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The Scary Part Is Carmelo Is Better Than Even He Realizes
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4/7/2011  2:09 AM
tkf wrote:melo probably has the best mid range game in the NBA... other than kobe, I can't find one better.. plus he is passing better than I thought he could..

It's not a coencidence that on the Redeem Team he was one of the leaders. That team was Kobe, LeBron, Wade, and Melo. You can't be one of the that group if you can't pass because, well, we all know Kobe is taking that last shot

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4/7/2011  8:08 AM
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CashMoney wrote:It's no secret that Melo takes bad shots from time to time. What I see is that he's taking less bad shots. Even the best of them take a shot from time to time that shoudln't have been taken. If Melo keeps his bad shots to 2-3 per game he is a much better player. Trade haters are always going to take jabs.

CashMoney - the three Carmelo took from six feet beyond the arc was a bad shot.

Even the Sixers announcers said so.

The only problem was the shot went in.

I happy to live with Melo taking a couple of bad shots per game, especially since they go swoosh through the hoop more often than not.

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4/7/2011  8:14 AM
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"Melo loves the game of basketball, he loves to play for the New York Knicks, and he loves to win, that’s why he’s smiling. There’s nothing arrogant about it. Arrogant is the stupid “I’m the man” glaring faces players make when they slam dunk or make a big shot. Check out Lebron or some of the Celtics if you want to see some arrogance."

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4/7/2011  8:29 AM
CashMoney wrote:
misterearl wrote:
CashMoney wrote:It's no secret that Melo takes bad shots from time to time. What I see is that he's taking less bad shots. Even the best of them take a shot from time to time that shoudln't have been taken. If Melo keeps his bad shots to 2-3 per game he is a much better player. Trade haters are always going to take jabs.

CashMoney - the three Carmelo took from six feet beyond the arc was a bad shot.

Even the Sixers announcers said so.

The only problem was the shot went in.

I happy to live with Melo taking a couple of bad shots per game, especially since they go swoosh through the hoop more often than not.

That wasn't a bad shot. Same as the game before. He had rhythm and was feeling it. It sent the message to the other team that they needed to guard him that far out, or he would drop those shots with ease.

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4/7/2011  8:29 AM
I'm just wondering how Melo will react when his hot shooting stops, when his luck runs out.

I maintain that this is not sustainable and he will soon revert to his old, inefficient self.

The career statistics don't lie and he is playing well above his norm.

The true test of a his character will come when the forced shots don't fall. It is easy to be happy when things are going well, but only true winners can persevere when fortune stops favoring them.

Unfortunately, his hot streak came a little to early and will most likely run out by the playoffs, where the Knicks are going to get swept.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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4/7/2011  8:37 AM
What is ur problem man? Just becaue they traded ur mancrush Gallinari you don't have one positive thing to say about the team on a 5 game winnin streak playoff bound?
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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4/7/2011  8:50 AM
Look, I can't be a blind optimist. I can't just say "oh, everything is great, look at the 5 wins".

My mind delves deeper, it is the burden of my intellect.

Melo has enough talent that, when he is hot, many of his defects are masked. But the true test is when he comes back down to his norm. Then it is all exposed again and that team, the true team, the team that will surely be evident once this fool's gold runs dry, that team is still flawed and full of problems.

The trade left us with a gutted team, a skeleton, in fact, I can't even call it a team.

So let's ride this happy wave, and I will act happy. But deep down, I know the deal. And it's not looking good.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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4/7/2011  8:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/7/2011  9:00 AM
orangeblobman wrote:I'm just wondering how Melo will react when his hot shooting stops, when his luck runs out.

I maintain that this is not sustainable and he will soon revert to his old, inefficient self.

The career statistics don't lie and he is playing well above his norm.

The true test of a his character will come when the forced shots don't fall. It is easy to be happy when things are going well, but only true winners can persevere when fortune stops favoring them.

Unfortunately, his hot streak came a little to early and will most likely run out by the playoffs, where the Knicks are going to get swept.

Amusing At Best

C'mon orangeblobman, the least you can do is be honest. You are rooting for Carmelo's so-called "luck" to run out so you can revert to your cliches and unfurl the tattered banner of righteousness. Your agenda is so transparent that it is comical. Just "man up", "'fess up" and come clean. Simply admit you want Carmelo to fail.

It's cool.

It is difficult for you to accept that such a prodigious talent can come from West Baltimore, where nothing good can derive. People like Carmelo never succeed because of hard work or the sacrifice of perfecting a craft. They get where they are because of "God-given" talent that they can only squander, while they are listening to the latest tunes on their boom boxes, right? Wrong. It's NOT luck, and athletic skill does NOT come in the mail like food stamps.

Career statistics are nothing but numbers on a page. Carmelo Anthony is not a number in a police lineup. He a person who has led his college team to a championship, led a professional franchise to the playoffs and is leading his month-old Knicks teammates by the example of adjusting his game to suit whatever need is needed at the moment. While you were celebrating his human flaws in your locker room haterade shower celebration something strange happened:

Carmelo brought the ball upcourt with his head up. Carmelo passed the ball. Carmelo became more selective about his offense and adapted to a new strategic system. Carmelo also hit a few clutch shots that simply demoralized the other team and made visiting announcers proclaim, "somebody better call the fire department, because he is BLAZING HOT!"

In your bias, you are totally missing the point, and in the process of this wonderful personal growth, some excellent hoops. There is no such thing as a forced shot when the sucka drops through the net. There is no such thing as a "hot streak" when you once dropped 33 points in a QUARTER. The playoffs are gravy. Whatever happens this year is a stepping stone to the MSG renovation and the 2011-12 roster. Carmelo is just one man. Just a man. A man. One part of a team that is a work in progress.

Don't hate Carmelo because he is enjoying himself. Hate that high school coach who convinced you that frowning made you a better athlete.

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4/7/2011  8:56 AM
orangeblobman wrote:Look, I can't be a blind optimist. I can't just say "oh, everything is great, look at the 5 wins".

My mind delves deeper, it is the burden of my intellect.

Melo has enough talent that, when he is hot, many of his defects are masked. But the true test is when he comes back down to his norm. Then it is all exposed again and that team, the true team, the team that will surely be evident once this fool's gold runs dry, that team is still flawed and full of problems.

The trade left us with a gutted team, a skeleton, in fact, I can't even call it a team.

So let's ride this happy wave, and I will act happy. But deep down, I know the deal. And it's not looking good.

The Melo you seen now is the true Melo. I said from day one that the kid was going to get his act together and would become a better plater in New York. The same flaws exist with this team than the pre-trade team, that's no secret but we don't have a gutted team.

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4/7/2011  8:58 AM
misterearl wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:I'm just wondering how Melo will react when his hot shooting stops, when his luck runs out.

I maintain that this is not sustainable and he will soon revert to his old, inefficient self.

The career statistics don't lie and he is playing well above his norm.

The true test of a his character will come when the forced shots don't fall. It is easy to be happy when things are going well, but only true winners can persevere when fortune stops favoring them.

Unfortunately, his hot streak came a little to early and will most likely run out by the playoffs, where the Knicks are going to get swept.

Amusing At Best

C'mon orangeblobman, the least you can do is be honest. You are rooting for Carmelo's so-called "luck" to run out so you can revert to your cliches and unfurl the tattered banner of righteousness. Your agenda is so transparent that it is comical. Just "man up", "'fess up" and come clean. Simply admit you want Carmelo to fail.

It's cool.

It is difficult for you to accept that such a prodigious talent can come from West Baltimore, where nothing good can derive. People like Carmelo never succeed because of hard work or the sacrifice of perfecting a craft. They get where they are because of "God-given" talent that they can only squander, while they are listening to the latest tunes on their boom boxes, right? Wrong. It's NOT luck, and athletic skill does NOT come in the mail out like food stamps.

Career statistics are nothing but numbers on a page. Carmelo Anthony is not a number in a police lineup. He a person who has led his college team to a championship, led a professional franchise to the playoffs and is leading his month-old Knicks teammates by the example of adjusting his game to suit whatever need is needed at the moment. While you were celebrating his human flaws in your locker room haterade shower celebration something strange happened:

Carmelo brought the ball upcourt with his head up. Carmelo passed the ball. Carmelo became more selective about his offense and adapted to a new strategic system. Carmelo also hit a few clutch shots that simply demoralized the other team and made visiting announcers proclaim, "somebody better call the fire department, because he is BLAZING HOT!"

In your bias, you are totally missing the point, and in the process of this wonderful personal growth, some excellent hoops. There is no such thing as a forced shot when the sucka drops through the net. There is no such thing as a "hot streak" when you once dropped 33 points in a QUARTER. The playoffs are gravy. Whatever happens this year is a stepping stone to the MSG renovation and the 2011-12 roster. Carmelo is just one man. Just a man. A man. One part of a team that is a work in progress.

Don't hate Carmelo because he is enjoying himself. Hate that high school coach who convinced you that frowning made you a better athlete.

+10

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4/7/2011  8:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/7/2011  9:05 AM
Supremacist At Work

What He Said

"My mind delves deeper, it is the burden of my intellect."

What He Really Meant

"I am superior to you"

Sound familiar?

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4/7/2011  9:01 AM
misterearl wrote:What He Said

"My mind delves deeper, it is the burden of my intellect."

What He Really Meant

"I am superior to you"

Sound familiar?

more like - im a scared little boy...

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4/7/2011  9:04 AM
"The trade left us with a gutted team, a skeleton, in fact, I can't even call it a team."

Of COURSE you cannot call it a team. A team where Toney Douglas is your longest tenured player is an assembly of tourists. We get that. Wanna blame someone for the trade? Go to 2 Penn Plaza and take your hand-painted sign to the entrance. Walk around with a bullhorn. Protest the suits upstairs. Scream at the top of your lungs.

Then go have a pretzel.

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4/7/2011  9:15 AM
orangeblobman wrote:Look, I can't be a blind optimist. I can't just say "oh, everything is great, look at the 5 wins".

My mind delves deeper, it is the burden of my intellect.

Melo has enough talent that, when he is hot, many of his defects are masked. But the true test is when he comes back down to his norm. Then it is all exposed again and that team, the true team, the team that will surely be evident once this fool's gold runs dry, that team is still flawed and full of problems.

The trade left us with a gutted team, a skeleton, in fact, I can't even call it a team.

So let's ride this happy wave, and I will act happy. But deep down, I know the deal. And it's not looking good.

we can replace everything we lost. i love gallo, he's my favorite player in the league, but to get a player like melo, you gotta give something to get something. melo is playing outstanding basketball right now and literally carrying this team on his back. he's not only scoring a ton, but he's rebounding very well, he's playing good defense now and he's cut down on the crap shots. melo is playing like a top10 player in this league and this is what he's capable of and GIVING us every single night right now.

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4/7/2011  9:27 AM
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orangeblobman wrote:Look, I can't be a blind optimist. I can't just say "oh, everything is great, look at the 5 wins".

My mind delves deeper, it is the burden of my intellect.

Melo has enough talent that, when he is hot, many of his defects are masked. But the true test is when he comes back down to his norm. Then it is all exposed again and that team, the true team, the team that will surely be evident once this fool's gold runs dry, that team is still flawed and full of problems.

The trade left us with a gutted team, a skeleton, in fact, I can't even call it a team.

So let's ride this happy wave, and I will act happy. But deep down, I know the deal. And it's not looking good.

we can replace everything we lost. i love gallo, he's my favorite player in the league, but to get a player like melo, you gotta give something to get something. melo is playing outstanding basketball right now and literally carrying this team on his back. he's not only scoring a ton, but he's rebounding very well, he's playing good defense now and he's cut down on the crap shots. melo is playing like a top10 player in this league and this is what he's capable of and GIVING us every single night right now.

Right. And I know that the Knicks sacrificies a lot of pawns but they definitely traded those pieces up.

Reach out your hand if your cup be empty,
If your cup is full may it be again

Those were quality parts, but replaceable. Again, how else do the Knicks procure a player of Carmelo Anthony's calibur? How else do the Knicks make Chris Paul's wedding toast a reality?

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4/7/2011  9:33 AM
misterearl wrote:
CashMoney wrote:It's no secret that Melo takes bad shots from time to time. What I see is that he's taking less bad shots. Even the best of them take a shot from time to time that shoudln't have been taken. If Melo keeps his bad shots to 2-3 per game he is a much better player. Trade haters are always going to take jabs.

CashMoney - the three Carmelo took from six feet beyond the arc was a bad shot.

Even the Sixers announcers said so.

The only problem was the shot went in.

Papabear Says

Any shot that goes in is a good shot. Stop complaining that what Carmelo does. Like it or not. He is the man and you will see a lot of that. When you get double teamed and tripple teamed you sometimes have to take those shots. D'Antoni encourage it.

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4/7/2011  9:37 AM
nixluva wrote:For those who didn't already realize that any great offensive player who plays for D'Antoni can get better if they apply what Mike teaches, now you can see for yourselves how this has been proven over and over. What Mike does is get players better shots and if we had a great PnR PG, you'd see STAT getting off more too. This is all part of the plan. Just look at the shooting %'s of our perimeter players from 3: Melo 42%, Shawne 42%, Fields 40%, Mason 40%, Walker 40%, TD 38% and CB 32%, but I think some of that was the Knee injury. I think CB is coming around.

As for the way Melo is scoring now, he's been getting better at the catch and shoot and he's taking more inbalance shots that come with less pressure. That comes from the spread offense. When he 1st got here, the other guys weren't used to him and he wasn't used to the offense and they were all getting in the way and with poor spacing. Now you see the floor is spaced much better and before he or STAT goes, they let the other players make cuts and curls 1st and this keeps teams from easily doubling as they had been. Paying closer attention to what Mike is doing you can see how he gets his players such great shots if they follow the plays. This is only going to get better with time.

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Nixluva is a D'Antoni Lova

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4/7/2011  9:43 AM
orangeblobman wrote:I'm just wondering how Melo will react when his hot shooting stops, when his luck runs out.

I maintain that this is not sustainable and he will soon revert to his old, inefficient self.

The career statistics don't lie and he is playing well above his norm.

The true test of a his character will come when the forced shots don't fall. It is easy to be happy when things are going well, but only true winners can persevere when fortune stops favoring them.

Unfortunately, his hot streak came a little to early and will most likely run out by the playoffs, where the Knicks are going to get swept.

Papabear Says

Hey! Hey! Are you a Knicks fan or not? It sounds like you are wishing he would stop shooting at a high level. Carmelo will be the most important player we have in the play-offs so please be positive. Stop the hate.

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4/7/2011  9:52 AM
orangeblobman wrote:Look, I can't be a blind optimist. I can't just say "oh, everything is great, look at the 5 wins".

My mind delves deeper, it is the burden of my intellect.

Melo has enough talent that, when he is hot, many of his defects are masked. But the true test is when he comes back down to his norm. Then it is all exposed again and that team, the true team, the team that will surely be evident once this fool's gold runs dry, that team is still flawed and full of problems.

The trade left us with a gutted team, a skeleton, in fact, I can't even call it a team.

So let's ride this happy wave, and I will act happy. But deep down, I know the deal. And it's not looking good.

Papabear Says

Look I hated to see Felton Gallo, Chandler, Moz go but our record before they left was not that great. You sound like a scorned luva Nix that! Either you are with us or against us. It seems to me that you are hoping that the Knicks get swept so you can jump for joy. Look the old Knicks are gone and either you get with the new program or become a Denver fan. Hey in a year or 2 the majority of those pieces will be gone from Denver. Some maybe back to New York.

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4/7/2011  9:55 AM
misterearl wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:I'm just wondering how Melo will react when his hot shooting stops, when his luck runs out.

I maintain that this is not sustainable and he will soon revert to his old, inefficient self.

The career statistics don't lie and he is playing well above his norm.

The true test of a his character will come when the forced shots don't fall. It is easy to be happy when things are going well, but only true winners can persevere when fortune stops favoring them.

Unfortunately, his hot streak came a little to early and will most likely run out by the playoffs, where the Knicks are going to get swept.

...In your bias, you are totally missing the point, and in the process of this wonderful personal growth, some excellent hoops. There is no such thing as a forced shot when the sucka drops through the net. There is no such thing as a "hot streak" when you once dropped 33 points in a QUARTER. The playoffs are gravy. Whatever happens this year is a stepping stone to the MSG renovation and the 2011-12 roster. Carmelo is just one man. Just a man. A man. One part of a team that is a work in progress.

Don't hate Carmelo because he is enjoying himself. Hate that high school coach who convinced you that frowning made you a better athlete.

OUCH! I could hear the sizzling on that one.

The Scary Part Is Carmelo Is Better Than Even He Realizes

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