martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Juice wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I'm real sorry to see Donnie go but I am glad that it means that D'Antoni is probably gone. Adelman might be a good fit but I wouldn't rule out Mark Jackson getting the job. Its Dolan's call. Maybe Donnie wasn't going to get the freedom to run the team the way he wanted, again.

Thanks for making the Knicks relevant again Donnie.

For now I'm happy to hear Allan Houston didn't slide into that interim role. If so then I would be panicking. But in all honesty we need a fresher/newer/more innovative/quick thinking/offensive individual to man this position..... sans Dolan interferring

It would be like that 100 million dollar contract all over again. I like Houston but not as a shot caller. Is Mark Warkentien still with the Knicks? He has a good relationship with Melo, he should be considered for the job.

As for Dolan, he wouldn't give an old pro like Walsh autonomy so I'm not too hopeful that Dolan will come to his senses and let a new GM do his thing.

Devil's advocate: What has anyone heard about a single decision Houston has made in his current role that would suggest he is bad GM material?

Fair question. I haven't heard much from Houston since he retired. What I have heard doesn't really scream GM material. Flipping the script, what has he done to make you believe that he is good GM material? To be honest, I would hire Mark Jackson as GM before Houston. I've heard him talk at length about the game, Jackson is more of a known commodity. I wouldn't put it past Dolan to hire Houston just because he likes him and nothing else.

that's what ESPN was reporting anyway on sportscenter..

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Juice wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I'm real sorry to see Donnie go but I am glad that it means that D'Antoni is probably gone. Adelman might be a good fit but I wouldn't rule out Mark Jackson getting the job. Its Dolan's call. Maybe Donnie wasn't going to get the freedom to run the team the way he wanted, again.

Thanks for making the Knicks relevant again Donnie.

For now I'm happy to hear Allan Houston didn't slide into that interim role. If so then I would be panicking. But in all honesty we need a fresher/newer/more innovative/quick thinking/offensive individual to man this position..... sans Dolan interferring

It would be like that 100 million dollar contract all over again. I like Houston but not as a shot caller. Is Mark Warkentien still with the Knicks? He has a good relationship with Melo, he should be considered for the job.

As for Dolan, he wouldn't give an old pro like Walsh autonomy so I'm not too hopeful that Dolan will come to his senses and let a new GM do his thing.

Devil's advocate: What has anyone heard about a single decision Houston has made in his current role that would suggest he is bad GM material?

Fair question. I haven't heard much from Houston since he retired. What I have heard doesn't really scream GM material. Flipping the script, what has he done to make you believe that he is good GM material? To be honest, I would hire Mark Jackson as GM before Houston. I've heard him talk at length about the game, Jackson is more of a known commodity. I wouldn't put it past Dolan to hire Houston just because he likes him and nothing else.

i am not advocating Houston for anything, so I have nothing to say either way.

Mark Jackson? bleh. A talking head alone does not make an executive.

Not saying Jax should be GM, only that I would pick him over Houston.

Dude is old and his surgeries haven't exactly been minor procedures.

franco12 wrote:I hate Dolan as much as anyone, but why can't this simply be Walsh wanting to get out of the rat race of being in charge of any NBA Franchise and spending time with family.

Dude is old and his surgeries haven't exactly been minor procedures.

Precisely. He is still around as consultant which is good. This is more Walsh wanting out due to health.

Andrew wrote:Who thinks Donnie was over-ruled by Dolan on the Melo trade, and Donnie doesn't want to deal with that type of stuff anymore. I do.

Im kind of on that thought process.

This is not good news as perhaps donnie thinks we don' have the assets now on the roster or the where-with-all to build a true championship team and perhaps thats not DOlans first priority.

The little **** likley is thinking "Gotta raise revenue and pay for the renovation"

Keep him on as "Consultant" to over see the draft, keep him from working elsewhere and keep his mouth shut.

This is not good news as Walsh had a strict order to create a culture of winning and building a team.

Little Jimmy humped the Melo trade and killed the plan. Sure we'll be a good team, but greatness requires patience.

Maybe you can't do that in MSG.

Maybe you can do it in Brooklyn?

Media really talking about Calipari? Really? What can that Starphucher do to attract players when you don't got money to spend? Assets to trade?

We really talking Adelman? Already?

Could Walsh finally say "Screw this" when the "I" word was mentioned? "ISiah?"

One might have to look at it as Dolan thinking "who is this old fool to tell me how to run this team? IT'S MY DAMN TEAM!"

It is Dolans team.

Fear the popcorn man!

Andrew wrote:Glen Grunwald was hired by Isiah.

More depressing stuff...

"The obvious question is whether this move leads to a return by Thomas into power of the Knicks. Thomas was rumored to have been the deciding voice in the Knicks' quest to acquire Carmelo Anthony, prompting Dolan to override Walsh and surrender the house, the car, and the baby stroller to get Melo.

A May 2010 New York Post report indicated that Grunwald's contract was expiring and he may not even return. Now he's in charge of the Knicks' decision making on personnel until a new GM can be put in place. It's possible Grunwald won't have any impact on decision making, in light of the nearly certain lockout on July 1st. By the time the labor dispute is settled, a new regime could be in place. Still, the move reeks of a storm cloud moving in called Isiah.

The decision also stands out as the Knicks have non-Thomas affiliated personnel who could have taken over in Alan Houston, former Nuggets' exeutive Mark Warkentien, and John Gabriel. Grunwald is said to be a shrewd talent evaluator, but his decision history over the last decade leaves quite a bit of concerns."

http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/29762986

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:I hate Dolan as much as anyone, but why can't this simply be Walsh wanting to get out of the rat race of being in charge of any NBA Franchise and spending time with family.

Dude is old and his surgeries haven't exactly been minor procedures.

because if he did want to get out, he would have done so months ago to allow time for the franchise to select new GM; he wouldn't drag it out this long.

Why did Shaq wait so long to call it quits? He could have easily said I'm out right after the season was over but he waited. It takes time to make a decision that will affect your life.

did you really just equate a player's situation to that of a GM?

Donnie started negotiating an extension with the franchise as long as a month ago. Do the math.

Believe what you want, he still not the Knick's GM/President anymore. Its sad that he is gone but we have to move on these things are out of the ordinary fans hand.

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:I hate Dolan as much as anyone, but why can't this simply be Walsh wanting to get out of the rat race of being in charge of any NBA Franchise and spending time with family.

Dude is old and his surgeries haven't exactly been minor procedures.

because if he did want to get out, he would have done so months ago to allow time for the franchise to select new GM; he wouldn't drag it out this long.

Why did Shaq wait so long to call it quits? He could have easily said I'm out right after the season was over but he waited. It takes time to make a decision that will affect your life.

did you really just equate a player's situation to that of a GM?

Donnie started negotiating an extension with the franchise as long as a month ago. Do the math.

Believe what you want, he still not the Knick's GM/President anymore. Its sad that he is gone but we have to move on these things are out of the ordinary fans hand.

a GM like Donnie does not up and call it quits because of health issues that have existed all along after spending months negotiating a next contract. That line of thinking is just stupid.

Sure man whatever want just make shyt up and speculate all you want like you were fly on the wall in the room.

I think Dolan castrated Donnie with the Melo trade. No, the team was not great, but he had a plan. It was a process.

What is the plan now?

Not our business to know. They sell tickets, not insight.