AnubisADL wrote:- Chandler is an offensive reliability because he has no offensive liability of 3 feet from the basket.

Nalod wrote:

BroPez with less burden to carry could focus on defense and rebounding.

BroPez got offensive game. Nene is a good defender when motivated.

Let them figure it out. We got what we needed. Nene is a 4.

BroPez is probably going to get traded anyway for perimeter help.

Nene can play the 4 or 5 too.

AnubisADL wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Neither Nene or Chandler are worth their contracts.

Nene however can provide some offense other than alley oops. One man isnt going to make us a defensive juggernaut. Denver 2 years ago look pretty dam good defensively. Im just saying.

We have seen what playing 4 on 5 does during Jefferies tenure here.

Oh and Im pretty sure we couldn't afford Nene.

Size is always at premium prices, so you can't really say neither is worth their contracts, especially Chandler, who was one of the main reasons the Mavs went from perennial contenders to finally champions. Take Chandler away from that Mavs team and they don't win.

You keep talking about Nene's offense, but like NY, NJ doesn't need offense as much as defense, especially down low with horrible defender Brook Lopez.

Its funny you talk like Chandler like he is an offensive liability like Jeffries when he is FAR from that. The guy has improved consistently in his offense and brings a 10pts average from an already offensively powerful team to another offensively powerful team. Forgot we have Melo and Amar'e on the team?

And please, if we had wanted Nene as our #1 option, he would've been. His price is actually increasing to ridiculous levels only because the Nets no longer have Chandler, their #1 Free Agent option, available.

- Mavs won because Dirk went crazy in the playoffs.

- That is like saying the Heat dont need offense from the center position because they have Bosh, Wade, and Lebron. You ideally want to have offense from all positions other wise teams can trap and double team your scorers. I want the Knicks to be hard to guard.

- Chandler is an offensive liability because he has no offense outside of 3 feet from the basket.

1. To underestimate Chandler's impact on the Mavs ride to the championship, as well as Terry's and Barea's contributions tells me you didn't follow their series well enough. The Mavs triumph over Miami was the classic example that a team, not a star alone, will always come on top.

2. The Heat don't need an offensive minded player at center because their offense runs mainly through LeBron, Wade and Bosh. If you want the Knicks to be unstoppable offensively while still be unable to stop a soul, so be it. But defense is as important as offense and in our case offense hasn't really been the main problem, defense has. Thats why Chandler is such big news for us.

3. The fact is that, unlike your weird vision of Chandler, he isn't an offensively liability. He is in fact a player that will score when needed but at the same time will bring a new aspect to NY we haven't had in a decade: presence in the middle.

Knicksfan wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Neither Nene or Chandler are worth their contracts.

Nene however can provide some offense other than alley oops. One man isnt going to make us a defensive juggernaut. Denver 2 years ago look pretty dam good defensively. Im just saying.

We have seen what playing 4 on 5 does during Jefferies tenure here.

Oh and Im pretty sure we couldn't afford Nene.

Size is always at premium prices, so you can't really say neither is worth their contracts, especially Chandler, who was one of the main reasons the Mavs went from perennial contenders to finally champions. Take Chandler away from that Mavs team and they don't win.

You keep talking about Nene's offense, but like NY, NJ doesn't need offense as much as defense, especially down low with horrible defender Brook Lopez.

Its funny you talk like Chandler like he is an offensive liability like Jeffries when he is FAR from that. The guy has improved consistently in his offense and brings a 10pts average from an already offensively powerful team to another offensively powerful team. Forgot we have Melo and Amar'e on the team?

And please, if we had wanted Nene as our #1 option, he would've been. His price is actually increasing to ridiculous levels only because the Nets no longer have Chandler, their #1 Free Agent option, available.

I agree with that last paragraph, and I also agree that neither guy is actually worth the contract that he signed. The prices only show the pathetic state of the center in today's league and how rare a guy with size actually is. For further proof, look at Eddy Curry signing with Miami. Good centers who can defend and rebound and who are tall are so rare that a guy who's seven feet tall and who can breathe will be overpaid. Power forward is where the elite post game is right now, and that makes Stat really important.

I don't agree that we should have signed Nene instead of Chandler or that Chandler isn't a better fit for the Knicks. In a vacuum Nene is a slightly better player (but it's a margin that's basically so insignificant that nobody should really actually care), but considering the contract lengths, prices, and better fit for the team, Chandler is the better signing by a country mile.

Chandler isn't a great offensive player but he's not here for that and he's not Jared Jeffries, either. Chandler is a guy who will hustle, rebound, play great D in the post and take advantage of whatever limited offensive opportunities he gets. It's a great frontcourt tandem because he can do the things that STAT doesn't do well and STAT does the things well that Chandler doesn't do well.