Nalod wrote:Stars don't bring championships but you need them win them.

Not all stars are champions.

Amare-Melo combo is a stupid starphuck.

We would have been better with:

Gallo
Amare
Chandler-Mozgov
Fields
Felton

And with the picks we gave away, and Randolph we still retained assets to do a trade.

Maybe its for Deron willioms, maybe we had the juice for Paul.

No, the team at the time of MeloDrama was not championship caliber, but neither is it with melo and a thin roster.

Fear of the future. Perhaps we were better, maybe not.

Maybe we just need to let this team get it together instead of projecting failure.

Dude!!! Are you ever going to let this go?! Stop banging your head against the same wall, open your eyes and realize a new door was opened and sealed shut behind. No turning back.

Bippity10 wrote:I'm a Carmelo fan but not sure he was the best fit for this team. I think the young guys were going to get traded for a star eventually I just would have picked someone else. With the success that D'Antoni had with Amare and Nash why would you not try to emulate that here in NY by holding out for Williams or Paul instead of trading for Carmelo and having a pairing(two ball stoppers) that does not fit the D'Antoni system. I think Dolan saw Anthony going to the Nets and he panicked and forced the trade. Patience would have been a virtue in my mind. But in NY with everyone calling for firings after every loss there can never be patience.

All that being said, we can still win with the team we have. Unfortunately there are more ifs and hopes with this make up. With the Paul/Amare pairing we would know exactly what we were getting and know we had a coach that could make that type of pairing gel(we saw it with Lee/Duhon and Felton/Amare). Now we have two elite ball stopping scorers working for a coach whose offense is designed around ball movement. We need our coach to figure it out and adapt or the players. It can be done, and after 3 games to be panicking it's ridiculous. But we could also find ourselves 60 games in to this season and finally realize that one of these two stars needs to be traded. I think Baron's leadership(haven't seen enough of him to know if he is a top level leader, his career does not suggest it) will determine our fate in the short run. A strong PG can turn an offense around overnight.

Melo essentially force his way to ny....no one thought we had the talent to make a trade for a super star..but there weren't going to let him go for nothing...MDA needs a pg and this team will be golden...they just look like they never played with each other..kinda like a pick u game

Bippity10 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:I guess you can look at it this way. Carmelo is one of the top pure scorers in the league. Despite this, out of necessity, we are forced to have him run the point. What did we think was going to happen to our offense?

Did you read the forum a week ago?

Yes, but if you wrote it I probably didn't read it

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:Stars don't bring championships but you need them win them.

Not all stars are champions.

Amare-Melo combo is a stupid starphuck.

We would have been better with:

Gallo
Amare
Chandler-Mozgov
Fields
Felton

And with the picks we gave away, and Randolph we still retained assets to do a trade.

Maybe its for Deron willioms, maybe we had the juice for Paul.

No, the team at the time of MeloDrama was not championship caliber, but neither is it with melo and a thin roster.

Fear of the future. Perhaps we were better, maybe not.

Maybe we just need to let this team get it together instead of projecting failure.

Dude!!! Are you ever going to let this go?! Stop banging your head against the same wall, open your eyes and realize a new door was opened and sealed shut behind. No turning back.

Dudde!! Reread the last sentance. I did not start this thread.

With that said, it's way too early to make any definitive conclusions. Anyone remember last season when we started out 3-8? People were saying we messed up free agency and that Felton was an awful PG that exposed D'Antoni for needing a great PG for his system.....anyone remember what happened afterwards?

Give them more time. This is still a brand new team with a brand new PG and it is going to take some time for us to gel just like last season. If we're at game 33 and we still look like this then I will be worried just like the rest of our fans. However, it's still too early to be this concerned after game 3....

VCoug wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Those guys we traded to get Melo weren't taking this team anywhere.

The PG thing is a big issue but this is where D'Antonio needs to earn his check. D'Antoni is getting exposed big time. Dude needs to adapt.

I think we were better set up for the future with what we had

The Felton-Amare combo was close to unstoppable. Amare avg 20 sumthin points, felton 17 and 9.
Gallo and chandler did the rest, and all we needed was a Center. And pre trade we were a dangerous team, now we're a predictable team

Yeah, except for starting the season 3-8. Or the 6 game losing streak in January. Or their 28-26 record just before the trade.

And yes, I didn't like the trade either.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:The six game losing streak before the trade was in large part because of the trade rumors.

You take that team, tell them this is it, we are the team, and they're winning 48 games last year.

And would be a perennial first round exit.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:The six game losing streak before the trade was in large part because of the trade rumors.

You take that team, tell them this is it, we are the team, and they're winning 48 games last year.

If thats the excuse, then the Nuggs get to use the same excuse as to why they struggled before the trade....

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:The six game losing streak before the trade was in large part because of the trade rumors.

You take that team, tell them this is it, we are the team, and they're winning 48 games last year.

And would be a perennial first round exit.

What the hell will this be??

Well, alright, this can still turn out good, so I should not be so negative.