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Gallo is playing better with Denver. Why?
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TheloniusMonk
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2/26/2011  6:08 PM
True, Knicksfan. Role players are much easier to find. And we will. Good luck to Denver finding someone who consistently takes over when it counts.
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2/26/2011  6:26 PM
dont have the answer maybe someone here does but i wonder when dirk nowitski began to demand the ball and takeover
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2/26/2011  6:37 PM
Nowitzski? Year 2....22 and 9. Tough rookie year, but even through that first year he "had it" but they didn't quite believe in him. Knicks were begging Gallo to be consistent from day one. Once we got Amar'e it was all about being that 2nd star. Take pressure off of Amar'e. What he did last night in Denver, he's done here before. Just not consistently. Good game...gone when it counts.
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2/26/2011  6:41 PM
Knicksfan wrote:One game. ONE FREAKING GAME against the Blazers. Like we NEVER saw a great game from Gallo before? But tell me how did he do the game before?

Come on, people! Gallo could have a solid career as he definitely has talent, but you are inducting him to the Hall of Fame because you didn't like the Melo Trade! Let's see what George Karl can get out of Gallo before we do that, shall we? Because after a great game, usually came a disappearing act from Gallo. We'll see what happens.

By the way, while we give Karl and Gallo time to see what they become, lets GIVE A FREAKING TIME TO MELO TO GET USED TO HIS NEW TEAM! Melo has actually a better history to back him up! You mad we gave a lot for him? Well, such is life! We will have a chance to surround Melo and Amare with enough talent to be more than the fun team we lost in a trade, but actually contend for a championship, something that has always been the dream of us as fans!

He played great. While he did not do it offensively, he played great defense on Paul Pierce shutting him down in the 1st half. Gallo also forced Pierce into 2 early fouls in the 1st quarter and the minute he came in the 2nd quarter he fouled Gallo again. Gallo defended great against Ray Allen and even played PF and defended Big Baby really well. He had 3-4 blocks and a couple more he changed the path of the ball. He also guarded KG in one sequence where he forced KG to a fadeaway shot that he partially blocked that caused a 24 sec shot clock violation.

You guys really have to stop looking at the stat sheet and look at the flow of the game. Gallo is an outstanding basketball player. He is the complete package.

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2/26/2011  8:01 PM
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Knicksfan wrote:One game. ONE FREAKING GAME against the Blazers. Like we NEVER saw a great game from Gallo before? But tell me how did he do the game before?

Come on, people! Gallo could have a solid career as he definitely has talent, but you are inducting him to the Hall of Fame because you didn't like the Melo Trade! Let's see what George Karl can get out of Gallo before we do that, shall we? Because after a great game, usually came a disappearing act from Gallo. We'll see what happens.

By the way, while we give Karl and Gallo time to see what they become, lets GIVE A FREAKING TIME TO MELO TO GET USED TO HIS NEW TEAM! Melo has actually a better history to back him up! You mad we gave a lot for him? Well, such is life! We will have a chance to surround Melo and Amare with enough talent to be more than the fun team we lost in a trade, but actually contend for a championship, something that has always been the dream of us as fans!

He played great. While he did not do it offensively, he played great defense on Paul Pierce shutting him down in the 1st half. Gallo also forced Pierce into 2 early fouls in the 1st quarter and the minute he came in the 2nd quarter he fouled Gallo again. Gallo defended great against Ray Allen and even played PF and defended Big Baby really well. He had 3-4 blocks and a couple more he changed the path of the ball. He also guarded KG in one sequence where he forced KG to a fadeaway shot that he partially blocked that caused a 24 sec shot clock violation.

You guys really have to stop looking at the stat sheet and look at the flow of the game. Gallo is an outstanding basketball player. He is the complete package.

Ok, so lets undo the trade and build around superstar Gallo. Excellent!

I loved Gallo and the fact that we traded him won't make me change my mind. But being unhappy with the trade shouldn't blind anybody. Gallo was great for us but he was super inconsistent.

Its funny how the fans opinion changes with everything. When Lebron was about to make his "Decision", many here said their real dream was to get Melo, the Newyorker. When LJ took his talent to Miami, everyone said we had to get another star, if not we were always gonna come up short to The Heat.

Now that we have traded for the second and even brought another player, a champion, with experience and still All-Star play, we want our other players back. Come on! The most we could've expected out of that group was a total of 41-45 wins and a first round exit. Right now we may not have the depth of others, but this Melo move makes it more realistic to dream about a championship. In a stars league, we got two. In a league where veterans mean more chances in the playoffs, we are leaded by savvy Chauncey Billups. Do we need more pieces? Of course we do! But none of them necessarily involve a star anymore for the next few seasons. If we bring a few big bodies that can help with rebounding, this team can go to war and may even surprise us.

Do we need time to get in sync? Of course! We just traded our rotation! But with time, we will have a better chance in the playoffs with this cast.

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2/26/2011  8:04 PM
PresIke wrote:i don't see how anyone can look at two games, one where he didn't score much at all, and one good game, and conclude he's playing better already.

+10

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2/26/2011  8:05 PM
I guess you can't lump me to the fans that opinions change with Gallo cause I am a big Gallo fan. Never wanted him included in any trade. I wanted Donnie to wait until the summer to get Melo.
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2/26/2011  8:05 PM
Uptown wrote:Honestly, who the F### cares. He no longer wears blue and orange so what does it matter? I remember being devestated when Strickland was traded, but I was very happy later on in the year when we upset the Celts in the playoffs. In another year, after a few minor tweaks, the Knicks have a shot to be one of the top 3 teams in the east something that we couldn't stake claim to had we not pulled the trigger on thi deal.

+5

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2/26/2011  8:06 PM
SlimChin wrote:the lust for Gallo on this forum is nauseating...
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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2/26/2011  8:06 PM
babyKnicks wrote:
PresIke wrote:i don't see how anyone can look at two games, one where he didn't score much at all, and one good game, and conclude he's playing better already.

+10

He wasn't playing better. He was playing the same.

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2/26/2011  8:07 PM
babyKnicks wrote:
PresIke wrote:i don't see how anyone can look at two games, one where he didn't score much at all, and one good game, and conclude he's playing better already.

+10

I watched the games and it really isn't that big a leap.
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2/26/2011  9:47 PM
TheloniusMonk wrote:Yeah, I saw him ask for it. Role players ask. True stars demand. Don't clear out. Dominate the space. Want it. Ultimately get it. We have three players that understand that on our current roster. Good luck to Denver with that.

It will take the coach to change things.

A BB team isn't run according to some kind of survival of the fittest thing.

Do you expect players to fight for control of the ball?

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2/26/2011  11:19 PM
Gallo should have been the 2nd option here. If he is a 1 or 2 option, he will get over 20 per game, imo.

Lets see. IF true, then not lust but truth.

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2/27/2011  12:14 AM
TheloniusMonk wrote:They lost because Gallo doesn't have it in him to demand the ball and take over. It's just not there. To me, you have it, or you don't. He'll never be consistant at putting anyone on his shoulders. Wilson Chandler is actually a more consistant player.

Have you ever played for a coach of any kind?

Coaches pretty much dictate touches and who to look for.

PG get the ball to players. And listens to what coach asks of him and leads on floor.

Demanding the ball in the NBA is a crock of shti!!

Kobe has to demand the ball?..... Or Amare? Or Lebron? Or Wade? ...... Or to lesser degree
did Chandler EVER demand the ball?

No

Gallo was used mostly for spacing on our team........ Only when Chandler went down with an injury
did we see Gallo get touches.

He had 15 shot attempts only once all year...... That had nothing to do with demanding ball.

You demand ball at 3 point line in BB?...... How the hell is that possible?

Gallo after we gave up on Mcgrady last year showed he can very much so carry a team.......

We were a ****ty team but Gallo showed he could be a great go-to guy.

Last year everyone wanting a contract not looking for Gallo.

This year it was Amare Felton Wilson and TD taking more shots then Gallo but its Gallo's fault?

NO!!!

Gallo will Avg over 20 a game rest of the way and could of easily avg that with us as well.

KNICKS on the way UP!!!
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2/27/2011  12:32 AM
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Knicksfan wrote:One game. ONE FREAKING GAME against the Blazers. Like we NEVER saw a great game from Gallo before? But tell me how did he do the game before?

Come on, people! Gallo could have a solid career as he definitely has talent, but you are inducting him to the Hall of Fame because you didn't like the Melo Trade! Let's see what George Karl can get out of Gallo before we do that, shall we? Because after a great game, usually came a disappearing act from Gallo. We'll see what happens.

By the way, while we give Karl and Gallo time to see what they become, lets GIVE A FREAKING TIME TO MELO TO GET USED TO HIS NEW TEAM! Melo has actually a better history to back him up! You mad we gave a lot for him? Well, such is life! We will have a chance to surround Melo and Amare with enough talent to be more than the fun team we lost in a trade, but actually contend for a championship, something that has always been the dream of us as fans!

He played great. While he did not do it offensively, he played great defense on Paul Pierce shutting him down in the 1st half. Gallo also forced Pierce into 2 early fouls in the 1st quarter and the minute he came in the 2nd quarter he fouled Gallo again. Gallo defended great against Ray Allen and even played PF and defended Big Baby really well. He had 3-4 blocks and a couple more he changed the path of the ball. He also guarded KG in one sequence where he forced KG to a fadeaway shot that he partially blocked that caused a 24 sec shot clock violation.

You guys really have to stop looking at the stat sheet and look at the flow of the game. Gallo is an outstanding basketball player. He is the complete package.

Very smartly put sir

I can tell u watch the games

KNICKS on the way UP!!!
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2/27/2011  1:25 AM
To think Gallo is playing differently in Denver than on the Knicks is hilarious. He's the same guy. Looks great one day. Below average the next. What else is new? He's a very good role player. Nice piece to have. Case closed.
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2/27/2011  1:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/27/2011  1:39 AM
TheloniusMonk wrote:Nowitzski? Year 2....22 and 9. Tough rookie year, but even through that first year he "had it" but they didn't quite believe in him. Knicks were begging Gallo to be consistent from day one. Once we got Amar'e it was all about being that 2nd star. Take pressure off of Amar'e. What he did last night in Denver, he's done here before. Just not consistently. Good game...gone when it counts.

That's year three number you pointing at...

Checked NBA.com
Dirk...

98-99	DAL	47	24	20.4	0.405	0.206	0.773	0.9	2.6	3.4	1.0	0.6	0.6	1.55	2.23	8.2
99-00 DAL 82 81 35.8 0.461 0.379 0.830 1.2 5.2 6.5 2.5 0.8 0.8 1.72 3.12 17.5
00-01 DAL 82 82 38.1 0.474 0.387 0.838 1.5 7.7 9.2 2.1 1.0 1.2 1.90 2.99 21.8

Gallo

08-09	NYK	28	2	14.7	0.448	0.444	0.963	0.5	1.5	2.0	0.5	0.5	0.1	0.54	1.71	6.1
09-10 NYK 81 74 33.9 0.423 0.381 0.818 0.8 4.1 4.9 1.7 0.9 0.7 1.36 2.36 15.1
10-11 DEN 2 2 30.5 0.400 0.143 0.882 1.0 5.5 6.5 1.0 1.0 2.0 1.00 1.00 16.0
10-11 NYK 48 48 34.8 0.415 0.347 0.893 1.0 3.8 4.8 1.7 0.8 0.4 1.21 2.44 15.9
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2/27/2011  11:17 AM
TheloniusMonk wrote:To think Gallo is playing differently in Denver than on the Knicks is hilarious. He's the same guy. Looks great one day. Below average the next. What else is new? He's a very good role player. Nice piece to have. Case closed.
You should check out this article in the denver post. They seem to be pretty high on Gallo.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17493230?source=rss

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2/27/2011  11:51 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
TheloniusMonk wrote:To think Gallo is playing differently in Denver than on the Knicks is hilarious. He's the same guy. Looks great one day. Below average the next. What else is new? He's a very good role player. Nice piece to have. Case closed.
You should check out this article in the denver post. They seem to be pretty high on Gallo.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17493230?source=rss

Most of us were high on Gallo too! How could you not be high on that guy? But this thread is about whether he is immediately a better player. Hard to tell after 2 games.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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2/27/2011  11:58 AM
loweyecue wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TheloniusMonk wrote:To think Gallo is playing differently in Denver than on the Knicks is hilarious. He's the same guy. Looks great one day. Below average the next. What else is new? He's a very good role player. Nice piece to have. Case closed.
You should check out this article in the denver post. They seem to be pretty high on Gallo.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_17493230?source=rss

Most of us were high on Gallo too! How could you not be high on that guy? But this thread is about whether he is immediately a better player. Hard to tell after 2 games.

I'm not suggesting that Gallo has undergone this dramatic transformation. He wasn't posting up in NY, he wasn't going coast to coast, and he wasn't making nifty passes in transition. When he did it was the exception to the rule. What struck me was that he was doing all of this right after arriving in Denver. I'm curious as to why? The article CrushAlot posted seems to suggest coaching.

Gallo is playing better with Denver. Why?

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