TMS wrote:i think Gallo needs to cut down on his head jerking to try & get calls from the refs on every drive to the basket... i appreciate his focus on trying to drive more but he's been taking a lot of uncontrolled shots in the paint in what almost looks like he's just looking to get bailed out to get to the FT line on every drive... once in a while he should pull up & take the short J on those drives, sorta like Kevin Durant was doing last night, he's got the height & length to get off his shots over anyone who's guarding him... we already know he's got a nice stepback fadeaway shot, if he can incorporate that on his dribble drives in the paint & midrange game, i think it makes him much tougher to guard.

I agree. He is young and has a lot of weapons in his arsenal. The problem I see with him right now is he falls in love with 1 move. That is just being young and it will come in age. In the beginning of the streak Gallo was making everybody foul him on 3 pt attempts. I mean a little head fake and the defense comes flying in to block him and he just waits and make contact for the foul. He did this for a long time then it just stopped. He fell in love with doing a step to the side and shoot. One thing I want him to do is mix up his game a little. Like Marv said, he can probably drive to the basket 2 times in a quarter. Do that then maybe post up once or twice a quarter. Then hit open 3s once or twice in a quarter. He can average 22+ easy in a game....but....our PGs still has to make sure he gets his touches.

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:i think Gallo needs to cut down on his head jerking to try & get calls from the refs on every drive to the basket... i appreciate his focus on trying to drive more but he's been taking a lot of uncontrolled shots in the paint in what almost looks like he's just looking to get bailed out to get to the FT line on every drive... once in a while he should pull up & take the short J on those drives, sorta like Kevin Durant was doing last night, he's got the height & length to get off his shots over anyone who's guarding him... we already know he's got a nice stepback fadeaway shot, if he can incorporate that on his dribble drives in the paint & midrange game, i think it makes him much tougher to guard.

I feel what your trying to say TMS but even Amare forces stuff in Middle some of the times

Gallo has made it a point to take his minimal amount of shots attempts to the hoop..... He has been
shooting at lot less 3's which everyone in media was suggesting he was take too many!!

Gallo got 23 on 13 shots.... IMO he should have had 5 to 7 more even if he hit just 2 or 3 we could of won
last game!!

Not saying Gallo can't use his step back jumper more but I think its just a matter of touches!!

Eh, the thing is, even when Amar'e is looking to draw fouls and the contact, he still tries to follow through and get the and-1. Gallo at times seeks the contact and then just flips up an ugly shot, hoping for the whistle. Granted, he gets the call probably 70% of the time.

Gallo's a good player, but I'm not the biggest fan. I just don't like his style of play, and I think if he were drafted for another team like the Bulls or Raptors, I'd be absolutely hating on his herky-jerky moves to the basket, and all the flopping on defense. But even though I don't like his style, I can appreciate what he gives us, and acknowledge that if he expands his repertoire to include pull-up J's, jab-steps, etc. then he has the potential to be a great player.

Also...what on Earth happened to his 3-pt shot? It looked so pure his first two seasons. Such a good arc and rotation that even when he didn't swish it, he'd get the fortuitous bounces. Now he's clanking open 3's badly. I honestly feel more comfortable with Walker or Williams when they shoot a wide open 3.

Paladin55 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

iSergio wrote:The way some of you describe Danilo Gallinari, you would think you were talking about Larry Bird. LOL

Nothing here validates this statement.

One way to "develop" players is to give them more responsibilities and see how they handle them.

Gallo was the "no D Euro," and now it seems that he has made himself into pretty effective defensive player in the NBA, and outside of Douglas, you can make a case that he is perhaps the best 1/1 defender on the Knicks.

Gallo was a jump shooter who could not drive, and now you can make the case that he is a more efficient scorer driving to the basket than he is from distance.

The guy was a "go to" player in Italy- no reason why MDA can't give him some responsibility at various times during games, and if he is successful, allow him the opportunity to have a decision making role during crunch time.

go to player in Italy? i know the Europeans are becoming a formidable presence in basketball but we're still talking the NBA here, not soccer.

Kind of a foolish comment, given Dirk, Ginobbili (sp), Hedu, etc..

Does not mean he is the alpha male, but he can have his big moments on the Knicks.

Has to do with responsibility, bro.

He has also shown some ability in the NBA, and in case I am mistaken, he has had some big moments for the team.

Again- we are talking about developing players.

Hedo (not Hedu) and Ginobbili aren't European. and played most of their careers in the Turkish and Argentinian leagues before coming to the NBA. but my point was A "go-to" guy in Italy doesn't carry a lot of weight in the NBA.

scoshin wrote:

umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:i think Gallo needs to cut down on his head jerking to try & get calls from the refs on every drive to the basket... i appreciate his focus on trying to drive more but he's been taking a lot of uncontrolled shots in the paint in what almost looks like he's just looking to get bailed out to get to the FT line on every drive... once in a while he should pull up & take the short J on those drives, sorta like Kevin Durant was doing last night, he's got the height & length to get off his shots over anyone who's guarding him... we already know he's got a nice stepback fadeaway shot, if he can incorporate that on his dribble drives in the paint & midrange game, i think it makes him much tougher to guard.

I feel what your trying to say TMS but even Amare forces stuff in Middle some of the times

Gallo has made it a point to take his minimal amount of shots attempts to the hoop..... He has been
shooting at lot less 3's which everyone in media was suggesting he was take too many!!

Gallo got 23 on 13 shots.... IMO he should have had 5 to 7 more even if he hit just 2 or 3 we could of won
last game!!

Not saying Gallo can't use his step back jumper more but I think its just a matter of touches!!

Eh, the thing is, even when Amar'e is looking to draw fouls and the contact, he still tries to follow through and get the and-1. Gallo at times seeks the contact and then just flips up an ugly shot, hoping for the whistle. Granted, he gets the call probably 70% of the time.

Gallo's a good player, but I'm not the biggest fan. I just don't like his style of play, and I think if he were drafted for another team like the Bulls or Raptors, I'd be absolutely hating on his herky-jerky moves to the basket, and all the flopping on defense. But even though I don't like his style, I can appreciate what he gives us, and acknowledge that if he expands his repertoire to include pull-up J's, jab-steps, etc. then he has the potential to be a great player.

Also...what on Earth happened to his 3-pt shot? It looked so pure his first two seasons. Such a good arc and rotation that even when he didn't swish it, he'd get the fortuitous bounces. Now he's clanking open 3's badly. I honestly feel more comfortable with Walker or Williams when they shoot a wide open 3.

"Gallo at times seeks the contact and then just flips up an ugly shot, hoping for the whistle. Granted, he gets the call probably 70% of the time."

boom you nailed it. although i think he gets the call only 55% of the time; he's not going to get any real respect from the refs yet.

i want Gallo to go up like he's going to finish—not expect the whistle to bail him out.

martin wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

iSergio wrote:The way some of you describe Danilo Gallinari, you would think you were talking about Larry Bird. LOL

Nothing here validates this statement.

One way to "develop" players is to give them more responsibilities and see how they handle them.

Gallo was the "no D Euro," and now it seems that he has made himself into pretty effective defensive player in the NBA, and outside of Douglas, you can make a case that he is perhaps the best 1/1 defender on the Knicks.

Gallo was a jump shooter who could not drive, and now you can make the case that he is a more efficient scorer driving to the basket than he is from distance.

The guy was a "go to" player in Italy- no reason why MDA can't give him some responsibility at various times during games, and if he is successful, allow him the opportunity to have a decision making role during crunch time.

go to player in Italy? i know the Europeans are becoming a formidable presence in basketball but we're still talking the NBA here, not soccer.

Kind of a foolish comment, given Dirk, Ginobbili (sp), Hedu, etc..

Does not mean he is the alpha male, but he can have his big moments on the Knicks.

Has to do with responsibility, bro.

He has also shown some ability in the NBA, and in case I am mistaken, he has had some big moments for the team.

Again- we are talking about developing players.

Hedo (not Hedu) and Ginobbili aren't European. and played most of their careers in the Turkish and Argentinian leagues before coming to the NBA. but my point was A "go-to" guy in Italy doesn't carry a lot of weight in the NBA.

"go-to" at age 17 or 18 is pointless cause just about every NBA player was "go-to". So your point is pointless.

No... Palladin's point is pointless.

SlimChin wrote:

martin wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

iSergio wrote:The way some of you describe Danilo Gallinari, you would think you were talking about Larry Bird. LOL

Nothing here validates this statement.

One way to "develop" players is to give them more responsibilities and see how they handle them.

Gallo was the "no D Euro," and now it seems that he has made himself into pretty effective defensive player in the NBA, and outside of Douglas, you can make a case that he is perhaps the best 1/1 defender on the Knicks.

Gallo was a jump shooter who could not drive, and now you can make the case that he is a more efficient scorer driving to the basket than he is from distance.

The guy was a "go to" player in Italy- no reason why MDA can't give him some responsibility at various times during games, and if he is successful, allow him the opportunity to have a decision making role during crunch time.

go to player in Italy? i know the Europeans are becoming a formidable presence in basketball but we're still talking the NBA here, not soccer.

Kind of a foolish comment, given Dirk, Ginobbili (sp), Hedu, etc..

Does not mean he is the alpha male, but he can have his big moments on the Knicks.

Has to do with responsibility, bro.

He has also shown some ability in the NBA, and in case I am mistaken, he has had some big moments for the team.

Again- we are talking about developing players.

Hedo (not Hedu) and Ginobbili aren't European. and played most of their careers in the Turkish and Argentinian leagues before coming to the NBA. but my point was A "go-to" guy in Italy doesn't carry a lot of weight in the NBA.

"go-to" at age 17 or 18 is pointless cause just about every NBA player was "go-to". So your point is pointless.

No... Palladin's point is pointless.

Hedo is not European, Ginobili is European, he's ethnically Italian.

Bippity10 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Gallinari has displayed a weak motor. When he makes shots he is bouncing around like a rabbit when his shot isn't falling he disappears.

The injury gave him a week plus of rest. He came back rejuvenated.

Gallo
-This season he has been under 10 points 7 times in 37 games played
-He's been under 10 points 5 times in his last 34 games
-In the last 30 games he's shooting 44% from the field, 38% from 3 and going to the line 6 times a game
-Over his last 30 games he's averaging 16.4 points per game

He is the fourth option on this team so their will be moments where he disappears during games, just like their are moments Wilson disappears as the third option. There is only one ball so that is what happens sometimes. I think this guy was very inconsistent last year. This year? I'm not sure where you guys are getting your information. It's like the people that still say he's nothing but a jumpshooter and plays no defense. Some of you guys are late to the party again. He's been playing well and developing for about 3 months now.

You keep talking sense and I will start a petition for everyone to be reset to their original post counts.

Bippity10 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Gallinari has displayed a weak motor. When he makes shots he is bouncing around like a rabbit when his shot isn't falling he disappears.

The injury gave him a week plus of rest. He came back rejuvenated.

Gallo
-This season he has been under 10 points 7 times in 37 games played
-He's been under 10 points 5 times in his last 34 games
-In the last 30 games he's shooting 44% from the field, 38% from 3 and going to the line 6 times a game
-Over his last 30 games he's averaging 16.4 points per game

He is the fourth option on this team so their will be moments where he disappears during games, just like their are moments Wilson disappears as the third option. There is only one ball so that is what happens sometimes. I think this guy was very inconsistent last year. This year? I'm not sure where you guys are getting your information. It's like the people that still say he's nothing but a jumpshooter and plays no defense. Some of you guys are late to the party again. He's been playing well and developing for about 3 months now.

SlimChin wrote:

martin wrote:

"go-to" at age 17 or 18 is pointless cause just about every NBA player was "go-to". So your point is pointless.

No... Palladin's point is pointless.

Gallo was a kid playing with adults in Europe, and would have been given the responsibility to do his thing in big moments by his coaches. He was not a guy playing solely with other players his own age.

If a guy is willing to take on the burden in certain moments, this is important, IMO. I feel that Douglas, by the way, is actually the same kind of player, and I don't think he would shy away from the responsibility of being a go to guy in big moments if it was handed to him.

Everyone talks **** about "developing" players- well you develop players by giving them opportunities and seeing how they respond. You put them into situations where their skills/abilities are maximized, allow them to have a degree of control at big moments, or set plays for them, and you go from there, giving them more or less opportunity based on their success or failure.

It is not like Gallinari hasn't had some big moments in his career, which spans all of 146 games. Its not like he hasn't been the deciding influence in some of those games.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Gallo is getting too many threads for someone who is going to be a career role player.

this.

i'm starting to think this is a pro-Gallo forum.