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2/11/2011  11:37 AM
I would do Chandler, Gallo, AR, and Curry's corpse for Melo. Reason being Gallo over Fields is that Fields can play the SG position, Melo at SF and we can slide Moz into the C position although he is probably not ready for it. Love Gallo but we can find people to replicate his skill set in the offseason. I just feel that Fields brings so much of the intangibles that championship caliber teams always have that you can't part with him.

Ideally I would like to pull back AR can see if he can be develop but he is so far in the doghouse it may be best for him to go somewhere where he will have more of an opportunity to get minutes.

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2/11/2011  11:42 AM
Amar'e, Melo, + Gallo = NYK Mafia

You realize with Melo and Amar'e getting doubled that Gallo will be wide open.

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2/11/2011  11:44 AM
masud wrote:Melo is obviously gonna play the 4 under D'Antoni. Come on yall...

I see this more as an argument to get rid of D'Antoni than not to get Melo.

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2/11/2011  11:58 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Gallo Chandler Randolph +2014 1 for Melo

I use Fields in that trade rather than Gallo. I offer Gallo and filler to Houston for Kevin Martin. I think Fields is more a product of the system than most players. I think Kevin Martin at the SG is better than Gallo as a tweener, sharing the same natural position at Melo. I would also be willing to include Felton and Azubuike for Billups, though I really wonder whether Billups can handle the pace of this team. The question is whether you empty the bench to add Billups to the deal for Denver's benefit.

We would still need a backup PG and C, but the 2011/2012 season looks like a real competitive squad if we can pick up sold vets in the offseason.

Felton or Billups
Martin
Melo
Amare
Mozgov

Long story short, I'm ready to move Gallo in a deal for Kevin Martin.

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2/11/2011  1:36 PM
giantfan216 wrote:I would do Chandler, Gallo, AR, and Curry's corpse for Melo. Reason being Gallo over Fields is that Fields can play the SG position, Melo at SF and we can slide Moz into the C position although he is probably not ready for it. Love Gallo but we can find people to replicate his skill set in the offseason. I just feel that Fields brings so much of the intangibles that championship caliber teams always have that you can't part with him.

Ideally I would like to pull back AR can see if he can be develop but he is so far in the doghouse it may be best for him to go somewhere where he will have more of an opportunity to get minutes.

find someone to replace Gallo? Like who?
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2/11/2011  1:42 PM
fishmike wrote:
giantfan216 wrote:I would do Chandler, Gallo, AR, and Curry's corpse for Melo. Reason being Gallo over Fields is that Fields can play the SG position, Melo at SF and we can slide Moz into the C position although he is probably not ready for it. Love Gallo but we can find people to replicate his skill set in the offseason. I just feel that Fields brings so much of the intangibles that championship caliber teams always have that you can't part with him.

Ideally I would like to pull back AR can see if he can be develop but he is so far in the doghouse it may be best for him to go somewhere where he will have more of an opportunity to get minutes.

find someone to replace Gallo? Like who?

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2/11/2011  1:49 PM
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2/11/2011  2:00 PM
fishmike wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
MooK wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
MooK wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
MooK wrote:You keeping Fields over Gallo?...tough call cause both are a good fit, but I'd keep Gallo.

I would keep Fields over Gallo too. Fields is the best in the lwague at his position at something. Gallo is great one game and mediocre the next three

I don't think you can go wrong with either player but ultimately I like Gallo better. I like his shooting, driving, passing, and defense more. The only real knock on him is he's inconsistent. He'd be deadly if you added Melo and Billups to this team.

gallo and melo both play the 3. i'd rather keep fields. doesn't need the ball to be successful. WAY more consistent as a rookie than these guys.

Fields is more consistent in his role, but he's not asked to do as much. Both players fit but I really like Gallo's versatility, especially on defense.

yea but who's he gonna be guarding? melo is gonna guard 3s. 2s are too quick for gallo.in my view, gallo and chandler are both redundant with melo.

fields isn't asked to do much and yet he's arguably the knicks best rebounder. he isn't asked to do much but he has been more consistent than gallo and chandler all year. fields always makes the right pass, has a nose for the ball, and actually fits at the 2. i don't think we've seen the ceiling from fields.

if it were another player i'd probably rank it differently but melo is a 3, so is gallo, so is chandler. let's keep fields.

you know when the Knicks started to come back on the Clippers? When Gallo started guarding Baron Davis. We have seen this several times from him and its not acknowledged around here because for some reason people really like to hate on Gallo above all other players. Its looks like vmart and sergio's anti Gallo campain is finally working. Gallo is a 6'10 guy who has shown he can guard smaller quicker players. He's got great court vision. He's ultra crafty getting to the line and while is game is somewhat limited to long jumpers and drives to the lane he's damn good at both. He's also awesome on the break and is one of our highest IQ players.

To me the formula is simple... we need to keep Mosgov and Gallo. Gallo spreads the floor and Mosgov is the size and athleticism upfront we are so desperate for. Neither Mos or Gallo are ready for a title run yet, but both are maturing quickly, both work very hard and are dedicated to improving on BOTH sides of the ball.

I like both Chandler and Fields, but they are easier to find then a 6'10 wing who can guard 1s, 2s and 3s, spread the floor and get to the line or a 7'1 skilled athletic true center.

The lineup you want to go to war with is this:
PG Felton
SG Melo 6'8
SF Gallo 6'10
PF Amare 6'10
C Mosgov 7'1

Thats a starting line up with elite skill and athleticism. You want to be elite you create huge mismatches every night.

Gallo draws and ASKS to guard the opposing teams best scorer every night. Is he a lock down defender? Obviously not, but he is certainly effective playing that role. Melo, Amare and Gallo are a legit big 3 with Mos and Felton bringing huge things themselves. Your not going to find better depth than that.

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2/11/2011  2:06 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
MooK wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
MooK wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
MooK wrote:You keeping Fields over Gallo?...tough call cause both are a good fit, but I'd keep Gallo.

I would keep Fields over Gallo too. Fields is the best in the lwague at his position at something. Gallo is great one game and mediocre the next three

I don't think you can go wrong with either player but ultimately I like Gallo better. I like his shooting, driving, passing, and defense more. The only real knock on him is he's inconsistent. He'd be deadly if you added Melo and Billups to this team.

gallo and melo both play the 3. i'd rather keep fields. doesn't need the ball to be successful. WAY more consistent as a rookie than these guys.

Fields is more consistent in his role, but he's not asked to do as much. Both players fit but I really like Gallo's versatility, especially on defense.

yea but who's he gonna be guarding? melo is gonna guard 3s. 2s are too quick for gallo.in my view, gallo and chandler are both redundant with melo.

fields isn't asked to do much and yet he's arguably the knicks best rebounder. he isn't asked to do much but he has been more consistent than gallo and chandler all year. fields always makes the right pass, has a nose for the ball, and actually fits at the 2. i don't think we've seen the ceiling from fields.

if it were another player i'd probably rank it differently but melo is a 3, so is gallo, so is chandler. let's keep fields.

you know when the Knicks started to come back on the Clippers? When Gallo started guarding Baron Davis. We have seen this several times from him and its not acknowledged around here because for some reason people really like to hate on Gallo above all other players. Its looks like vmart and sergio's anti Gallo campain is finally working. Gallo is a 6'10 guy who has shown he can guard smaller quicker players. He's got great court vision. He's ultra crafty getting to the line and while is game is somewhat limited to long jumpers and drives to the lane he's damn good at both. He's also awesome on the break and is one of our highest IQ players.

To me the formula is simple... we need to keep Mosgov and Gallo. Gallo spreads the floor and Mosgov is the size and athleticism upfront we are so desperate for. Neither Mos or Gallo are ready for a title run yet, but both are maturing quickly, both work very hard and are dedicated to improving on BOTH sides of the ball.

I like both Chandler and Fields, but they are easier to find then a 6'10 wing who can guard 1s, 2s and 3s, spread the floor and get to the line or a 7'1 skilled athletic true center.

The lineup you want to go to war with is this:
PG Felton
SG Melo 6'8
SF Gallo 6'10
PF Amare 6'10
C Mosgov 7'1

Thats a starting line up with elite skill and athleticism. You want to be elite you create huge mismatches every night.

Gallo draws and ASKS to guard the opposing teams best scorer every night. Is he a lock down defender? Obviously not, but he is certainly effective playing that role. Melo, Amare and Gallo are a legit big 3 with Mos and Felton bringing huge things themselves. Your not going to find better depth than that.

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2/11/2011  2:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2011  2:08 PM
Fields is a nice player and has the potential to be very good. You sell that to Denver as he is cheap, young and good. IMO, Gallo has more Bball IQ than Fields and IMO, a bigger upside. Gallo can be the 3rd wheel to Melo and Stat and still average 16 points a game on 8-10 shots. He will also up his assists.

Fields, Chandler, No 1, Curry and Az for $$ relief. This gives Denver potentially 3 good young players and cap room to sign a few good players. If they insisted on Felton for Billups, I would do it.

No to Mozgov unless they are giving us Nene back.

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2/11/2011  2:13 PM
I know Denver will be asking for everything, but why do they want Fields when they have Afflalo and Gary Forbes, both of whom they really like?
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2/11/2011  2:28 PM
fishmike wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
MooK wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
MooK wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
MooK wrote:You keeping Fields over Gallo?...tough call cause both are a good fit, but I'd keep Gallo.

I would keep Fields over Gallo too. Fields is the best in the lwague at his position at something. Gallo is great one game and mediocre the next three

I don't think you can go wrong with either player but ultimately I like Gallo better. I like his shooting, driving, passing, and defense more. The only real knock on him is he's inconsistent. He'd be deadly if you added Melo and Billups to this team.

gallo and melo both play the 3. i'd rather keep fields. doesn't need the ball to be successful. WAY more consistent as a rookie than these guys.

Fields is more consistent in his role, but he's not asked to do as much. Both players fit but I really like Gallo's versatility, especially on defense.

yea but who's he gonna be guarding? melo is gonna guard 3s. 2s are too quick for gallo.in my view, gallo and chandler are both redundant with melo.

fields isn't asked to do much and yet he's arguably the knicks best rebounder. he isn't asked to do much but he has been more consistent than gallo and chandler all year. fields always makes the right pass, has a nose for the ball, and actually fits at the 2. i don't think we've seen the ceiling from fields.

if it were another player i'd probably rank it differently but melo is a 3, so is gallo, so is chandler. let's keep fields.

you know when the Knicks started to come back on the Clippers? When Gallo started guarding Baron Davis. We have seen this several times from him and its not acknowledged around here because for some reason people really like to hate on Gallo above all other players. Its looks like vmart and sergio's anti Gallo campain is finally working. Gallo is a 6'10 guy who has shown he can guard smaller quicker players. He's got great court vision. He's ultra crafty getting to the line and while is game is somewhat limited to long jumpers and drives to the lane he's damn good at both. He's also awesome on the break and is one of our highest IQ players.

To me the formula is simple... we need to keep Mosgov and Gallo. Gallo spreads the floor and Mosgov is the size and athleticism upfront we are so desperate for. Neither Mos or Gallo are ready for a title run yet, but both are maturing quickly, both work very hard and are dedicated to improving on BOTH sides of the ball.

I like both Chandler and Fields, but they are easier to find then a 6'10 wing who can guard 1s, 2s and 3s, spread the floor and get to the line or a 7'1 skilled athletic true center.

The lineup you want to go to war with is this:
PG Felton
SG Melo 6'8
SF Gallo 6'10
PF Amare 6'10
C Mosgov 7'1

Thats a starting line up with elite skill and athleticism. You want to be elite you create huge mismatches every night.

Gallo draws and ASKS to guard the opposing teams best scorer every night. Is he a lock down defender? Obviously not, but he is certainly effective playing that role. Melo, Amare and Gallo are a legit big 3 with Mos and Felton bringing huge things themselves. Your not going to find better depth than that.

Thank you Fish, that's exactly what I'm sayin. Gallo's versatility on both ends of the floor at 6'10 are near irreplaceable. Get him on a team with some cold blooded killers and it's gonna bring out his best. I like Fields a lot but he's not a third wheel.

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2/11/2011  2:34 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:So a report says Denver wants

Mosgov or AR
gallo
fields
chandler
and two #1 picks
Curry's expiring contract

there willing to pull back gallo or fields.. This looks like a similar hiest they tried with NJ

I don't know if I want to cry or laugh or both. I want some of what the Denver front office is smoking.

That is an absurd offer. I guess you can't blame them for trying but let's be serious, Denver

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2/11/2011  2:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2011  2:44 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Fields is a nice player and has the potential to be very good. You sell that to Denver as he is cheap, young and good. IMO, Gallo has more Bball IQ than Fields and IMO, a bigger upside. Gallo can be the 3rd wheel to Melo and Stat and still average 16 points a game on 8-10 shots. He will also up his assists.

Fields, Chandler, No 1, Curry and Az for $$ relief. This gives Denver potentially 3 good young players and cap room to sign a few good players. If they insisted on Felton for Billups, I would do it.

No to Mozgov unless they are giving us Nene back.

Gallo has more upside? really? i hope so because right now i see an inconsistent one dimensional role player that shoots 3s or drives to the basket. and if you were to highlight some of Gallo's strengths, and mind you he is good, i don't think BB IQ would be up there whereas it's a no-brainer for Fields.

listen Denver likes Gallo but he's interchangeable with Chandler in regards to this trade, but they really want Fields and there's a reason for that.

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2/11/2011  2:48 PM
SlimChin wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Fields is a nice player and has the potential to be very good. You sell that to Denver as he is cheap, young and good. IMO, Gallo has more Bball IQ than Fields and IMO, a bigger upside. Gallo can be the 3rd wheel to Melo and Stat and still average 16 points a game on 8-10 shots. He will also up his assists.

Fields, Chandler, No 1, Curry and Az for $$ relief. This gives Denver potentially 3 good young players and cap room to sign a few good players. If they insisted on Felton for Billups, I would do it.

No to Mozgov unless they are giving us Nene back.

Gallo has more upside? really? i hope so because right now i see an inconsistent one dimensional role player that shoots 3s or drives to the basket. and if you were to highlight some of Gallo's strengths, and mind you he is good, i don't think BB IQ would be up there whereas it's a no-brainer for Fields.

listen Denver likes Gallo but he's interchangeable with Chandler in regards to this trade, but they really want Fields and there's a reason for that.

that's about the oddest phrase ever

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2/11/2011  2:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2011  2:53 PM
SlimChin wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Fields is a nice player and has the potential to be very good. You sell that to Denver as he is cheap, young and good. IMO, Gallo has more Bball IQ than Fields and IMO, a bigger upside. Gallo can be the 3rd wheel to Melo and Stat and still average 16 points a game on 8-10 shots. He will also up his assists.

Fields, Chandler, No 1, Curry and Az for $$ relief. This gives Denver potentially 3 good young players and cap room to sign a few good players. If they insisted on Felton for Billups, I would do it.

No to Mozgov unless they are giving us Nene back.

Gallo has more upside? really? i hope so because right now i see an inconsistent one dimensional role player that shoots 3s or drives to the basket. and if you were to highlight some of Gallo's strengths, and mind you he is good, i don't think BB IQ would be up there whereas it's a no-brainer for Fields.

listen Denver likes Gallo but he's interchangeable with Chandler in regards to this trade, but they really want Fields and there's a reason for that.

are you serious?
First of all how is a player can "shoots 3s" AND "drives to the basket" be "one dimensional"?
You could say he only plays one side of the ball, but I don't think that's true either.
The only part of Gallos game that is not in the equation is rebounding. Where else is he deficient?

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2/11/2011  2:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2011  3:00 PM
Panos wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Fields is a nice player and has the potential to be very good. You sell that to Denver as he is cheap, young and good. IMO, Gallo has more Bball IQ than Fields and IMO, a bigger upside. Gallo can be the 3rd wheel to Melo and Stat and still average 16 points a game on 8-10 shots. He will also up his assists.

Fields, Chandler, No 1, Curry and Az for $$ relief. This gives Denver potentially 3 good young players and cap room to sign a few good players. If they insisted on Felton for Billups, I would do it.

No to Mozgov unless they are giving us Nene back.

Gallo has more upside? really? i hope so because right now i see an inconsistent one dimensional role player that shoots 3s or drives to the basket. and if you were to highlight some of Gallo's strengths, and mind you he is good, i don't think BB IQ would be up there whereas it's a no-brainer for Fields.

listen Denver likes Gallo but he's interchangeable with Chandler in regards to this trade, but they really want Fields and there's a reason for that.

are you serious?
First of all how is a player can "shoots 3s" AND "drives to the basket" be "one dimensional"?
You could say he only plays one side of the ball, but I don't think that's true either.
The only part of Gallos game that is not in the equation is rebounding. Where else is he deficient?

no mid range jumper. not that great on the break. and yes not much of a rebounder....

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2/11/2011  3:01 PM

The only thing is his not very good at is his midrange jump.

Slim, you gotta watch the games.

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2/11/2011  3:09 PM
Nalod wrote:
The only thing is his not very good at is his midrange jump.

Slim, you gotta watch the games.

how about post up? nah...

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2/11/2011  3:23 PM
SlimChin wrote:
Panos wrote:
SlimChin wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Fields is a nice player and has the potential to be very good. You sell that to Denver as he is cheap, young and good. IMO, Gallo has more Bball IQ than Fields and IMO, a bigger upside. Gallo can be the 3rd wheel to Melo and Stat and still average 16 points a game on 8-10 shots. He will also up his assists.

Fields, Chandler, No 1, Curry and Az for $$ relief. This gives Denver potentially 3 good young players and cap room to sign a few good players. If they insisted on Felton for Billups, I would do it.

No to Mozgov unless they are giving us Nene back.

Gallo has more upside? really? i hope so because right now i see an inconsistent one dimensional role player that shoots 3s or drives to the basket. and if you were to highlight some of Gallo's strengths, and mind you he is good, i don't think BB IQ would be up there whereas it's a no-brainer for Fields.

listen Denver likes Gallo but he's interchangeable with Chandler in regards to this trade, but they really want Fields and there's a reason for that.

are you serious?
First of all how is a player can "shoots 3s" AND "drives to the basket" be "one dimensional"?
You could say he only plays one side of the ball, but I don't think that's true either.
The only part of Gallos game that is not in the equation is rebounding. Where else is he deficient?

no mid range jumper. not that great on the break. and yes not much of a rebounder....

not that good on the break? your cred is shot amigo... need to watch some games and stop makin stuff up
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