So let me get this straight: Denver manipulates the media so Dolan brain-farts into giving up a fair deal. But that isn't enough, Denver wants more so they could flip the players to NJ, who wont be extended by Melo but they still have a chance to get him anyway? And if NY does what most would find logical, that is walking away, they would fall into NJ and Denver's master plan of making Melo accept NJ?

This is crazy!

NY shouldn't walk away, instead they should go back to their first offer, leaving Felton and Gallinari out. Tell them its the last offer and let them get crazy convinving Melo to stay or accept NJ. Only way the Knicks can fairly accept this ridiculous situation.

s3231 wrote:I mean he already has helped ensure that we pay a high price if we are able to land Melo.

Not really.

Guys, this has been reported ad nausuem since the beginning and many KNicks fans have chosen to not to believe it, thinking it was just a bargaining tactic.

Multiple writers have said that Denver is NOT motivated to deal with NY, not only because they don't want to lay down and give 'melo everything he wants as he's spurning them, but that Denver really just isn't too keen on the Knicks young players.

Many of us have tuned this out, believing that in the end, Knicks could get 'Melo for Wilson Chandler and Randolph, or pick him up as a free agent.

It was that hope/assumption/expectation that is fueling the frustration now, despite it maybe never being a possibility.

Nets are in good hands...I don't think there is anything wrong with us acknowledging that their owner seems to know what he is doing.

Disagree. He might be a shrewd, cut-throat businessman, but I think he's utterly misreading a market he doesn't understand.

And despite some Knicks fans claims here that they will become Nets fans, I don't think he fully understands the nature of regional sports loyalty.

I think he think the fanbase is for sale, that the population of NY outside the confines of Brooklyn is up for grabs, and if he does, he'd be completely mistaken.

Nets had a terrible off season. They're having a terrible season. Their head coach and best player are at odds.

I've YET to see a basketball decision that I'd consider a good one.

I've seen a few non-basketball decisions that have been awful.

And if this heavy-handedness is accurate, I think these tactics will turn on him too.

Knicksfan wrote:I dare a hollywood writer to make a more twisted and crazy script than this one. We are all being held hostage to the easily manipulated and uninformative media, who seem to love being played by Denver and New Jersey. This is such a ridiculous situation that imagining Denver and New Jersey executives sitting in a room laughing like silly 70's villains while they torture NY isn't out of the realm of possibilities anymore.

So let me get this straight: Denver manipulates the media so Dolan brain-farts into giving up a fair deal. But that isn't enough, Denver wants more so they could flip the players to NJ, who wont be extended by Melo but they still have a chance to get him anyway? And if NY does what most would find logical, that is walking away, they would fall into NJ and Denver's master plan of making Melo accept NJ?

This is crazy!

NY shouldn't walk away, instead they should go back to their first offer, leaving Felton and Gallinari out. Tell them its the last offer and let them get crazy convinving Melo to stay or accept NJ. Only way the Knicks can fairly accept this ridiculous situation.

I'm with you. This is just too much. If we were smart, we'd ignore all these damn rumors for the next four days and trust Donnie to do his job (yeah, yeah, Dolan, I know), but we're taking the bait and bending over the second something new pops on twitter!

Denver can play their games for the next four days. "The line has been drawn." Hold your ground, Donnie! I have absolutely no problems going to battle with this team, as is, for the next 28 games.

GO KNICKS!

fishmike wrote:

VDesai wrote:I do agree that most of the leaks are coming from the Nets and this is their tactic

do you (or anyone) see that being a factor to Walsh? He's got self conviction and a healthy streak of self rightousness. He's going to make a deal HE wants to make or he wont make one. He can walk away today and run 10 teams in this league.

fish... gallo and chandler are gone.. Dolan has set that in motion.. No backing out now... at this point, it comes down to this deal not just being horrible, but the degree of horrible... how bad can this get...?

Knicksfan wrote:I dare a hollywood writer to make a more twisted and crazy script than this one. We are all being held hostage to the easily manipulated and uninformative media, who seem to love being played by Denver and New Jersey. This is such a ridiculous situation that imagining Denver and New Jersey executives sitting in a room laughing like silly 70's villains while they torture NY isn't out of the realm of possibilities anymore.

So let me get this straight: Denver manipulates the media so Dolan brain-farts into giving up a fair deal. But that isn't enough, Denver wants more so they could flip the players to NJ, who wont be extended by Melo but they still have a chance to get him anyway? And if NY does what most would find logical, that is walking away, they would fall into NJ and Denver's master plan of making Melo accept NJ?

This is crazy!

NY shouldn't walk away, instead they should go back to their first offer, leaving Felton and Gallinari out. Tell them its the last offer and let them get crazy convinving Melo to stay or accept NJ. Only way the Knicks can fairly accept this ridiculous situation.

I would be fine with your plan. Original offer, come what may.

Walk away from this stinker now, Donnie. Save your dignity. Phuck Dolan if he can't sand losing a starphuck opportunity. Relish the respect you have garnered in your wonderful accomplishments and step away from this pile of poo.

That Jersey Nets under Ratner is not the Brooklyn NYets of Prokhorov?

What Dolan suck as is how hard it is to cultivate talent. Think of the time, energy and money that went into Moz and just as the guy is starting to play he COULD throw him in to get his little toy. Think what that does to his scouts, coachs and GM? Sure they pay these guys but you know somtimes its cool to see the hard work pay off and become tangable.

And Brooklyn is not Jersey. If Gallo and Mozzy end up on Nets I'd have to laugh my ass off. NYers you should be happy. You can root for both teams to do well and it keeps the interest up. IF Dolan is just going to starhuch he'll have a short window to enjoy the fruits of it but if the Russian INVESTS long term he will build something lasting.

Dolan seems to act like a little reactive premature ejaculator who gets what he wants.

Nets will win over many fans. HE is playing chess with dolan and little jimmy does not realize he is getting played.

If this is all true then Prokhorov is winning points with me. Think I won't tune in to root for Gallo and Mozzy?

crzymdups wrote:i still don't believe the nuggets are negotiating in good faith with the knicks. i think the mozgov request and the routing players to the nets leak are just bull**** intended to try to push the knicks away from the table once and for all so the nuggz can say, "look, melo, we tried, the knicks just wouldn't play ball. now how about this nets offer?"

agree