rvwink wrote:

TMS wrote:
u can draw many parallels to the Melo comparisons with Gallo or Wilson to how much better Amare was in comparison to David Lee... statswise, no u can't say the guy was "3 times better" from a pure numbers basis... the difference lies in the impact those players have on the game being played, how much easier they make the game for their teammates by shouldering the offensive load on a nightly basis, how much more attention they command from opposing defenses to try & stop them, which inevitably opens up opportunities for other guys to do things on the floor... was David Lee a better investment from a "value per dollar" standpoint than Amare was? i think that point's already been shot to hell at this point when you see the results having a presence like him does for your franchise.

I agree 100% that Amare's value relative to David Lee's value makes Amare a bargain at $100 Million (if in fact $100 Million dollar bargains actually exist.) Amare has brought a swagger to the team that David Lee never came close to delivering. Once the Knicks were confident that if they could stay close late in the game, they would win more than their share, it happened over and over. Also Amare absorbed double teams himself allowing his teammates to shoot more open shots.

What I don't agree with is that if Amare, a super star, brought a large extra dividend to the Knicks, that bringing in a second super star will automatically double that dividend. Amare's impact was so great because he played within MDA offensive system before. Gallo, Wilson, and Landry are all more efficient scorers than Melo is and they also now know the system. If Melo insists on taking his normal number of shots, from his normal places, he will score less points per attempt than the people he is taking shots away from. Also he will spread the floor less efficiently as well.

In the words sung by Cab Calloway in Porgy and Bess, "it ain't necessarily so."

i agree i don't expect the exact same kind of impact right off the bat that Amare brought because Melo will take some time to get used to the system... but i do think by adding a second superstar to the roster, it takes a ton of pressure off everyone else on the team, including Amare, to produce on a nightly basis... it gives MDA another powerful weapon to utilize in his offensive schemes... being the offensive genius that he is recognized as being i see no reason why he wouldn't be able to utilize Amare & Melo to the best of their abilities playing together in SSOL... tell me who do u really think other teams are going to be afraid of letting them be beat by in games, Melo or Gallo/Wilson? who do u think other teams will have to actively gameplan for? & tell me who u think makes it that much harder for other teams to gameplan for Amare too.

Wilson has no charisma on or off the court in comparison.

As a ball player y'all can argue what ever you want. They are different. One is better at something as is the other.

If I have to pick one black player and one white then I might pick Gallo for one slot, and Turiaf for the other. He is more extroverted and has a higher profile.

I for one absolutly love watching Wilson play and would be very happy if no choice had to be made and we keep him!

NBA will market its black, white, and chinese players. Dirk gets little exposure compared to Nash.

Wilson might be the nicest guy, good sense of humor and very intelligent. I don't know. He is the quiet man. I love his cool on the court.

What do I know? He smokes weed in dark ally's with chicks. But not with my daughter!

If you tell me Gallo beats women and Wilson volunteers to walk women home on campus so they are safe or helps champion womens shelters from abuse you will tell me something I don't know and it will change my perception for sure. I just don't know much about Wilson.

Its not about a negative image, just a very neutral one. Thats his thing, thats cool.

misterearl wrote:Charisma:

1: a personal magic of leadership arousing special popular loyalty or enthusiasm for a public figure

2: a special magnetic charm or appeal

I agree. Gallo has more of it than Wilson.

As has the vote:http: http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=37887

Wilson is a great young player - don't want to take anything away from him at all. But to say he is clearly superior to Gallinari is just silly. They both do certain things extremely well, they both have holes in their games.

Secondly this was supposed to be about holding back TMoz but none of us has been at practices and while he had one great games there will be ones where he looks like he did at the start of the season. It does show the upside-let's enjoys the bumpy ride.