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2/20/2011  10:55 PM
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It's going to happen. You all know it.

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Get over it! It is not about them! It's about Melo. Why would he allow us to gut our team like this and he is playing dumb and bummer. Let go home forget Melo. and stop connecting Isaih to this deal. It ain't about him. It's about Melo and maybe he don't want to come to New York. Is the 65 million worth playing for the Nets? If it is then take the money and let us be.

You love him! YOU get over it.

These 2 men are running this trade. Of course in your mind Isiah Thomas can do no wrong so he obviously wouldn't be involved.

Papabear Says

OK Mr. Smarty What can Isaih and Dolan do??? Denver does not want to do business with us so what is it that Dolan and Isaih is doing??

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2/20/2011  10:55 PM
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Knixkik wrote:We are getting rid of a lot, and it sucks. Adding Mozgov to the deal makes it difficult because collectively it is so much to lose. But at the end of the day, Mozgov can and should not be the deal-breaker. He has some upside, but is an projected rotation player at best. Also, Sheldon Williams inclusion in the deal will somewhat supplement it. We should wait this thing out, but cannot let Mozgov get in the way of this deal. We are still retaining Fields, who is our best prospect along with Gallo. Just the fact that we are keeping one of the two is great.

No no no no--thats a deal breaker--its not the one piece its the collective.. walkway dolan and go to FA. f ridiculous now. I was going to back the trade of what was mentioned but this tipped the boat. If someone argues that Mosgov shouldnt be a deal beaker---you havent been in business a long time.
the volume of talented young assets is way too much if we give up Mosgov--its collective not one piece.

The volume of talent does not equal Melo in any way. Let's not overrate what we have here. We have very good young player, but no superstar talents. We have 2 great young chips in Gallo and Fields, we would only be trading 1. If you shop this entire package of players around the league, you won't get a player anywhere near as good as Melo, let alone Billups too, who is a 5-time all-star and finals MVP. Sometimes you have to take chances. I'm willing to chance a superstar for a group of good role players.

You sound like an idiot. Mosgov 24 gallo 22 WC 22 Randolph 21 felton 26 pick 2014. My man you dont give up a whole team for a non 5. If it was 23 YO Shaq--i would do it--this has tipped the scales--dont be s tupid think about it.

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BRIGGS wrote:Walsh and dantoni need to threaten walking away from their jobs right now to save the franchise. People risk their lives for democracy--these guys can give up money for what is right.

We are living in reality, not fantasy land. Nobody walks away from millions, especially millions a moron who is undermining you is giving.

Walsh will quit at the end of the year.

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2/20/2011  10:56 PM
Knixkik wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:We are getting rid of a lot, and it sucks. Adding Mozgov to the deal makes it difficult because collectively it is so much to lose. But at the end of the day, Mozgov can and should not be the deal-breaker. He has some upside, but is an projected rotation player at best. Also, Sheldon Williams inclusion in the deal will somewhat supplement it. We should wait this thing out, but cannot let Mozgov get in the way of this deal. We are still retaining Fields, who is our best prospect along with Gallo. Just the fact that we are keeping one of the two is great.

No no no no--thats a deal breaker--its not the one piece its the collective.. walkway dolan and go to FA. f ridiculous now. I was going to back the trade of what was mentioned but this tipped the boat. If someone argues that Mosgov shouldnt be a deal beaker---you havent been in business a long time.
the volume of talented young assets is way too much if we give up Mosgov--its collective not one piece.

The volume of talent does not equal Melo in any way. Let's not overrate what we have here. We have very good young player, but no superstar talents. We have 2 great young chips in Gallo and Fields, we would only be trading 1. If you shop this entire package of players around the league, you won't get a player anywhere near as good as Melo, let alone Billups too, who is a 5-time all-star and finals MVP. Sometimes you have to take chances. I'm willing to chance a superstar for a group of good role players.

Not to mention, a deal for Melo almost solidifies Paul or Williams in NY.

No guarantee on this, especially with the new CBA coming up.

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2/20/2011  10:57 PM
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:

It's going to happen. You all know it.

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Papabear Says

Get over it! It is not about them! It's about Melo. Why would he allow us to gut our team like this and he is playing dumb and bummer. Let go home forget Melo. and stop connecting Isaih to this deal. It ain't about him. It's about Melo and maybe he don't want to come to New York. Is the 65 million worth playing for the Nets? If it is then take the money and let us be.

You love him! YOU get over it.

These 2 men are running this trade. Of course in your mind Isiah Thomas can do no wrong so he obviously wouldn't be involved.

Papabear Says

OK Mr. Smarty What can Isaih and Dolan do??? Denver does not want to do business with us so what is it that Dolan and Isaih is doing??

Denver does want to do business with us. They will take everything they want from Dolan and Isiah when all is said and done.

"Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
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2/20/2011  10:57 PM
Marv and Crew talking about how Walsh is getting screwed...
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2/20/2011  10:58 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Walsh and dantoni need to threaten walking away from their jobs right now to save the franchise. People risk their lives for democracy--these guys can give up money for what is right.

We are living in reality, not fantasy land. Nobody walks away from millions, especially millions a moron who is undermining you is giving.

Walsh will quit at the end of the year.

Walsh may not need the $$, and MDA is sure to get another gig. Not saying they should do such a thing, especially MDA, but Walsh could easily do it and not lose any face in the process.

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2/20/2011  10:58 PM
blkexec wrote:Melo can't defend, can't create off the dribble, he doesn't pass, he holds the ball...

If Melo wants to be part of that future, he will take a hit with his funds (like he buddy's in Miami did) and head into FA. Commercials and enforcements will make up the difference in NYC. Thats not the case in Miami....

Just want to say these posts are my favorite.

"Melo sucks... let's sign him as a free agent!!!"
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2/20/2011  10:58 PM
VDesai wrote:Marv and Crew talking about how Walsh is getting screwed...

And what a surprise, Steve Kerr talking about how Amar'e and Melo can't work together.
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2/20/2011  11:01 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:

It's going to happen. You all know it.

Resident Evil I and II

Papabear Says

Get over it! It is not about them! It's about Melo. Why would he allow us to gut our team like this and he is playing dumb and bummer. Let go home forget Melo. and stop connecting Isaih to this deal. It ain't about him. It's about Melo and maybe he don't want to come to New York. Is the 65 million worth playing for the Nets? If it is then take the money and let us be.

You love him! YOU get over it.

These 2 men are running this trade. Of course in your mind Isiah Thomas can do no wrong so he obviously wouldn't be involved.

Papabear Says

OK Mr. Smarty What can Isaih and Dolan do??? Denver does not want to do business with us so what is it that Dolan and Isaih is doing??

Denver does want to do business with us. They will take everything they want from Dolan and Isiah when all is said and done.

Papabear Says

Ok you tell me what should we give up and draw the line?

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2/20/2011  11:01 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Walsh and dantoni need to threaten walking away from their jobs right now to save the franchise. People risk their lives for democracy--these guys can give up money for what is right.

We are living in reality, not fantasy land. Nobody walks away from millions, especially millions a moron who is undermining you is giving.

Walsh will quit at the end of the year.

Walsh may not need the $$, and MDA is sure to get another gig. Not saying they should do such a thing, especially MDA, but Walsh could easily do it and not lose any face in the process.

I would not sacrifice my name with a career that has spanned 30+ years for money. People might not understand but if you have 14mm in the bank versus 18 it isnt changing anything. When you die its your name not the extra 4mm

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2/20/2011  11:03 PM
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:

It's going to happen. You all know it.

Resident Evil I and II

Papabear Says

Get over it! It is not about them! It's about Melo. Why would he allow us to gut our team like this and he is playing dumb and bummer. Let go home forget Melo. and stop connecting Isaih to this deal. It ain't about him. It's about Melo and maybe he don't want to come to New York. Is the 65 million worth playing for the Nets? If it is then take the money and let us be.

You love him! YOU get over it.

These 2 men are running this trade. Of course in your mind Isiah Thomas can do no wrong so he obviously wouldn't be involved.

Papabear Says

OK Mr. Smarty What can Isaih and Dolan do??? Denver does not want to do business with us so what is it that Dolan and Isaih is doing??

Denver does want to do business with us. They will take everything they want from Dolan and Isiah when all is said and done.

Papabear Says

Ok you tell me what should we give up and draw the line?

Chandler, Randolph, Curry and add in Mozgov if need be. That's the most I'd go up to.

No Felton, no Fields, no Gallinari.

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2/20/2011  11:05 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:

It's going to happen. You all know it.

Oh god you're right.

The new new core: Randle, RJ, IQ. Maybe Mitch. Future pick. Future trade. Future FA.
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2/20/2011  11:06 PM
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blkexec wrote:Melo can't defend, can't create off the dribble, he doesn't pass, he holds the ball...

If Melo wants to be part of that future, he will take a hit with his funds (like he buddy's in Miami did) and head into FA. Commercials and enforcements will make up the difference in NYC. Thats not the case in Miami....

Just want to say these posts are my favorite.

"Melo sucks... let's sign him as a free agent!!!"

I'm not a big fan of melo and stat....And I think melo is overrated. But he's still better than:

Galo
Chandler
timofey
Fields
Felton
AR
Curry
2014 1st round

I know knick fans are like that ho on the street thats been focked for 10 plus years, with nothing to show. But please, wake up people and learn from the Spurs!

I would even think twice about trading MJ for those players....And eventually would do it.

But for Melo? R U serious?

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2/20/2011  11:07 PM
I say **** it. Do whatever you want Denver.
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2/20/2011  11:08 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:

It's going to happen. You all know it.

Resident Evil I and II

Papabear Says

Get over it! It is not about them! It's about Melo. Why would he allow us to gut our team like this and he is playing dumb and bummer. Let go home forget Melo. and stop connecting Isaih to this deal. It ain't about him. It's about Melo and maybe he don't want to come to New York. Is the 65 million worth playing for the Nets? If it is then take the money and let us be.

You love him! YOU get over it.

These 2 men are running this trade. Of course in your mind Isiah Thomas can do no wrong so he obviously wouldn't be involved.

Papabear Says

OK Mr. Smarty What can Isaih and Dolan do??? Denver does not want to do business with us so what is it that Dolan and Isaih is doing??

Denver does want to do business with us. They will take everything they want from Dolan and Isiah when all is said and done.

Papabear Says

Ok you tell me what should we give up and draw the line?

Chandler, Randolph, Curry and add in Mozgov if need be. That's the most I'd go up to.

No Felton, no Fields, no Gallinari.

Papabear Says

Hey everyone Childs2Dudley want's to give up Chandler, Randolph (who we won't play) and big fat Curry for Melo. Good luck because Walsh knows that deal could not work. Man you are dreaming.

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2/20/2011  11:08 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:We are getting rid of a lot, and it sucks. Adding Mozgov to the deal makes it difficult because collectively it is so much to lose. But at the end of the day, Mozgov can and should not be the deal-breaker. He has some upside, but is an projected rotation player at best. Also, Sheldon Williams inclusion in the deal will somewhat supplement it. We should wait this thing out, but cannot let Mozgov get in the way of this deal. We are still retaining Fields, who is our best prospect along with Gallo. Just the fact that we are keeping one of the two is great.

No no no no--thats a deal breaker--its not the one piece its the collective.. walkway dolan and go to FA. f ridiculous now. I was going to back the trade of what was mentioned but this tipped the boat. If someone argues that Mosgov shouldnt be a deal beaker---you havent been in business a long time.
the volume of talented young assets is way too much if we give up Mosgov--its collective not one piece.

The volume of talent does not equal Melo in any way. Let's not overrate what we have here. We have very good young player, but no superstar talents. We have 2 great young chips in Gallo and Fields, we would only be trading 1. If you shop this entire package of players around the league, you won't get a player anywhere near as good as Melo, let alone Billups too, who is a 5-time all-star and finals MVP. Sometimes you have to take chances. I'm willing to chance a superstar for a group of good role players.

You sound like an idiot. Mosgov 24 gallo 22 WC 22 Randolph 21 felton 26 pick 2014. My man you dont give up a whole team for a non 5. If it was 23 YO Shaq--i would do it--this has tipped the scales--dont be s tupid think about it.

I can't believe some of you are content being stuck as a mediocre team. What is the plan going forward? Wait for our players to develop into great role players while Stoudemire's prime fades away? It is time to take a chance and get stars. We have an opportunity to add 2 more in the next 2 years. Let's go for it. We are not letting role players get in the way. We are retaining arguable our best young player in Fields and have a mid first round pick this summer to add talent. You have to give to get. Read this article if you need a second opinion. Mozgov, Gallo, and Chandler are not the answer to winning a championship in the near future.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?columnist=oconnor_ian&id=6142327
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2/20/2011  11:10 PM
GUYS WHAT YOU FAIL TO REALIZE IS THAT DENVER HAS NO INTENTION OF TRADING WITH THE KNICKS.
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2/20/2011  11:12 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Walsh and dantoni need to threaten walking away from their jobs right now to save the franchise. People risk their lives for democracy--these guys can give up money for what is right.

We are living in reality, not fantasy land. Nobody walks away from millions, especially millions a moron who is undermining you is giving.

Walsh will quit at the end of the year.

Walsh may not need the $$, and MDA is sure to get another gig. Not saying they should do such a thing, especially MDA, but Walsh could easily do it and not lose any face in the process.

I would not sacrifice my name with a career that has spanned 30+ years for money. People might not understand but if you have 14mm in the bank versus 18 it isnt changing anything. When you die its your name not the extra 4mm


Yup.

Walsh would have to be the one to go, though- MDA would have to wait until the end of the season- he has a team which, in some ways, depends on him, and at the very least he owes his players a full season behind the bench.

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2/20/2011  11:12 PM
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
Papabear wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:

It's going to happen. You all know it.

Resident Evil I and II

Papabear Says

Get over it! It is not about them! It's about Melo. Why would he allow us to gut our team like this and he is playing dumb and bummer. Let go home forget Melo. and stop connecting Isaih to this deal. It ain't about him. It's about Melo and maybe he don't want to come to New York. Is the 65 million worth playing for the Nets? If it is then take the money and let us be.

You love him! YOU get over it.

These 2 men are running this trade. Of course in your mind Isiah Thomas can do no wrong so he obviously wouldn't be involved.

Papabear Says

OK Mr. Smarty What can Isaih and Dolan do??? Denver does not want to do business with us so what is it that Dolan and Isaih is doing??

Denver does want to do business with us. They will take everything they want from Dolan and Isiah when all is said and done.

Papabear Says

Ok you tell me what should we give up and draw the line?

Chandler, Randolph, Curry and add in Mozgov if need be. That's the most I'd go up to.

No Felton, no Fields, no Gallinari.

Papabear Says

Hey everyone Childs2Dudley want's to give up Chandler, Randolph (who we won't play) and big fat Curry for Melo. Good luck because Walsh knows that deal could not work. Man you are dreaming.

I don't think you can read. I think you need to go back to school. Focus more on reading and less on talking in third person when you post.

Have fun riding on Isiah's jock.

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