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2/1/2004  10:17 AM
Posted by bigblitz2001:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Real Test is Tuesday vs the Pacers.

The Real test is NOT on Tues.
The Knicks should lose on Tues. They are not in the Pacers class. The real test is the games they won the last two days. They beat teams they should beat on the road and in back to back situations. The knicks are 1 all star post up player away from competing with the detroits and pacers of the east.

If the knicks play like the 3rd or 4th best team in the east they pass the test as far as I am concerned. To say playing the pacers and losing is failing the test is not fair.

I wanna see Knicks beat Pacers! I wanna see Knicks beat Pacers! Why not, I think they can make it close and beat them up. Tinsley and Artest has Knicks envy just like Starbury used to. Bring it on!!
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2/1/2004  11:36 AM
Posted by bigblitz2001:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Real Test is Tuesday vs the Pacers.

The Real test is NOT on Tues.
The Knicks should lose on Tues. They are not in the Pacers class.
Hate to tell ya but the real test is on Tuesday. Knicks seem to handle the mediocre teams. Apparently, they're not winning games vs the Elite and The Pacers are one of the elites

The real test is the games they won the last two days. They beat teams they should beat on the road and in back to back situations.
As of late, the knicks have been winning on the road and the back to back wins are piling up for the Knickerbockers. I think this was the 3rd consecutive back to back wins for the knicks

The knicks are 1 all star post up player away from competing with the detroits and pacers of the east.
They could be one, two or even three all- star post-up players away from competing against the pacers but what really matters is executing fundamentally vs those teams elite teams and learning to close out those teams at the end of games.

If the knicks play like the 3rd or 4th best team in the east they
pass the test as far as I am concerned. To say playing the pacers and losing is failing the test is not fair.
It would not be considered failing, no one was indicating that. The point is now having marbury/Penney on this team along with Lenny as coach, The team is beginning to gel chemistry wise. They're playing better defense and with more confidence. They've been beting the so-so teams and we would like to see how they'll perform vs the Elites such as the pacers.

[Edited by - WOODMANnYk on 02/01/2004 11:38:50]
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2/1/2004  11:58 AM
Ever stop to think that they are not beating elite teams because they just dont have the talent to compete with them. It is an accomplishment to beat mediocre teams because the knicks talent wise arent much better. Beating these mediocre teams means they are winning games they should win.

Saying this is a test means that if they lose they fail. Tests are either passed or failed. If they lose to the pacers what does that prove. NOTHING, thats why this is not a test game. Test games are against the celtics, sixers, toronto, miami, etc....teams that are like the knicks trying to get to the playoffs. Going to the finals with this team is just unrealistic.

I will root for a win but a loss will not change anything. This is a team on the rise looking to make more moves either before the trading deadline or after the season to make a run at a championship. As is this is not a Championship team.
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2/1/2004  12:22 PM
Posted by bigblitz2001:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Real Test is Tuesday vs the Pacers.

The Real test is NOT on Tues.
The Knicks should lose on Tues. They are not in the Pacers class. The real test is the games they won the last two days. They beat teams they should beat on the road and in back to back situations. The knicks are 1 all star post up player away from competing with the detroits and pacers of the east.

If the knicks play like the 3rd or 4th best team in the east they pass the test as far as I am concerned. To say playing the pacers and losing is failing the test is not fair.
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2/1/2004  12:34 PM
Posted by bigblitz2001:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Real Test is Tuesday vs the Pacers.

The Real test is NOT on Tues.
The Knicks should lose on Tues. They are not in the Pacers class. The real test is the games they won the last two days. They beat teams they should beat on the road and in back to back situations. The knicks are 1 all star post up player away from competing with the detroits and pacers of the east.

If the knicks play like the 3rd or 4th best team in the east they pass the test as far as I am concerned. To say playing the pacers and losing is failing the test is not fair.

I am in line with this thinking.

To date, the Knicks have had their starting lineup, bench, coach and GM changed since the beginning of the season. Their most important player, the one who runs the plays, and has the rock in his hands is still learning the sets and getting used to the finer points of his teammates (as in: most of his teammates can't catch a fast past).

For the most part, both Detroit and Indiana have been together for more than a season. They have coheasive teams.

The Knicks have talent and are working their way towards good team play. THey should beat bad teams and it's telling that they can. If they can consistently beat the Indianas and Detroits, that would be telling. That they win a one-off, that's a fluke. And that is what is happening (or could happen).
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2/1/2004  4:13 PM
Posted by simrud:

Nice game by Penny, once again he has 2 blocks and it is becoming a great mistery of why in the world is he blocking people more then OH can dream of, the dude is like 6'7" former PG. Every time he blocks a shot its like what?!?

After watching Penny play I am starting to be convinced he is one of the smarter basketball players in the league. Plays the passing lanes very well, uses the angles, great positioning for rebounds, smart blocking, very good passer. He is just not the athlete he used to be.
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2/1/2004  5:19 PM
Posted by bigblitz2001:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Real Test is Tuesday vs the Pacers.

The Real test is NOT on Tues.
The Knicks should lose on Tues. They are not in the Pacers class. The real test is the games they won the last two days. They beat teams they should beat on the road and in back to back situations. The knicks are 1 all star post up player away from competing with the detroits and pacers of the east.

If the knicks play like the 3rd or 4th best team in the east they pass the test as far as I am concerned. To say playing the pacers and losing is failing the test is not fair.

Can't agreee with you any more. Right on with those thoughts.Can't wait for some big athletic dude.
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