If all the reports are true and Melo is clueless than its really puts Denver in a bind.

If melo says no then what? We become the chimp and Denver is the Frog?

Is this really that simple? Would Prokhorov really put himself into a position to be humiliated without any assurances prior?

Markji wrote:

martin wrote:

Markji wrote:

martin wrote:So this is what NJ looks like after 2011/12 season when CP3/Williams/Dwight come free. All would command $16M+.

Melo		20
Outlaw		7
Morrow		4
Farmer		4.25
Petro		3.5
Brook		4.2
Brook Hold	5.25
Balkman		1.65
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		49.85

Maybe the Nets could move Balkman, Farmer but that would cost them. And the $49M does not include picks, cap holds for roster spots, prob push the $49M number up to ~$52. Maybe the cap in 2 years is $64M IF everything goes swimmingly for the league.

Nets still in tough spot to add second star.

They have 1 1/2 years. They probably could trade Outlaw also by adding a pick and/or throwing in $3 cash. We see that the Russian is serious about spending money; taking risks; and building a winning team.

They would have 1 year. And didn't the Nets just trade 4 picks? Where the heck are they going to get enough to trade a $7M contract for a player who is almost completely useless?

They'll have til the summer of 2012. But this is a minor point in this whole thread. I don't see the cap space a problem for the Nets to sign another star FA in 2012. Let's see what Melo says this weekend, and let's hope Dolan doesn't go ballistic and gut the entire team to get Melo.

I just put up the raw numbers to suggest that it would be VERY hard for them to sign a free agent with cap space. Why would you suggest otherwise?

martin wrote:

Markji wrote:

martin wrote:

Markji wrote:

martin wrote:So this is what NJ looks like after 2011/12 season when CP3/Williams/Dwight come free. All would command $16M+.

Melo		20
Outlaw		7
Morrow		4
Farmer		4.25
Petro		3.5
Brook		4.2
Brook Hold	5.25
Balkman		1.65
-------------------
		49.85

Maybe the Nets could move Balkman, Farmer but that would cost them. And the $49M does not include picks, cap holds for roster spots, prob push the $49M number up to ~$52. Maybe the cap in 2 years is $64M IF everything goes swimmingly for the league.

Nets still in tough spot to add second star.

They have 1 1/2 years. They probably could trade Outlaw also by adding a pick and/or throwing in $3 cash. We see that the Russian is serious about spending money; taking risks; and building a winning team.

They would have 1 year. And didn't the Nets just trade 4 picks? Where the heck are they going to get enough to trade a $7M contract for a player who is almost completely useless?

They'll have til the summer of 2012. But this is a minor point in this whole thread. I don't see the cap space a problem for the Nets to sign another star FA in 2012. Let's see what Melo says this weekend, and let's hope Dolan doesn't go ballistic and gut the entire team to get Melo.

I just put up the raw numbers to suggest that it would be VERY hard for them to sign a free agent with cap space. Why would you suggest otherwise?

BRIGGS wrote:This is the best scenario

Either Melo takes the deal or he doesnt

That way if he does not agree we offer a very small yet reasonable package chandler randolph or we wait until FA and get him for 0.

If he does we move on. Id like to see us get Frye Grant Hill and Sessions.

With the need to get bigger up front, why would you want to get softer with Frye and older with Grant Hill?

Uptown wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This is the best scenario

Either Melo takes the deal or he doesnt

That way if he does not agree we offer a very small yet reasonable package chandler randolph or we wait until FA and get him for 0.

If he does we move on. Id like to see us get Frye Grant Hill and Sessions.

With the need to get bigger up front, why would you want to get softer with Frye and older with Grant Hill?

Id take Frye and Sessions for long term quality vets at positions of weakness. Grant Hill is still playing great and would be an awesome upgrade for the bench.

If Melo goes to Jersey, first, he is a moron for going to such a terrible team, just so he can have a few extra million. I mean just look at how the big three got together. Second, as others here have pointed out, they are going to have trouble signing another star in 2012. Even if they get one, it's going to take a strong supporting cast (like what we currently have) to help Melo and Star get anywhere. Melo is already playing with a pretty good team and where have they gone? I just can't believe this is about a few extra million that Melo could make up for by just playing for the Knicks. "Me"lo he should be called...

I'm fine with not trading the team for Melo. Offer Chandler, a first (via AR), Curry and maybe some of our lesser players plus the Felton Hamilton swap (only cause I haven't been impressed with Feltons ball hogging.)

That’s one of the reasons the Nets are including four first-round picks to get Anthony. It’s the Nets' pick this year as well as the Lakers', which is protected 1-through-18, and Houston’s and Golden State’s next year. Both have varying degrees of protection so there is no guarantee the Nets would have used them next year either.

The picks will amount to crap, unless the protections wear off in time, but that won't help Denver anytime soon. 4 first round picks sound good, but upon further inspection, nada.

Good deal for Denver though for there situation if they get to pull it off.

As for the knicks. I would start to look at Iggy by swapping Curry out. Then look to S&T Chandler for a quality F/C. Then target Freddette(spell with the pick we get from Minny and our own dangle Douglas as well).

With that said I don't see him looking to extend with the Nets

MSG3 wrote:Hahn also reports that the thing holding up Knicks deal is including Galinari. Depending on what else they want that would suck if he was the one that held us from getting Melo. DEPENDING on what else they want......

maybe im crazy (well i know i am) but my guess is that if donnie knew gallo would get the deal done he'd trade him. i suspect walsh has assurances from melo's camp that he'll only sign an extension with the knicks, therefore including gallinari would be pointless. just my guess though.