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fishmike wrote:of the guys we gave up, Felton, Gallo, Chandler and Mosgov Fields has the LEAST talent. He plays hard and he's smart. Lets not mistake that with a superstar talent. Fields is a very average defender, has a hard time keeping his man in front of his and shown no ability to create his own shot. He plays really hard, has shot the ball pretty good and makes some nice passes. The best part of our young roster is playing in Denver.

I disagree. We kept the player with the best basketball instincts. Unlike Gallo and Chandler, Fields does not need the ball to have an impact on the game. You need a guy who focuses on intangibles while Stat and Melo will be responsible for carrying the offensive load.

Gallo, even when he didn't have the ball, he balled hard on D and made it tough for the other team. We saw this in his first game for Denver. The guy has the best basketball instincts in the league, or close to it. So don't tell me Fields has better instincts.

Gallo was a decent defender, he was far from great. He'll never be all nba defensive team material, so I think your post has limited validity to it. And he really hurted the team with some of his awful shooting nights. Gallo was asked to do too much in NY, and was struggling. Im so glad we kept Fields over this guy. Hes going to learn a lot of good things from Chauncey that won't show up in the box score. The last thing a Dantoni team with 2 of the top 5 scorers needed was a chucker like Gallo.

+1

the hypnotic spell that Gallo has on some of the grown men on this forum amazes me.

The visceral aversion some folks have to him, and underrating him as a player is even more amazing. The chucker comment just points to ignorance.

I love Fields, and you can even say he is a better fit on this team because of the postion he plays, but he is well below Gallo in talent level, and in a couple of years some of you guys are going to be crying for him to be here again.

You can probably ask any GM in the NBA, and they will tell you that they'd take Gallinari over Fields if starting a team from scratch. Honestly, guys... it is not even that close.

Ultimate success for a player is determined by talent, system played in, circumstances, and surrounding teammates. Gallo may be in a better situation now, and I expect that his numbers will improve substantially over the next few years, as will his value.

Time will tell, as will the silence of some around here when the Rooster finally roars.

let me emphasize one of my previous posts on this thread that you can't compare Gallo and Fields because you're comparing a first yr player vs one that's been in the league for 3 yrs.

with that said, did Gallo ever get rookie of the month on more than one occasion? was Gallo an all star rookie?

it's not the "visceral aversion" to Gallo; i think he's good but some of you guys make out to be the next Larry Bird. Give me a break!

I've never said he was going to be the next Larry Bird.

Not much chance for Gallinari to gather any rookie honors since he was out with a back injury for most of the year.

The first year he was healthy he made the sophmore all-star team and the 3 PT shooting contest. Or am I mistaken?

Landry was also part of a rather poor rookie crop, in case you haven't noticed. I really like Fields, and was an early supporter- even saying good stuff about him on draft-night after I had a chance to see some clips of him- so I don't like writing anything negative about him, but if you look at both of them in 5 years, you will see much mistaken you are now.

Now you have a chance to sit back and watch Gallo develop in a more player-friendly environment. We can revisit this topic in a few years, but it won't be in a thread which you are the OP.

I never said YOU called him the next Larry Bird but he's been referred to by some as Larry Bird "lite". i'm thinking more like Tony Kukoc "lite" which isn't a bad thing btw.

well he shot 40% from behind the arc last season and i believe this season he's like 35% so uh ok make sure you post in a couple of yrs...

I look at him as an improved Danny Ferry more than a lite version of a high grade player

While you are picking boogers over Fields' perceived shooting deficiencies, he is grabbing yet another rebound. While you are kveching over him not playing like a rock star, he just had a blast at the NBA Sophomore - Rookie Game, playing on the winning team I might add. Silly? Of COURSE it is silly. Just as silly as Donnie Walsh to mention Landry Fields in the same sentence as John Havlicek. But guess what? The old man saw something that everyone else slept in June.

You, my good man, are sleeping through the most fun rookie season any Knicks player has had since Mark Jackson. Go ahead, watch the Modell's clip again. I DARE you not to smile.

Rather than confine Fields to your narrow box of what he don't do to your lofty standard of perfection, why not look into The Answer Man's always dependable Crystal Basketball and check out the veteran Landry Fields strutting his stuff (and 39" vertical jump) at 26 years old in 2015.

Man-crush? You damn skippy it's a man crush. He can even marry my daughter.

fishmike wrote:we need a real SG... this offseason I would trade Fields and Douglas for Mayo in a NY heartbeat. Throw in some dogs from grey papaya

I love Fields but I think I would agree with this.

SupremeCommander wrote:I was a Gallo fan when I was here but this unconditional love affair that some have with him is weird. The only comparison I can think of is 14 year old girls and Justin Bieber. Someone dare criticize Bieber and the talons come out and the personal attacks get focussed on the criticizer. I think Robert DeNiro and Wesley Snipes made a movie about this level of adoration from a grown man to an athlete.

+10000

fishmike wrote:we need a real SG... this offseason I would trade Fields and Douglas for Mayo in a NY heartbeat. Throw in some dogs from grey papaya

C'mon fishmike, OJ Mayo is 47 years old.

If every other alternative player is coveted your franchise has no soul. It is purely business. Where is the serendipity in that?

I don't want a team composed of mercenaries. I want some feel good stories.

People are welcoming Jared Jeffries back home to get over the grief of losing Gallo. Jeffries is an imperfect basketball player, but he is ours. Cool.

Why did fans chant "Ro-ger May-son"? Because fan at The Garden wanted to show some love for one of the longest tenured Knicks. He makes two shots. I'm widit.

Every time Shawne Williams drains a three a kid in Memphis says no to his shady running buddies. Solid. Williams barely made the roster over Junior.

Anthony Carter was playing in a midnight basketball league in the same manner John Starks was bagging groceries. He will never be outworked.

Stop the madness.

Marv wrote:

misterearl wrote:

fishmike wrote:we need a real SG... this offseason I would trade Fields and Douglas for Mayo in a NY heartbeat. Throw in some dogs from grey papaya

C'mon fishmike, OJ Mayo is 47 years old.

If every other alternative player is coveted your franchise has no soul. It is purely business. Where is the serendipity in that?

I don't want a team composed of mercenaries. I want some feel good stories.
People are welcoming Jared Jeffries back home to get over the grief of losing Gallo. Jeffries is an imperfect basketball player, but he is ours. Cool.

Why did fans chant "Ro-ger May-son"? Because fan at The Garden wanted to show some love for one of the longest tenured Knicks. He makes two shots. I'm widit.

Every time Shawne Williams drains a three a kid in Memphis says no to his shady running buddies. Solid. Williams barely made the roster over Junior.

Anthony Carter was playing in a midnight basketball league in the same manner John Starks was bagging groceries. He will never be outworked.

Stop the madness.

wins produce the best feel good stories. everything else is just commentary.

Marv - continuity creates trust. Talent plus trust equals winning.

One of the reasons the Celtics have been successful is continuity. Garnett and Jesus Shuttlesworth followed the footsteps that Paul Pierce inherited from Larry Bird, who followed Havlicek... who stole the ball... after it was passed from Cousy to Russell.

Amare inherited the leadership mantle from Chris Duhon.

Once West Virginia homeboys Mayo and Bill Walker are reunited in NYC the trouble starts. They start running the streets together and are arrested at 3AM in The Village with three hookers. Walker and Mayo get in a fight over the illegal substances found under the passenger seat. Both are suspended. The team is fractured into cliques.

Landry Fields makes the NBA All Star team in 2016, playing with the San Antonio Spurs.

The Knicks need a center. Not a replacement for Landry Fields.

if you contend the Celtics franchise success has nothing to do with continuity then where does Red Auerbach 57 years of influence fit in the equation?

misterearl wrote:Marv - it's not simply production on the court. Pierce endured. They may not have won but he was a link to excellence with his professionalism and performance.

if you contend the Celtics franchise success has nothing to do with continuity then where does Red Auerbach 57 years of influence fit in the equation?