mreinman wrote:Still trying to figure out what the hell they needed Mozgov for and his 3 million per.

They may lose Nene to FA this summer.

I feel bad for him. He finally started playing again and now we is back riding the bench. They (Denver) just wanted to make it as painful to the Knicks as possible. The knicks coulda given away alot less and still made this trade.

I think so too, or I should say I for one would have played hardball down to the wire over Moz. There was no need to cave in 4 days before the deadline.

NYKBocker wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:I cant wait to see what people say when the Nuggets are in the lottery next year.

Reality is Denver might not even make the playoffs because the West is tight.

They are sitting at the 5 spot with a 37-26 record. Going to be a pretty big meltdown for them to miss the playoffs.

Not really. They have 19 games left and they are only 3 games ahead of the 8th seed.

scoshin wrote:Affalo and Chandler are up for a new contract this summer.

They also have to make a decision on whether to bring back JR Smith and/or K-Mart.

They then have Gallo up for a new contract in '12 and Ty Lawson the year after.

Sure, there situation is a lot more enviable than other rebuilding teams like Cleveland, Toronto, etc., but they have some tough decisions coming up and they won't be able to preserve all the depth they have right now. They're a "dangerous" team in that they can cause an upset in the 1st rd in the playoffs, much like Golden State was a dangerous team a few years ago. But I don't see them as being in a better position as the Knicks are, who have 2 stars in place, a vet PG in Billups, and $13M more in cap space in 2012.

i wonder how much Chandler is going to ask for? supposedly he was going to ask for 5yr 60 mill with the knicks back in Dec

AnubisADL wrote:I cant wait to see what people say when the Nuggets are in the lottery next year.

Reality is Denver might not even make the playoffs because the West is tight.

LOL, cosign.

They might make the playoffs because the 9-11 teams in the west are really bad and they were already a playoff team before the trade, but the hard on for the Nuggets is really getting sad to watch around here.

Kind of reminds me of the Feel good cavs story when they were 5-5............. I hope the nuggets stuff still comes up when they hit they're losing streak.

GALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Barkley is an idiot. He's wrong so much that no one should ever use him as a basis for an argument. He was hating on the Knicks and bashing us to Kenny as usual. He was wrong before the trade and he's gonna be wrong the rest of the way.

AnubisADL wrote:I cant wait to see what people say when the Nuggets are in the lottery next year.

Reality is Denver might not even make the playoffs because the West is tight.

You're funny. Obviously you haven't looked at the remaining schedules of the teams bunched up 4-8(OKC/NOH/PDX/Grizz). Denver only has to play those teams 3 times OKC 2 and NOH. Meanwhile NOH has to play the Grizz 3, Nugz, PDX. OKC has to play PDX 2, Nugz 2, Grizz, and NOH. PDX has to play OKC 2, Grizz, and NOH. I mean go ahead and ignore the teams right around them that are already caving. NOH, PDX, OKC. Now the Nuggets do have more road games but they also have the easier schedule closing out in terms of opponents winning %....they have like 7-8gms against teams like Kings/Clippers/Wiz/Raptors/Det/Wolves/GSW. PDX and NOH have brutal schedules to close out the season. Denver is pretty much sitting in the driver seat between these teams. They'd have to seriously collapse

Juice wrote:

nixluva wrote:Denver is a good team. It was deeper than NY before the trade and the guys they added are really good. We knew that and didn't want to send them all. Still this NY team has IMO far greater upside. The new guys that went to Denver didn't really have much of an adjustment, cuz Karl was able to just say RUN, RUN, RUN and everyone they have is better in that style. We are the ones that took in 2 slow it down players, which means we actually have to change what we do. That's the real reason why things have been just a bit less spectacular so far. Still when we finally make the adjustments, we'll have a better team in the end. This team is going to be much more suited to playoff BB than Denver.

Barkley is an idiot. He's wrong so much that no one should ever use him as a basis for an argument. He was hating on the Knicks and bashing us to Kenny as usual. He was wrong before the trade and he's gonna be wrong the rest of the way.

This statement doesn't even come close to making sense

Care to be specific as to what you feel doesn't make sense? I do feel the Knicks have greater upside. I'm not talking about individual players, but as a TEAM, I believe that the Knicks have another level they've yet to reach in terms of how good they can be. I don't think Denver can really play any better than they have been playing. In fact I think they're gonna hit a wall when they face good teams in the playoffs. On the other hand the Knicks haven't yet formulated a balance between the style of play we had and what is best for Billups and Melo. Denver didn't have to make that kind of adjustment. They played fast before and now even faster with the guys they added. However, once we get things adjusted I believe we have a greater chance for success in the future.

NY is gonna be a team that no top team wants to play, specifically cuz of the fact that we've got players that can raise their game to another level at anytime. Billups, Melo and STAT can all individually raise their game to a higher level and get a win. They've proven this in the playoffs before, whereas the players on Denver have less evidence of being able to do the same.

Knicksfan wrote:The love for the Nuggets is reaching sickning levels. Don't think a fanbase has reacted this way after their team ended up with the two best players in the trade, one a star andthe other a superstar.

Can anybody say that Denver is playing well because they kept most of their starting lineup and rotation. Its not even that. Their case is the case of a solid team that kept most of their active pieces while practically getting a second rotation of solid role players. With a traditional approach, its easy to see them clicking.

If you like that team, fine. But do we really need so many threads talking about how good they are like we made a mistake with the trade?

I agree with you. I am really getting sick of this love for Denver. They lost a superstar and are playing above themselves right now. For those who think for one second Melo is not BETTER than Danilo and Chandler combined, then you just haven't been watching basketball. Danilo and CHandler going to the Olympics? Danilo and Chandler starting in the All Star Game? Danilo and Chandler are such an amazing combo, I really LOVED our playoff runs the last few years with them.

Not too mention our 10 games above .500 record we had with them. Danilo and Chandler NEVER disappeared for entire games. And Felton didn't lose his jump shot all of the sudden before the trade. And Mosgov, my lord, he was lighting it up. However will we make up his 4 pts and 2 rbds a game. I mean, he started EVERY game for us this year didn't he?

toodarkmark wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:The love for the Nuggets is reaching sickning levels. Don't think a fanbase has reacted this way after their team ended up with the two best players in the trade, one a star andthe other a superstar.

Can anybody say that Denver is playing well because they kept most of their starting lineup and rotation. Its not even that. Their case is the case of a solid team that kept most of their active pieces while practically getting a second rotation of solid role players. With a traditional approach, its easy to see them clicking.

If you like that team, fine. But do we really need so many threads talking about how good they are like we made a mistake with the trade?

I agree with you. I am really getting sick of this love for Denver. They lost a superstar and are playing above themselves right now. For those who think for one second Melo is not BETTER than Danilo and Chandler combined, then you just haven't been watching basketball. Danilo and CHandler going to the Olympics? Danilo and Chandler starting in the All Star Game? Danilo and Chandler are such an amazing combo, I really LOVED our playoff runs the last few years with them.

Not too mention our 10 games above .500 record we had with them. Danilo and Chandler NEVER disappeared for entire games. And Felton didn't lose his jump shot all of the sudden before the trade. And Mosgov, my lord, he was lighting it up. However will we make up his 4 pts and 2 rbds a game. I mean, he started EVERY game for us this year didn't he?

Agreed.