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Should we try to reacquire Wilson Chandler?
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4/27/2011  11:39 AM
Chandler would help the team.
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4/27/2011  8:47 PM
Chandler is the kind of frontcourt player D'Antoni likes. He rebounds and blocks shots pretty well. We could get away with playing him, Melo and Stoudemire up front without a C. He may not be my top option, but he'd be a good player to acquire.

We also desperately need another guy who can actually score. I know you won't see 2 of the top 3 injured that often, but not having any one else who could score the ball killed us...

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4/27/2011  9:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/27/2011  9:12 PM
I would love to get Will the Thrill back on the team. He can play the 2 and slide over to the 3 when Melo hits the bench or could be our 6th man. Unfortunately, I can't see it happening. I think he's going to want more than the Knicks are willing to pay. He's in line for $7 million per year. I think he winds up with the Nyets.
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4/27/2011  9:36 PM
Chandler was great as our 6th Man. I think he's one of those guys that doesn't care if he comes off the bench or not. He just plays. Besides 6th man is a very important position. Our bench lost so much when he left it. I don't know if we could make it work financially, but I'd be fine with it. His all around game fills holes. Sure we've got bigger needs, but that doesn't mean you pass up a good player either.
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4/27/2011  9:43 PM
I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER
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4/27/2011  9:46 PM
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

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4/27/2011  10:03 PM
Marv wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

how did you come to that conclusion?

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4/27/2011  10:07 PM
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

how did you come to that conclusion?

Yeah that's a strange take. Mike had Shaq and it didn't seem to be a problem for him. The only issue was that Shaq was horrid at guarding the PnR and teams just abused them with that play. What we need is a mobile C that has the strength to battle with the big C's but still has the agility to move and cover ground. I really would love a Tyson Chandler or Deandre Jordan or Anderson Verajao. Just not sure how we can make that happen, but that's what i'd be looking for.

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4/27/2011  10:10 PM
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

how did you come to that conclusion?

i think he prefers mobile pf's at c a la dlee or amear.

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4/27/2011  10:16 PM
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

how did you come to that conclusion?

i think he prefers mobile pf's at c a la dlee or amear.

I don't now, as far as I can tell he has never even had one that would crack the rotation anywhere outside of Minnesota.

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4/27/2011  10:16 PM
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

how did you come to that conclusion?

i think he prefers mobile pf's at c a la dlee or amear.

prob why he denied Curry playing time over the past 3 years? Not mobile enough. No pining for Jerome James as long as MDA is here.

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4/27/2011  10:21 PM
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

how did you come to that conclusion?

i think he prefers mobile pf's at c a la dlee or amear.

prob why he denied Curry playing time over the past 3 years? Not mobile enough. No pining for Jerome James as long as MDA is here.

yeah eddy's mobile. as in home.

jerome still has a championship-clinching jump hook in the paint in him. and i get my $5 back from dj.

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4/27/2011  10:23 PM
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

how did you come to that conclusion?

i think he prefers mobile pf's at c a la dlee or amear.

prob why he denied Curry playing time over the past 3 years? Not mobile enough. No pining for Jerome James as long as MDA is here.


DeAndre Jordan is who i'd go after for the job. He's not a polished offensive player, but his size and athletic ability at only 22 is a good project for Mike to develop. If Jared can find a way to score off PnR and back cuts, this kid should score a lot doing the same things Timo was asked to do. All he has to do is set picks and roll and 90% of the time he's open. I've seen him catch and finish so I have no doubt he'd fit in perfectly in that role.
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4/27/2011  10:26 PM
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I got three words for y'all - CENTER and CENTER

agreed. i wouldn’t spend a penny on a player till i landed my center. but seriously despite all the "who did he have?" arguments i don't think mda knows how to use a center and i don’t trust him. donnie's in a pickle.

how did you come to that conclusion?

i think he prefers mobile pf's at c a la dlee or amear.

prob why he denied Curry playing time over the past 3 years? Not mobile enough. No pining for Jerome James as long as MDA is here.

yeah eddy's mobile. as in home.

jerome still has a championship-clinching jump hook in the paint in him. and i get my $5 back from dj.

Marv, I think you prefer to post on ultimateknicks rather than fukc a Victoria Secrets model.

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4/28/2011  6:19 AM
fishmike wrote:I think if there is still a MLE at 24 years old I would give him the whole thing. 5 years $36mm. Your not going to get a better player that still has upside. I would 100% assume Denver would match, but Chandler has has a very poor playoffs and Denver has a lot of players on the books.

No doubt I would sign up for that in a heartbeat. He liked NY I think and maybe would take a discount. Probably cant get a better player than that at that price that doesn't count against the cap. But other than that I'm making way for Cp3, Deron, or Dwight.
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4/28/2011  7:14 AM
misterearl wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
misterearl wrote:
joec32033 wrote:No. Not unless he is.coming.off the bench for 25-30 per game. As nice as he is be is an injury waiting.to happen and is not.dependable. My take is that one of the biggest things that separates a starter from a sub is consistency. Wil is not consistent and not dependable. You need to know what you are gonna get from the guys you give the most minutes to, the starters. Wil is too unpredictable and injury prone to depend on.

Hogwash

How is 72 games, 49 starts, 15 points and 6 not dependable?

The "injury prone" garbage is only a result of The Mayor beasting inside against guys he takes it strong against.

With that said, the Knicks have more immediate, and documented, void at the center position. We need at least two. It would be better to have three.

We have none.

Hogwash on your hogwash with all due respect to your position as the president of the Wil Chandler fan club, I beg to differ. He always gets hurt around the all star break and for last few games of the season he is hurt. I called it this year. It happened last year. It is what he does.

And 15 and 6 is great if it is every game. It is not.so great when it is 28 and 8, then the next game it's 2 and 4.

Wil got talent and potential but he don't got dependability. You simply can't depend on him every night.

joec - everyone in the NBA gets injured.

Point of Clarification. I have, nor have I ever been, president of any Wilson Chandler fan club.

I have proudly served as the Mayor's Campaign Manager since 2007. I stand on my record of service and loyalty. Unlike some, who are quick to yank the trap door for any yoots who wear the orange and blue, I have been a tireless advocate for patience in the players who show up to practice early, get back on defense, eat their vegetables, hit the open man and play the right way.

Trades are for kids.

Earl, I understand your point but at some point a player is who he is. Chandler has been in the league long enough. He is young and he does improve in some aspects of his game but he has consistently been the same player for a while now. I don't argue he has talent nor do I argue he can be a useful player.

What I do argue is in what capacity. Because of his consistency struggles, which he has had for years, I think he is the type of player you have to bank on getting from him his worst case scenario. I explained before that what separates starters from subs to me is consistency. You need to be able to count on the guys you give the most minutes to to be productive. Wil isn't there (yet?). I think he can be a very good bench player with his versatility and skill set. He however is that player where what you get from him is more gravy than turkey. You can't count on it but it is nice when it is there.

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joec32033 wrote:
misterearl wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
misterearl wrote:
joec32033 wrote:No. Not unless he is.coming.off the bench for 25-30 per game. As nice as he is be is an injury waiting.to happen and is not.dependable. My take is that one of the biggest things that separates a starter from a sub is consistency. Wil is not consistent and not dependable. You need to know what you are gonna get from the guys you give the most minutes to, the starters. Wil is too unpredictable and injury prone to depend on.

Hogwash

How is 72 games, 49 starts, 15 points and 6 not dependable?

The "injury prone" garbage is only a result of The Mayor beasting inside against guys he takes it strong against.

With that said, the Knicks have more immediate, and documented, void at the center position. We need at least two. It would be better to have three.

We have none.

Hogwash on your hogwash with all due respect to your position as the president of the Wil Chandler fan club, I beg to differ. He always gets hurt around the all star break and for last few games of the season he is hurt. I called it this year. It happened last year. It is what he does.

And 15 and 6 is great if it is every game. It is not.so great when it is 28 and 8, then the next game it's 2 and 4.

Wil got talent and potential but he don't got dependability. You simply can't depend on him every night.

joec - everyone in the NBA gets injured.

Point of Clarification. I have, nor have I ever been, president of any Wilson Chandler fan club.

I have proudly served as the Mayor's Campaign Manager since 2007. I stand on my record of service and loyalty. Unlike some, who are quick to yank the trap door for any yoots who wear the orange and blue, I have been a tireless advocate for patience in the players who show up to practice early, get back on defense, eat their vegetables, hit the open man and play the right way.

Trades are for kids.

Earl, I understand your point but at some point a player is who he is. Chandler has been in the league long enough. He is young and he does improve in some aspects of his game but he has consistently been the same player for a while now. I don't argue he has talent nor do I argue he can be a useful player.

What I do argue is in what capacity. Because of his consistency struggles, which he has had for years, I think he is the type of player you have to bank on getting from him his worst case scenario. I explained before that what separates starters from subs to me is consistency. You need to be able to count on the guys you give the most minutes to to be productive. Wil isn't there (yet?). I think he can be a very good bench player with his versatility and skill set. He however is that player where what you get from him is more gravy than turkey. You can't count on it but it is nice when it is there.

joe i 100% agree with you. that's always been the knock on the mayor. he improves his game every year but he never eliminates the disappearing factor from his game fof stretches. whether it's injury-related or head-related it always happens. he gave nothing in the playoffs. earl i don’t think you can deny this or keep passing it off to youthfulness.

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4/28/2011  9:37 AM
I this version of the knicks he would be in a supporting role and be counted on to get hot in limited stretches. The mayor is not the alpha dog. Thats Melo's job.

I like Chauns but I liked the pace Felton was running the team. I'd use him and any other trade pieces we can get back for Billups.

Billups and Fields for Gallo-Shy Willy and Moz would be fine by me. That would unite the UK nation too!

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4/28/2011  9:46 AM
If we have space to sign somebody I'd prefer going after Dalembert/Hayes/Battier. I like Chandler but those guys would better help the team.
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4/28/2011  9:54 AM
Marv wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
misterearl wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
misterearl wrote:
joec32033 wrote:No. Not unless he is.coming.off the bench for 25-30 per game. As nice as he is be is an injury waiting.to happen and is not.dependable. My take is that one of the biggest things that separates a starter from a sub is consistency. Wil is not consistent and not dependable. You need to know what you are gonna get from the guys you give the most minutes to, the starters. Wil is too unpredictable and injury prone to depend on.

Hogwash

How is 72 games, 49 starts, 15 points and 6 not dependable?

The "injury prone" garbage is only a result of The Mayor beasting inside against guys he takes it strong against.

With that said, the Knicks have more immediate, and documented, void at the center position. We need at least two. It would be better to have three.

We have none.

Hogwash on your hogwash with all due respect to your position as the president of the Wil Chandler fan club, I beg to differ. He always gets hurt around the all star break and for last few games of the season he is hurt. I called it this year. It happened last year. It is what he does.

And 15 and 6 is great if it is every game. It is not.so great when it is 28 and 8, then the next game it's 2 and 4.

Wil got talent and potential but he don't got dependability. You simply can't depend on him every night.

joec - everyone in the NBA gets injured.

Point of Clarification. I have, nor have I ever been, president of any Wilson Chandler fan club.

I have proudly served as the Mayor's Campaign Manager since 2007. I stand on my record of service and loyalty. Unlike some, who are quick to yank the trap door for any yoots who wear the orange and blue, I have been a tireless advocate for patience in the players who show up to practice early, get back on defense, eat their vegetables, hit the open man and play the right way.

Trades are for kids.

Earl, I understand your point but at some point a player is who he is. Chandler has been in the league long enough. He is young and he does improve in some aspects of his game but he has consistently been the same player for a while now. I don't argue he has talent nor do I argue he can be a useful player.

What I do argue is in what capacity. Because of his consistency struggles, which he has had for years, I think he is the type of player you have to bank on getting from him his worst case scenario. I explained before that what separates starters from subs to me is consistency. You need to be able to count on the guys you give the most minutes to to be productive. Wil isn't there (yet?). I think he can be a very good bench player with his versatility and skill set. He however is that player where what you get from him is more gravy than turkey. You can't count on it but it is nice when it is there.

joe i 100% agree with you. that's always been the knock on the mayor. he improves his game every year but he never eliminates the disappearing factor from his game fof stretches. whether it's injury-related or head-related it always happens. he gave nothing in the playoffs. earl i don’t think you can deny this or keep passing it off to youthfulness.

he's too laid back and doesnt assert himself.

I think he's shown he's more than a bench player though

He's a good defender, a very good help defender and has a lot of all around skills. He can play 3 positions. He works hard and does improve his game every year. The depth he would add would be huge. Its not the 16ppg and 6rebs and 1.5blcks you can count on from him, its the games where some guy turns an ankle or gets into foul trouble and Chandler gives you 25 and 10. Sure... you get 8 and 5 the next game but thats OK.

The point is he's not great but he's quality, and he's a good all around player. When teams focus on Amare/Melo Chandler is a guy who can light you up if ignored. He would be a great MLE piece Denver doesnt want to match. We know he liked playing here and he was always a good soldier.

Getting Chandler back isnt a home run, but its a solid single up the middle and you need guys like that

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