"Did you watch the Knicks in the 90s" is now becoming the excuse for any kind of dirty and dangerous play.

Carmelo yanks Jason Richardson. "Did you watch the Knicks in the 90s?"
Bynum elbows dudes driving down the lane. "Uh.. have you seen the Knicks in the 90s???"

As Tyson Chandler said, there's a difference between playing hard and playing dirty. Bynum's fouls are out of laziness, not toughness.

SupremeCommander wrote:

Anji wrote:I would suspend him for 40 games!!!!

Not really, Big man with a nasty side, would take him in a heart beat. A fine would be fine......

He should get a suspension and a fine, but I won't pretend like I wouldn't take him. He'd fit in fine on this Knicks squad

Vmart wrote:

PresIke wrote:

starks foul was terrible too, but it was at least pretending to look like going for the ball...as andrese states...did bynum even pretend to do anything else but try to hurt barea?

Looked like Starks was going after the ball to me. Actually hit the ball first Pippens head got in the way should have been an offensive foul according to my orange and blue glasses.

Also, watch it again, Johnnie Hoops saw it where Mason also hit Pippen while he was going down. Good times

Vmart wrote:Have people forgot Amare's foul on Bogut?

I don't remember feeling like it was really dirty. The way Bogut landed was bad, but STAT didn't really lay into him. He just lost his balance. STAT couldn't have known he'd fall like that. Bynum KNEW that a sharp elbow to exposed ribs of a guy flying thru the air was gonna do damage. Totally different fouls IMO.

Juice wrote:I wouldn't want Bynum, he's slightly better than the 07' Eddy Curry because he has some defensive presence but he's as close to a zero sum big as it gets. Fans are caught up that he's a 7ft big. Add to the fact he has bad knees, isn't always motivated to play his best, and is inherently a dirty jerk off.... naaaaah I'll pass. The Lakers have had success with or without Bynum. The only way I'd be interested with him involved if it was a 3-Way trade and he got flipped somewhere else while we got compensated.

I get the dirty play and bad knee, but to compare him to Curry is an insult.

NYKBocker wrote:Until someone lays him out, he will keep doing it. Dallas should have protected Barea. Not one of them went after Bynum.

Thats why he did it. Bet a brawl, some suspensions and you know what then..........Series changer!

It was a bad play but playoffs is mans game. Ask Steve Nash's nose!

I was a stupid play for Bynum but at least they tried. JJ should have bit his leg.

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:I wouldn't want Bynum, he's slightly better than the 07' Eddy Curry because he has some defensive presence but he's as close to a zero sum big as it gets. Fans are caught up that he's a 7ft big. Add to the fact he has bad knees, isn't always motivated to play his best, and is inherently a dirty jerk off.... naaaaah I'll pass. The Lakers have had success with or without Bynum. The only way I'd be interested with him involved if it was a 3-Way trade and he got flipped somewhere else while we got compensated.

I get the dirty play and bad knee, but to compare him to Curry is an insult.

I disagree. What has Bynum accomplished? He's a better rebounder and better shot blocker but Curry was the far better scorer. At 24 Curry was 19 and 7. I dont see any scenario where Bynum averages close to 20 points, even on Minny. Maybe if he played with CP3 or Deron in place of Lopez. Even then I dont see it. He has a really tny offensive arsenal.

Killa4luv wrote:

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:I wouldn't want Bynum, he's slightly better than the 07' Eddy Curry because he has some defensive presence but he's as close to a zero sum big as it gets. Fans are caught up that he's a 7ft big. Add to the fact he has bad knees, isn't always motivated to play his best, and is inherently a dirty jerk off.... naaaaah I'll pass. The Lakers have had success with or without Bynum. The only way I'd be interested with him involved if it was a 3-Way trade and he got flipped somewhere else while we got compensated.

I get the dirty play and bad knee, but to compare him to Curry is an insult.

I disagree. What has Bynum accomplished? He's a better rebounder and better shot blocker but Curry was the far better scorer. At 24 Curry was 19 and 7. I dont see any scenario where Bynum averages close to 20 points, even on Minny. Maybe if he played with CP3 or Deron in place of Lopez. Even then I dont see it. He has a really tny offensive arsenal.

Yeah I don't really see where I've erred in assessment here. I qualified the year comparison and gave Bynum the edge due to defensive presence but it's not some great degree of separation for what he's done in his career up to this point vs Curry's 07' season. And believe you me Curry was a disaster at his best in 07'. I just think it's comical all the hype surrounding this guy coming into the league as if he was the next Shaq when he probably isn't better than Noah or Kris Kaman right now.