Nalod wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:He's this desperate for quality burn, or is he this desperate for cash? He made $16 million last year. You do the math.

You need to go to Turkey to prove a point? Watch some psycho bruiser low bridge him and end his career.

Stupid.

Don't you see it man? He is fighting against the system and he is obviously, a bad teammate. If he gets bruised by the psycho he becomes the worst teammate because he cannot play. He is leaving his team, the Nets hanging in the wind, waiting to dry, what a crappy teammate. More so, using that logic, you can say that he became a worse PG because he chose to jeopardize his health and therefore he is a bad teammate. As everyone knows, PG is the one position where being a teammate is super important, so him being a bad teammate(by some dumb logic) = him being a worse PG. Him going to a diff league makes him a worse PG.

Nalod, as you might have noticed, I disagree with you and I am using this here to prove to you that you are wrong.

I'll do this one more time.

A player gets injured even if an act of stupidity:

1. He travels with the team and attends practice. He goes to games and is there for pregame and post game. He is at the coaches meetings, watching tape, working with Assistant coaches. He is with the team. He is being paid. He is a teammate. He is in the locker room. He might be yelling encouragement, he is there to cry, laugh, and scream with his team mates.

A suspended player:

1. Is not with the team at all. He is not traveling, not at practice, not exposed to the players, the coaches, coaches meetings, not in the locker room with the other players, he is not learning the new players, not learning with the team.

Why does this matter? Well all players sign a contract which they accept the rules. You know when Spree turned down the 7 mil for 3 years I actually respected him because he finally showed he did not want to do it anymore. That was ok and I wish more players would do that. But when Spree would miss camp because of legal problems, or was delayed driving cross country, or what ever reason it sent a message to other players not positive. They were all in shape ready to go to camp, they had settled any legal problems, transportation problems, or what ever and got there. Tell you what, go to work and maybe there are three of you doing the same job, all getting paid the same. Say one guy is always late, misses meetings, takes random days off....and then cuz he is not up to speed he makes you look bad, or is not prepared, and you have to help him all the time. And again, he gets paid the same as you! How would you feel? Then there is the other guy who got hurt but he is remoting into work, able to listen in on conference calls and up on his e-mails. he is not there but is up on all that is going on. Once he returns his is up to speed on things.

So missing games is one thing. Being a part of the team is another.

If a player has a solid reputation I would imagine one instance is ok. If habitual then its a problem. It can divide your locker room and it effects play when a player is not up on the pulse of the team.

If you don't agree with this, thats ok.

Does not make you a bad poster!

I somehow lost the train of logic that ties the above to playing in Turkey.

Nalod wrote:
Spree=Honey Badger

I sense a deep-seated, primal issue with cornrows. Some type of intervention therapy is definitely called for.

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Spree=Honey Badger

I sense a deep-seated, primal issue with cornrows. Some type of intervention therapy is definitely called for.

Honey Badger don't look like spree! Even if he did, he don't care, he don't give a ****!

Bippity10 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

The old "if your against spree then your racist" bait!

I was once called an uncle tom because I said I preferred Allan HOuston over Spree. I was thorougly confused. Ahh, the good old days

You actually said you preferred Charlie Ward, Earl Monroe, Greg Butler and Hawthorne Wingo over Spree.

And I didn't call you an uncle tom. My exact words were, "...jab stepping, one trick pony, No-D, corporate cog lover."

Obviously there are going to be a lot of great players that don't fit that model. But most of the trouble makers and bad teammates that destroy team chemistry and don't fulfill their potential etc... signal those problems LONG before they actually become professional players.

I want guys like Grant Hill, Landry Fields, Steve Nash, Danilo Gallinari, David Lee, Shane Battier, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli etc.. Those are guys that are going to show up, work their asses off, learn, listen to the coach, and get a little better every year.

Except we can do "you may be a bad teammate if"......

"your team travels to charleston to build chemstry and you miss it without telling anyone"...
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