Knickoftime wrote:

islesfan wrote:So you don't think you can stop being a fan and still post on a message board about that team?

By rule. No.

I don't get your point.

I already made it clearly.

"Hate isn't the opposite of love. Indifference is."

No longer being a fan means not caring anymore.

Be pissed off, complaining, and spending time talking about it means you care, which means you're a fan.

The non-fans are gone. And they didn't announced their departure.

The ones really, REALLY angry and upset this morning and are vocalizing it are STILL the biggest fans amongst us, by definition.

could also mean you are petering out and just wanted to commiserate with those you have been fans and friends with for a while.

Unless human emotions are black and white.

Knickoftime wrote:

FrenchKnicks wrote:Oh what a coincidence, you joined one month ago ! Funny how you were not here through the Layden and Isiah years isn't it ? How funny is it for you to give us some lessons about how we should feel on that day !?

Are you suggesting you're not a Knicks fans unless you're registered on UltimateKnicks.com?

Really?

And I'm not telling you how to "feel". You're perfectly justified to feel however you like, and you'd be no more or less right or wrong than I.

What I AM saying is you're upset BECAUSE you're a fan, which means you're STILL a fan, which means you aren't leaving.

There is PLENTY of room for debate on this trade, but a thread dedicated to people proclaiming their intention not to be fans anymore is silly.

Even if some of you managed a few months, if the Knicks made it into the second round and were 1-1 vs Miami heading to the Garden, would any of you truly claim this morning you'd stay away?

I dare any of you...

Hate isn't the opposite of love. Indifference is.

If any of your were indifferent, you wouldn't be here right now talking about it.

Indifferent, apathetic fans are the ones the Knicks are going to lose.

Not you guys.

Most everyone is just venting their anger and frustration and most will stay fans of the Knicks. Altho next year I might follow the Nets a bit if they become interesting. I usually root for NY teams in the same sport even tho one may be my favorite by far. Like Mets and Yanks. or Giants/Jets. In observing this trade and negotiations, I find Prokorov very enticing. I'm interested to see what he is going to do.

Hate isn't the opposite of love. Indifference is.

"Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering!" - Yoda/George Lucas

I will suck it up and continue to root for the Knicks.

SteveSmith wrote:

Andrew wrote:

SteveSmith wrote:I am pissed as hell about the way this was handled. The Knicks did the right thing, build a team the right way and... SMASH!

Someone said it: Walsh did the dirty work to restore Dolans broken plaything. As soon as it is on its way to old beauty, the one destroiing it in the first place, comes in and gets another try at smashing it.

This is just unbelievable stupid. I just cant comprehend what, if anything, is happening in the mind of James Dolan...

As of teams to follow: The Thunder are a nice team im getting to like more and more. Oh well, and of course the Nuggets have some of my favorite players.

Kind of like how I build a really cool tower of blocks and my 2 year old and the only thing that he wants to do is smash it down....and then ask me to build another one.

Yep. Kinda sad when money is hereditary, but brain isn't... (How was his dad as boss of the knicks?)

It's a disappointing trade because we gave up so many assets that couldve helped us achieve much higher goals. Im certainly not changing allegiances--but its going to be very hard to make a full team out of this. And should one of these guys get hurt--there is no 2nd plan for 5 years. Its all or nothing and were going without much ability to improve from here. We need to get very lucky with our draft pick the MLE has to be perfect(if we can even use 1??/) I think the prudent action was waiting the 28 games--it was only 28 games to play out and get to free agency that we gave two years up for. Giving away all of that homegrown talent that had a great chance to mesh over time and all of those additional assets because we could not be patient--just horrible.

This deal isn't what I would call great but not as bad as you guys make it out to be. No one we gave up will probably be more than a role player, no one going to Denver (or continuing to their eventual destination) can't be replaced. Donnie cleared out cap room like nobody's business to clear enough space for Lebron. If he stays I'm confident that he can do it again and still put a competitive team on the floor. If Walsh leaves and Isiah is back then I will be as pessimistic as your are.

In the meantime try to enjoy the fact that we have added two superstars in their prime in the last year. Walsh isn't done yet, at least I hope he isn't.

toodarkmark wrote:Amazing. We give up a good jump shooter, a sixth man, a backup center for an All Star Starter and this board feels like we just traded for Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley. I am SHOCKED at the reaction of this board. I have been watching the Knicks and the NBA since 1987, and stars win championships. Stars get calls, stars create rivalries, stars attract other stars. Danilo Gallinarri will be averaging 12 ppg from now on. Wilson Chandler is the next Boris Diaw. NOT EVEN. Mosgov will be out of the league before you know it.

It's really sad that people were so in love with a 28-26 lineup that was fading fast and riding on the back of A'mare. I remember a month ago MOST people on this board wanted to get rid of Danilo. Do people REMEMBER that? Felton was in danger of reaching Duhon levels. Remember how well Duhon started here? Come on.

1. We gave up too much when we didn't need to;
2. Walsh was pushed aside by Dolan who is listening to Isiah.

toodarkmark wrote:Amazing. We give up a good jump shooter, a sixth man, a backup center for an All Star Starter and this board feels like we just traded for Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley. I am SHOCKED at the reaction of this board. I have been watching the Knicks and the NBA since 1987, and stars win championships. Stars get calls, stars create rivalries, stars attract other stars. Danilo Gallinarri will be averaging 12 ppg from now on. Wilson Chandler is the next Boris Diaw. NOT EVEN. Mosgov will be out of the league before you know it.

It's really sad that people were so in love with a 28-26 lineup that was fading fast and riding on the back of A'mare. I remember a month ago MOST people on this board wanted to get rid of Danilo. Do people REMEMBER that? Felton was in danger of reaching Duhon levels. Remember how well Duhon started here? Come on.

But I love this team and those guys do too. I love the passion on this board, thats why I'm here.

But yeah, we were 2 games over .500 and Melo wasn't waiting until free agency. We did it, he made us and the russian made us. Its done, weve gotta move forward now.