Rookie wrote:to me...the difference in the game was the offensive production from the center position...although i guess i should be grateful JJ did score 4 points...but his missed free throw was a killer. Hansbrough has been on a tear as of late...he's gonna get his 20+.

we need more production from center and Billups has to pick up his D on the wing...we desperately need a center

You're talking about offense which is alarming but here we go...

This observation is very vacuum.

We did win the offensive battle from the backup point guard position right? Should we look here or make it exclusive to one position?

Really you're killing Effries at the center position battle when he was used as a backup? You realize he outscored his counter part backup in Foster by 1pt? Shawne Williams was our starting center he scored 10pts Hibbert scored 15pts. Did you watch the game? Hibbert didn't start scoring until very late which means we were winning the offensive battle for most of the game from the center position. Guess who Hibbert scored his points on late? Here's a hint..... it wasn't Effries. Now if you didn't watch the game and was using Boxscores for analysis, which is okay in some instances after you review the offensive matchup again tell me what you saw from this same position on the defensive side like reb/blks/stls

Needless to say Effries is a pretty terrible player

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Forget stats for a second.

Somebody tell me why Corey Brewer gets playing time on a better and deeper Mavericks team, but no playing time in New York under D'antoni.

I mean seriously.. you guys are funny. MDA doesnt care about defense because he's somehow responsible for being waived and your point is the Mavs DO care and he gets burn there but not here. But MDA has played Sheldon Williams just as much, but I guess thats a moot point? MDA starts JJ and he's a big part of the rotation but that means nothing too right? Shawn William's defense is what got him in the rotation over Bill Walker who just chucks 3s (I thought thats all MDA cares about) buy lets ignore that also.

Is the strategy to write 50x a day that "MDA doesnt care about defense and only plays 3 point shooters" until people start to believe it?

Its not true

martin wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

mreinman wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Forget stats for a second.

Somebody tell me why Corey Brewer gets playing time on a better and deeper Mavericks team, but no playing time in New York under D'antoni.

Uhhhhh ... cause our coach is a dousche ??

Ok, cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

did you guys actually check to see if he was getting any type of meaningful minutes or were you just posting pie in the sky stuff?

Martin, I know he got significant minutes against us (ouch) and he is working really hard with the coaches. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever that he did not even get a look in NY. Are we at such a champion caliber level that we could not find minutes from one of our stiffs to give him a look? At least on Dallas, since they are so deep, it is understandable that PT will be soft.

Juice wrote:

Rookie wrote:to me...the difference in the game was the offensive production from the center position...although i guess i should be grateful JJ did score 4 points...but his missed free throw was a killer. Hansbrough has been on a tear as of late...he's gonna get his 20+.

we need more production from center and Billups has to pick up his D on the wing...we desperately need a center

You're talking about offense which is alarming but here we go...

This observation is very vacuum.

We did win the offensive battle from the backup point guard position right? Should we look here or make it exclusive to one position?

Really you're killing Effries at the center position battle when he was used as a backup? You realize he outscored his counter part backup in Foster by 1pt? Shawne Williams was our starting center he scored 10pts Hibbert scored 15pts. Did you watch the game? Hibbert didn't start scoring until very late which means we were winning the offensive battle for most of the game from the center position. Guess who Hibbert scored his points on late? Here's a hint..... it wasn't Effries. Now if you didn't watch the game and was using Boxscores for analysis, which is okay in some instances after you review the offensive matchup again tell me what you saw from this same position on the defensive side like reb/blks/stls

Needless to say Effries is a pretty terrible player

didn't williams get in foul trouble in the 1st and Amare early in the 2nd...but obviously we watched the same game point is we need more production from the C position...hard to argue this point since MDA started williams over JJ...to get...eh...that's ok, you can say it...more production

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

mreinman wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Forget stats for a second.

Somebody tell me why Corey Brewer gets playing time on a better and deeper Mavericks team, but no playing time in New York under D'antoni.

Uhhhhh ... cause our coach is a dousche ??

Ok, cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

did you guys actually check to see if he was getting any type of meaningful minutes or were you just posting pie in the sky stuff?

Martin, I know he got significant minutes against us (ouch) and he is working really hard with the coaches. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever that he did not even get a look in NY. Are we at such a champion caliber level that we could not find minutes from one of our stiffs to give him a look? At least on Dallas, since they are so deep, it is understandable that PT will be soft.

You guys are unreal. We traded GOOD players to Denver. The depth is gone. Your left with NBA garbage cast offs. Now we are losing because the coach doesnt play Corey Brewer or Sheldon Williams enough.

Devils advocate: Brewer plays 15 minutes a game from Shawn Williams and Toney Douglas's minutes. What are you expections? Get real

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

mreinman wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Forget stats for a second.

Somebody tell me why Corey Brewer gets playing time on a better and deeper Mavericks team, but no playing time in New York under D'antoni.

Uhhhhh ... cause our coach is a dousche ??

Ok, cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

did you guys actually check to see if he was getting any type of meaningful minutes or were you just posting pie in the sky stuff?

Martin, I know he got significant minutes against us (ouch) and he is working really hard with the coaches. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever that he did not even get a look in NY. Are we at such a champion caliber level that we could not find minutes from one of our stiffs to give him a look? At least on Dallas, since they are so deep, it is understandable that PT will be soft.

he's a career NBA bench player. What is it your looking for your not getting from Shawn Williams or JJ or Bill Walker for that matter.

You guys are unreal. We traded GOOD players to Denver. The depth is gone. Your left with NBA garbage cast offs. Now we are losing because the coach doesnt play Corey Brewer or Sheldon Williams enough.

Devils advocate: Brewer plays 15 minutes a game from Shawn Williams and Toney Douglas's minutes. What are you expections? Get real

Semantics.

We are losing for many reasons. Fault to the players and COACH. The point, though obviously difficult to comprehen is that our coach is a stubborn mule. And, though he has his grassy knoll defenders, will not be and is not the future of this franchise. Get over it. You can always watch him fail on his next team. And again you can defend him until blue in the face - and thats ok.

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

mreinman wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Forget stats for a second.

Somebody tell me why Corey Brewer gets playing time on a better and deeper Mavericks team, but no playing time in New York under D'antoni.

Uhhhhh ... cause our coach is a dousche ??

Ok, cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

did you guys actually check to see if he was getting any type of meaningful minutes or were you just posting pie in the sky stuff?

Martin, I know he got significant minutes against us (ouch) and he is working really hard with the coaches. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever that he did not even get a look in NY. Are we at such a champion caliber level that we could not find minutes from one of our stiffs to give him a look? At least on Dallas, since they are so deep, it is understandable that PT will be soft.

did you miss the whole point of his agent asking out of his contract so he could move to another team and sign a 3 year deal? Cause that's what is commonly known.

Dude can't shoot worth a lick. Knicks have Melo, Fields, Shawne Williams, TD at the 2/3 spot. Where was he going to get minutes? Knicks need bigs who can defend, not wing players.

I could care less what his agent wanted. We are now a charitable organization. So, you are telling me that he can find PT on one of the deepest/best teams in the league but not ours? Oh I forgot we have TD and Roger Mason, Jefferies ... - HOF players who defend so well ...

We all know about MDA's stubborness - we are not living in a vacuum

apparently you are living in a vacuum devoid of actual fact or common sense.

Yes with the company of most of the media and any sane person/fan who are not wearing blinders.

I think this team is capable of playing better D, but it's gonna take a total team effort and that includes the coaches. Still when we face teams with good size we're gonna have problems. I think this is why we have a better chace against the Heat. They're pretty much like us, only they can defend on the perimeter, but they don't hurt us inside like other teams with size.