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jimimou
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3/3/2011  4:29 PM
and blob breaks off the wisdom for us all to chew on.....NOW this thread is complete.
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3/3/2011  4:34 PM
Nalod wrote:
Honor code is an "Honorable" thing to do. The studants make a commitment and do missionary work. Missiaonary position is more what I looked for at that age but many religions and cultures in different forms do it.

It teaches self discipline and there is a sense of accomplishment. IM not selling it, I don't hold my kids to that standard, and I do like cafinated drinks. I guess they think its a drug.

Then there is poligamy.

You have to figure that the extended period of celibacy deserves a proper reward.

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3/3/2011  4:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/3/2011  4:35 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Honor code is an "Honorable" thing to do. The studants make a commitment and do missionary work. Missiaonary position is more what I looked for at that age but many religions and cultures in different forms do it.

It teaches self discipline and there is a sense of accomplishment. IM not selling it, I don't hold my kids to that standard, and I do like cafinated drinks. I guess they think its a drug.

Then there is poligamy.

It aspires to the beautiful and positive. Good for them. Look, the modern world would not be possible without some level of individual repression, or it's better to say control. It's all fun and games to be willy nilly, but you can't build a society on willy nilly, anything-goes liberation. Their code is in line with things beautiful. Family, healthy house, support of family and group members. Positive control, good stuff.

Any person that's worth a damn, take a scientist or a chess master or a top violinist, they checked themselves at the coat rack, they put their energies in control. That's awesome.

This is the one and only time, probably, that i am agreeing with you. Sort of. For the most part. The problem with their whole deal is that they have RIDICULOUS ways to accomplish the things that you speak of. Family, healthy house,support of family and group members? GTFO you are allowed to bang anyone who will sigh a piece of paper, that some people, myself included, would use to wipe ass. Except that our society puts that piece of paper in such high regard that there are religions that use it to justify screwing anything that moves AND willing to sign the said piece of paper. Humans are good inside. Religions take advantage of our inner wish to be good. The more weird stuff the religion includes, the more weird stuff you are allowed to do. People buy into it.

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3/3/2011  4:36 PM
jimimou wrote:and blob breaks off the wisdom for us all to chew on.....NOW this thread is complete.

Somewhere, AC Green has a big smile on his face.

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3/4/2011  10:52 AM
Nalod wrote:
Honor code is an "Honorable" thing to do. The studants make a commitment and do missionary work. Missiaonary position is more what I looked for at that age but many religions and cultures in different forms do it.

It teaches self discipline and there is a sense of accomplishment. IM not selling it, I don't hold my kids to that standard, and I do like cafinated drinks. I guess they think its a drug.

Then there is poligamy.

After 4 years at BYU, poligamy is the only way to go

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3/4/2011  11:23 AM
Don't Mormons have like 80 kids per household and used have like 5-6 wives?


Im kind of not clear on the sexual misconduct thing--forget making love for a minute--are you telling me if Jimmer Freddette (who has a pretty nice girlfriend) applies his hand to her breast--he is out?

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3/4/2011  11:26 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Don't Mormons have like 80 kids per household and used have like 5-6 wives?


Im kind of not clear on the sexual misconduct thing--forget making love for a minute--are you telling me if Jimmer Freddette (who has a pretty nice girlfriend) applies his hand to her breast--he is out?

Or how about decaf?

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3/4/2011  12:55 PM
Moonangie wrote:
Nalod wrote:DIdn't Jesus have a beard?

I think he was a Gillette spokesperson one year, no?

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3/4/2011  1:15 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Don't Mormons have like 80 kids per household and used have like 5-6 wives?


Im kind of not clear on the sexual misconduct thing--forget making love for a minute--are you telling me if Jimmer Freddette (who has a pretty nice girlfriend) applies his hand to her breast--he is out?


applying his hand is only detention, but if he gets a chubby he's suspended.
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3/4/2011  1:33 PM
fishmike wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Don't Mormons have like 80 kids per household and used have like 5-6 wives?


Im kind of not clear on the sexual misconduct thing--forget making love for a minute--are you telling me if Jimmer Freddette (who has a pretty nice girlfriend) applies his hand to her breast--he is out?


applying his hand is only detention, but if he gets a chubby he's suspended.

Actually a lot of those kids are already married very very young 19-20 21 etc..

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3/4/2011  1:42 PM
Fredette's girlfriend--he tagged her--they're just quiet about it. what prompted the other kid to give himself up--???

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3/4/2011  1:44 PM
that skirt certainly does not look like it covers the knee...also, what about the sleeveless dress!!!
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3/4/2011  1:53 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Fredette's girlfriend--he tagged her--they're just quiet about it. what prompted the other kid to give himself up--???

Procreation

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3/4/2011  3:19 PM
In the bible times, there were arraigned marriages and women were prepped and ready to be wives and mothers by the age of 16. They also usually stayed close to there families getting the extra support. In today's world unless every one shared the same beliefs and society all around was structured around these beliefs that everyone shared. Then it will be extremely hard to hold those values. Its good for BYU to establish the Honor code, but they shouldn't look to punish the students who break it so severely. As unless they put up a system in cohesion with parents. That they end up providing wives for the students to avoid premarital sex. Then this honor code will only lead to more sexual tension as students interact with each other looking for possible companionship.

Also if you look through God's laws of marriages and lust in Leviticus ch18,6-23 or ch20,10-21. There was no law against sex before marriage. Don't get me wrong its not condoned because of the consequences they could lead to. But if it was sin then God would have stated it just like he stated for all the other sexual sins and abominations. Do not have sex before marriage period. Even in Deuteronomy's laws the closest thing to not having sex before marriage. That if you were discovered to have had sex with a virgin then you had to marry her and pay the father 50 pieces of silver since you humbled her. That has more to do with in society in that time period it would be hard for the parents to offer a daughter who was not a virgin to a husband and be accepted in those days plus they would be disgraced. If you married a women who you discovered was not a virgin you were allowed to divorce her and she was allowed to marry another man. You could not re marry her though. These laws by God were put in place more so to keep the harmony of life avoid the disruption of the family structure. Basically avoid a lot of a problems we face today. Just as his laws on what clean and unclean meats to eat. As eating the meats would have a negative effect on the body from a nutritional standpoint.

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3/4/2011  3:29 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Fredette's girlfriend--he tagged her--they're just quiet about it. what prompted the other kid to give himself up--???

She's OK if you're into the whole sharp knees thing. I'm guessing she's just a front for Jimmer so he can do his real damage with the freaks in Nevada without anyone noticing.

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3/4/2011  3:44 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Fredette's girlfriend--he tagged her--they're just quiet about it. what prompted the other kid to give himself up--???

She's OK if you're into the whole sharp knees thing. I'm guessing she's just a front for Jimmer so he can do his real damage with the freaks in Nevada without anyone noticing.

LOL-he could but he also seems like a real decent kid. You cant trust a female not open their mouth--go ask Tiger Woods about that. Shes a pretty girl--best to do what you have to do in quiet.

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3/4/2011  3:51 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Fredette's girlfriend--he tagged her--they're just quiet about it. what prompted the other kid to give himself up--???

She's OK if you're into the whole sharp knees thing. I'm guessing she's just a front for Jimmer so he can do his real damage with the freaks in Nevada without anyone noticing.

This is what's happening behind closed doors.

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3/4/2011  5:45 PM
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