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Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

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2/1/2011  5:12 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

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TMS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I came close to Islesfan, but not completely. I disagreed about Wilson Chandler at the time, but like that pick now. I like and liked Nate, Lee and Ariza. Marbury was good at first but that blew up and I pretty quickly realized things wouldn't go too far with him.

Overall, it's hard to support the guy in anyway. If he were brought back, I'd simply stop being a Knick fan.

of course now we know Isiah was a horrible GM when it's all said & done if he were ever reinstated as the President of our franchise i'd probably lose all interest in the Knicks too until he was gone or could prove he could win us a championship... i'm just referring to the fact that Isiah had plenty of supporters when he first took this job... we were all desperate to have anything besides Scott Layden leading this team.

Agreed, I was sipping the kool aid too at the beginning. It tasted like gasoline after about a year.

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2/1/2011  5:18 PM
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

To be fair, on MSG, there were certainly a small handful of posters who couldn't stand Isiah from the beginning. Not many, but there were more than Islesfan. I think for the most part, they saw how he handled the CBA and got completely turned off at how he fired Don Chaney... and couldn't stand Marbury from the beginning. Those three things probably just completely turned them off forever.... understandably.

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2/1/2011  5:25 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

To be fair, on MSG, there were certainly a small handful of posters who couldn't stand Isiah from the beginning. Not many, but there were more than Islesfan. I think for the most part, they saw how he handled the CBA and got completely turned off at how he fired Don Chaney... and couldn't stand Marbury from the beginning. Those three things probably just completely turned them off forever.... understandably.

i think there were plenty of posters that hated the idea of us hiring Isiah because of his sketchy history, but not many that i can remember that were on record as disagreeing w/every single decision he ever made as our GM other than islesfan... most guys were happy w/our selections of David Lee, Wilson C & Trevor Ariza... there was a mixed bag when it came to Channing Frye on draft night... also a mixed bag on who liked or hated the Marbury trade when it went down... also the Curry & Jamal trades had mixed reactions as did the Larry Brown hiring, which actually got mostly positive reactions from what i remember... hell, i even remember some people supporting the Jerome James signing if u can even believe it.

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2/1/2011  5:26 PM
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

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2/1/2011  5:29 PM
TMS wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

To be fair, on MSG, there were certainly a small handful of posters who couldn't stand Isiah from the beginning. Not many, but there were more than Islesfan. I think for the most part, they saw how he handled the CBA and got completely turned off at how he fired Don Chaney... and couldn't stand Marbury from the beginning. Those three things probably just completely turned them off forever.... understandably.

i think there were plenty of posters that hated the idea of us hiring Isiah because of his sketchy history, but not many that i can remember that were on record as disagreeing w/every single decision he ever made as our GM other than islesfan... most guys were happy w/our selections of David Lee, Wilson C & Trevor Ariza... there was a mixed bag when it came to Channing Frye on draft night... also a mixed bag on who liked or hated the Marbury trade when it went down... also the Curry & Jamal trades had mixed reactions as did the Larry Brown hiring, which actually got mostly positive reactions from what i remember... hell, i even remember some people supporting the Jerome James signing if u can even believe it.

I most certainly remember the support for the Jerome signing.... and then he traded for Curry (Which I had prayed to dear God he wouldn't do). This was right after we drafted Channing Frye. How awesome was that?

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Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

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2/1/2011  5:56 PM
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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2/1/2011  5:58 PM
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

I couldn't even tell you. I didn't follow the Knicks since Isiah took over all the way to his last season, when the light at the end of the tunnel was starting to become visible. Though I would be lying if I said I stopped watching because Isiah took over; it's just where my mind was at the time.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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2/1/2011  6:04 PM
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

that was Scott Layden

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2/1/2011  6:12 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

that was Scott Layden

i think he's talking about the Van Horn for Tim Fugazy trade... i hated that trade too when it went down.

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2/1/2011  6:14 PM
TMS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

that was Scott Layden

i think he's talking about the Van Horn for Tim Fugazy trade... i hated that trade too when it went down.

You're arguing with Childs2Dudley? You'll have better luck arguing with a brick wall.

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2/1/2011  6:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  6:34 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

that was Scott Layden

i think he's talking about the Van Horn for Tim Fugazy trade... i hated that trade too when it went down.

You're arguing with Childs2Dudley? You'll have better luck arguing with a brick wall.

He's not arguing with me but nice try.

Are your feelings still hurt because I insulted your amazing posts of calling Mozgov one of the worst players in Knicks franchise history?

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2/1/2011  6:37 PM
TMS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

that was Scott Layden

i think he's talking about the Van Horn for Tim Fugazy trade... i hated that trade too when it went down.

haha wow... KVH part of two terrible Knicks trades. I feel ill

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2/1/2011  6:43 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
TMS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

that was Scott Layden

i think he's talking about the Van Horn for Tim Fugazy trade... i hated that trade too when it went down.

haha wow... KVH part of two terrible Knicks trades. I feel ill

u know what before we made that KVH for Fugazy trade i actually had high hopes for Isiah's plan... & i thought Marbury would actually work out... boy did those hopes get dashed with the quickness.

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2/1/2011  6:49 PM
the curry trade was one of the worse nba trades in history..the bulls did not want to resign him and no other teams wanted to give up assets for a player they couldnt get insurance on due to a bad heart condition..read some chicago blogs and they would've been happy to get a 2nd rd draft pick for him..but nooo, isaih gave up 1st rd picks that were NOT lottery protected..every gm gets protection but isaih was so arrogant he didnt even ask
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2/1/2011  6:52 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
TMS wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:Anubis is also a former Isiah Thomas supporter so it tells you where his basketball mind is.

so were a lot of other posters around here, most people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt & a lot of people supported some of his draft selections, including me & i'm also guessing you supported some of his decisions too... the only poster i recall disagreeing with every single decision Isiah ever made was islesfan.

I hated Isiah from 2005 and on.

My hate only grew stronger as the years and losses piled on. What frustrated me was how many people really went to bat for Isiah until the bitter end - and some still do.

I have never seen a worse mismanagement of a franchise than what I saw with Isiah Thomas. He took a team that had not been to the playoffs in a few years and proceeded to make it into a bigger laughingstock than anyone could have imagined. There was not one player in the Isiah Thomas era that you could build around and he left us with absolutely no worthwhile assets besides Chandler and Lee. 5 years as a GM produced no winning seasons and a slew of overpaid, lazy basketball players. Going through that era has made me a stronger fan. I know that I now can withstand anything thrown at me.

so u knew from the get go that every decision Isiah ever made would turn out to be a disaster at the time those decisions were made & never once supported any trade or draft selection he ever made as our GM? or are u just reciting to me his past history in hindsight like everyone else?

Why is that so hard to fathom?

I only liked the Marbury move and that was because I was starving for a superstar. Little did I know that Marbury was a selfish lunatic. I was younger then. Flashy moves excited me. Crawford and Jerome Williams excited me. But then I saw them on the court and that excitement evaporated and turned into resentment. From then on I realized that Isiah Thomas did not know what he was doing and was not correctly constructing an NBA team. Rather, he was collecting "talent" on one roster and hoping it would mesh. That failed miserably.

it's not hard to fathom that u came to realize Isiah was a horrible GM after the fact... just don't remember hearing consistent opposition against every move he made from too many posters is all... a lot of us were back & forth with support & opposition w/most of his moves... looking back now it's obvious he was a horrible GM, but dunno how many of us knew he would be from the get go is all i'm saying... if u were among those people then i apologize to u... i never posted on RealGM so i wouldn't know who said what over there.

I'm happy to say I was against most of his moves since the awful Van Horn trade. I will reluctantly admit, that I liked the Eddy Curry trade, though. *sigh*

that was Scott Layden

i think he's talking about the Van Horn for Tim Fugazy trade... i hated that trade too when it went down.

You're arguing with Childs2Dudley? You'll have better luck arguing with a brick wall.

He's not arguing with me but nice try.

Are your feelings still hurt because I insulted your amazing posts of calling Mozgov one of the worst players in Knicks franchise history?

I didn't even check your replies to be honest. Your dick is hard because Mosgov had one good game?

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