different sides of the fence about the coach. I don't post things without a reason or a basis for my opinion. In the past when I have backed up my opinions with quotes or articles you have labeled them not credible even if they are guys that you 'respect'. I read and watch as much as I can about the Knicks, basketball and this coach. I don't make things up and I am not trying to drum things up about the coach. I also said it was my opinion when I first responded to Nalod.

crush, i enjoy your posts dude. we don't agree much, but i enjoy your contribution on this forum. i although do agree with martin and nalod on the fact that alot of times when i see you posting things which relate to d'antoni, there never seems to be any backing up. or maybe you'll rely on a quote from amar'e in phoenix in 2007 and apply it to today, or something like that. honestly to me, it just seems like you dislike d'antoni and don't really have any interest in being fair towards him.

just sayin - that's the way it appears when reading your posts in regards to him.

it's kinda like nixluva. love the dude. he's as passionate of a fan as you're going to find. you can never ever ever ever question his allegiance to this team. but with that he is never ever ever ever partial when it comes to the knicks. i know to expect that when reading his posts.

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Nalod
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1/11/2012  12:50 PM
Crush, you can post what you want when you want it.

So if you can't back up certain things then its just your own sensationalist crap.

when it comes to MDA you are making crap up and getting called out on it.

When its not crap, or an opinion based on an observation or a statistic then its subjective.

You take liberties.

Lets break it down:

CrushAlot wrote:
"I think when Amare was the lone alpha dog he kept the guys focused and listening to D'Antoni." This would be a subjective opinion.

"I don't know that Melo every truly embraced. D'Antoni" Based on what? were is this coming from? Find a quote? A statistic that back this up?

"seems to have the most success when his best player is in his corner, communicating his message in the lockerroom and on the floor": Ok, one can say that about EVERY COACH IN ANY LEAGUE AT ANY LEVEL FROM THE HISTORY OF SPORTS, WARFARE OR ANY OTHER HUMAN ACTIVITY INVOLVING A GROUP OF PEOPLE TRYING TO ACCOPLISH A SINGLE FEAT!

"I think the team is Melo's now and I don't think he is going to do that for D'antoni"....THis is utter crap. Melo is statistically doing very well this season. He has verbally backed his team and yet to throw anyone under the bus. He is getting his touches and in some areas it seems MDA got him playing some of his best ball of his career this season. Last season they were trying to figure it out on the fly.

I see MElo integrating Tyson in the offense and being very effective, he has verbally embraced and supported the Rookie Shump and seems to be getting better with Amare. I am seeing progress in spurts.

I see a team that is finding its way. They will have bad nites, missed assignments/execution and the coach will get pissed.

And if MDA goes, another coach will have to do the same.

Nothing personal, but usually your opinions outside of MDA are good whether I agree with it or not. But when it comes to MDA
your posts are usually garbage and not valid points.

Nobody said you have to like the guy, but you have to have some basis than fabricated lockerroom wishful thinking.

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1/11/2012  2:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2012  2:01 PM
Arkrud coming with the lighter fluid. Nice.
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nixluva
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1/11/2012  2:23 PM
I may have the most positive posts, but I try to back up my position with statements of fact. Someone can disagree, but it's not just my opinion every time and conjecture. I literally put work into supporting my positions. I just don't comment as much on the things I don't like so everyone assumes that I like everything about the Knicks, which isn't true.

I don't like Walker, Don't like the substitution patterns, not a big fan of Melo actually bringing the ball up since I think it's not necessary and is extra wear on his body and doesn't really improve the offense. I don't like the fact that they let Shawne go rather than give him a better contract offer.

I was never a big fan of Bibby and would've preferred a younger player that could defend and breakdown a D. I'd like to see Lin get more of a shot. I'd like to see the team come out aggressive on D early, maybe use traps and take the ball out of the hands of the other teams PG to break up their rhythm early in games. I think they could use the curl play more often rather than ISO for Melo and STAT and also Fields and Iman. The Curl is a much better rhythm shot.

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1/11/2012  2:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2012  2:57 PM
nixluva wrote:I may have the most positive posts, but I try to back up my position with statements of fact. Someone can disagree, but it's not just my opinion every time and conjecture. I literally put work into supporting my positions. I just don't comment as much on the things I don't like so everyone assumes that I like everything about the Knicks, which isn't true.

I don't like Walker, Don't like the substitution patterns, not a big fan of Melo actually bringing the ball up since I think it's not necessary and is extra wear on his body and doesn't really improve the offense. I don't like the fact that they let Shawne go rather than give him a better contract offer.

I was never a big fan of Bibby and would've preferred a younger player that could defend and breakdown a D. I'd like to see Lin get more of a shot. I'd like to see the team come out aggressive on D early, maybe use traps and take the ball out of the hands of the other teams PG to break up their rhythm early in games. I think they could use the curl play more often rather than ISO for Melo and STAT and also Fields and Iman. The Curl is a much better rhythm shot.

That's great - keep going with that. Get it all off your chest - you will feel so much better. It's not good to hold this stuff inside too long.

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Mike is clearly out of it... Time for both parties to move on.

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