Childs2Dudley wrote:When Mike D'Antoni is fired and Woodson is the new coach, nixluva will then make posts like this defending the record of Woodson. And so on and so forth.

Coach's aren't the end all be all of how successful your team is. The talent on your team is the most important thing. How well that talent fits together is also very important. You could switch coaches on the best teams and likely not much would change in the fortunes of those teams. Was Don Chaney or Lenny Wilkins really that bad or did we just not have championship talent for them to coach?

How great is Doc Rivers or Rick Carlisle? Both are more than capable but they need winning talent to get to the top. IMO GM's are more impactful than coaches. A great GM can build and rebuild a franchise into a winning organization and if he's not doing his job no great coach is gonna be able to make up for the lack of talent or a team that doesn't fit together.

I'm defending MDA cuz I think he's more than capable of producing a winner. You have a lot of stupid observations, tell me do you think it was a great job of coaching MDA did on his 2005-06 team? I think it's one of the most underrated coaching jobs a coach has done in recent history. Considering the level of talent in the West. To take a small moderately talented team to the WCF's was a major accomplishment. With no real size that team was 16th in the league in defense and won 54 games. They lost to the Mavs mainly cuz they had no one to match up with Dirk.

Pos. 	Starter 	Bench 	                Reserve 	          Inactive
C 	Boris Diaw 	Kurt Thomas 	        Pat Burke 	          Amar'e Stoudemire Injured
PF 	Shawn Marion 	Brian Grant 	        Nikoloz Tskitishvili 	
SF 	Tim Thomas 	James Jones 		
SG 	Raja Bell 	Leandro Barbosa 		                  Dijon Thompson
PG 	Steve Nash 	Eddie House

dacash wrote:is woodson really that good
will he help that much?

I don't think he's that good, but it can't hurt to have another voice in there urging the players to give a darn on D. Don't look for a coach to make that much difference if we don't get some size inside. If we get some size then I think he will have more success implementing whatever defensive schemes he looks to bring in. He's got to have the horses to make it work. Thing is that he had some unbelievable physical specimens in ATL and they didn't exactly dominate on D. That's not a good sign to me. One thing ATL always had was athletic talent. Still if we can sign a C and get some good play from the other bigs, this team should be better.

I think we're actually looking pretty good on the perimeter. We've got some really capable defenders with Iman, TD, Fields and Williams. If Melo wants to he can also defend, so i'm confident that we can slow teams down a little on the perimeter, so long as they have backup behind them. STAT isn't always present on D, but he can be a very effective help defender. It all comes down to who we sign to play C.

Anji wrote:Wow, the MDA stuff is always fun around here. I personally am not a fan of the roll the ball out, 7 seconds or less, pie in the sky everybody is equal in the offense bull. But looking at this team as what has been achieved versus what is expected or what has he installed, I can't really see how he stays on.

Once this team can defend more consistently, the potency of this offense will lead to more wins.

Anji wrote:I don't see any pedigree or legacy in this team from MDA. I didn't see an offense when Al Harrington was jacking up shots and I didn't see an offense when everybody was watching Stoudimere bull his way to the basket.

Anji wrote:I don't see this great point guard builder either. Inflating Duhons and Feltons stats threw higher usage ratings is only thingI ever really have seen out of the coach that turned Nash in to a League MVP greats floor general in the league. Even a very smart point guard like Billups look like the offense was to jack up a three or pass.

Anji wrote:Some of you guys say he needs great defensive players to play defense, than you think it's a complement to say he had guys would made 1/2 all NBA defense yet he still didn't have very good defensive teams??? How is that proof that need good defenders more than you need coaching, seems like the opposite to me.

Anji wrote:I agree with you partly crush, because he's had his shot with his perfect player types and his great point guard and defensive players that were good offense. But at the end of the day, he never could adjust to win the big series. Didn't matter if it was Popavich, didn't matter if it was Phil, didn't even matter when it was AVER JOHNSON......yeah even AJ as a first year coach was too big of an obstacle to over come. I don't think coach ever becomes good enough to adjust and put his players where they are needed in a big series. I don't believe this coach ever coaches up a team when it is needed the most. The Celtics series was a microcosm of his whole career IMO.

That's why I think most people don't want MDA as a coach going forward.

Nalod wrote:Its been noted in the press that Woody was in consideration to be hired when Chaney was fired.

Isiah got his stink on this hire.

Nothing against Woodson, just his link to Isiah.

Question is do we actually want Woody over MDA?

Is the resurection of Isiah Lord really that far behind?

I really hate the fact that Isiah is still in the background like a weasel. You just always get the feeling that his grubby fingers are on too many decisions Dolan makes. I felt much better with Walsh here but I guess in reality there was only so much authority Walsh had and Dolan still trusted Isiah much more.

Still if they think Woodson is going to be a better option than MDA I just can't understand the rationale. What has Woodson done that would make him a better coach than MDA? I HATED those ATL teams when he was the coach. That was some of the most putrid BB i've ever watched. They had loads of talent, but never really maximized that talent. He did some good things, but that offense was awful. IMO he can handle the D, but stay away from our offense.

loweyecue wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Nalod wrote:Its been noted in the press that Woody was in consideration to be hired when Chaney was fired.

Isiah got his stink on this hire.

Nothing against Woodson, just his link to Isiah.

Question is do we actually want Woody over MDA?

Is the resurection of Isiah Lord really that far behind?

I really hate the fact that Isiah is still in the background like a weasel. You just always get the feeling that his grubby fingers are on too many decisions Dolan makes. I felt much better with Walsh here but I guess in reality there was only so much authority Walsh had and Dolan still trusted Isiah much more.

Still if they think Woodson is going to be a better option than MDA I just can't understand the rationale. What has Woodson done that would make him a better coach than MDA? I HATED those ATL teams when he was the coach. That was some of the most putrid BB i've ever watched. They had loads of talent, but never really maximized that talent. He did some good things, but that offense was awful. IMO he can handle the D, but stay away from our offense.

You calling Isiah a weasel makes my day

As a Knick fans I tried to support the guy for a long time. He really was a huge part of the worst era of BB for this franchise when you factor in the off the court problems. He had a lot of help in making it bad from coaches and players alike, but his oversight was at the top of the heap. Still none of that really was as bad as what he's been doing after his being removed from the team. He's just been doing all kinds of little harmful things. After we finally rid ourselves of all of his handywork and you still get rumors of this guy being involved. Of course he's not the main culprit cuz that falls on DOLAN!!!

We had the perfect guy in here running the BB side of things and Dolan let him walk. Walsh gave this franchise its dignity back and i'll always be thankful to him for his work for the team.