SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

As I asked earlier, if you are playing against the knicks, who do you think they would be more inclined to guard against in respect to outside shot?

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

if Chandler is more adapt at the role and has the personality to come off the bench, how is that coddling Gallo?

Gallo is more passive and more of a facilitator than Chandler, who will more likely shoot the ball if he gets it, and that's what you want for 6th man. Why is this bad?

"this isn't your son's middle school rec league team"

People view this like becoming the 6th man is a punishment. That only the good kids start and the losers go to the bench

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

martin wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

if Chandler is more adapt at the role and has the personality to come off the bench, how is that coddling Gallo?

Gallo is more passive and more of a facilitator than Chandler, who will more likely shoot the ball if he gets it, and that's what you want for 6th man. Why is this bad?

it's in reference to the original quote: "He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected."

sounds like coddling to me.

So as coach what move would you make? One guy may lose his confidence and the other would embrace it. As coach who would you move to the bench? The guy who may lose confidence or the guy that has already proven that he can thrive in that role?

Gallo!

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

martin wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

if Chandler is more adapt at the role and has the personality to come off the bench, how is that coddling Gallo?

Gallo is more passive and more of a facilitator than Chandler, who will more likely shoot the ball if he gets it, and that's what you want for 6th man. Why is this bad?

it's in reference to the original quote: "He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected."

sounds like coddling to me.

So as coach what move would you make? One guy may lose his confidence and the other would embrace it. As coach who would you move to the bench? The guy who may lose confidence or the guy that has already proven that he can thrive in that role?

Gallo!

So you move the guy who may not do well in that role, thus hurting your bench and your team? Why? Because you really, really, really want to have Chandler's name announced at the beginning of games?

Andrew wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

martin wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

if Chandler is more adapt at the role and has the personality to come off the bench, how is that coddling Gallo?

Gallo is more passive and more of a facilitator than Chandler, who will more likely shoot the ball if he gets it, and that's what you want for 6th man. Why is this bad?

it's in reference to the original quote: "He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected."

sounds like coddling to me.

So as coach what move would you make? One guy may lose his confidence and the other would embrace it. As coach who would you move to the bench? The guy who may lose confidence or the guy that has already proven that he can thrive in that role?

Gallo!

So you move the guy who may not do well in that role, thus hurting your bench and your team? Why? Because you really, really, really want to have Chandler's name announced at the beginning of games?

Maybe he likes the way Chandler rips off his warm ups?

Well, I ahve to admit that I like that myself

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

martin wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

if Chandler is more adapt at the role and has the personality to come off the bench, how is that coddling Gallo?

Gallo is more passive and more of a facilitator than Chandler, who will more likely shoot the ball if he gets it, and that's what you want for 6th man. Why is this bad?

it's in reference to the original quote: "He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected."

sounds like coddling to me.

So as coach what move would you make? One guy may lose his confidence and the other would embrace it. As coach who would you move to the bench? The guy who may lose confidence or the guy that has already proven that he can thrive in that role?

Gallo!

So you move the guy who may not do well in that role, thus hurting your bench and your team? Why? Because you really, really, really want to have Chandler's name announced at the beginning of games?

no i keep the player i have confidence in—and that may give you better results in the starting lineup rather than having to deal with a fragile ego. and if Gallo is a mess coming off the bench then it's a bigger issue of him as a player. and how is having Gallo as 6th man going to hurt the bench? explain?

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

martin wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

if Chandler is more adapt at the role and has the personality to come off the bench, how is that coddling Gallo?

Gallo is more passive and more of a facilitator than Chandler, who will more likely shoot the ball if he gets it, and that's what you want for 6th man. Why is this bad?

it's in reference to the original quote: "He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected."

sounds like coddling to me.

So as coach what move would you make? One guy may lose his confidence and the other would embrace it. As coach who would you move to the bench? The guy who may lose confidence or the guy that has already proven that he can thrive in that role?

Gallo!

So you move the guy who may not do well in that role, thus hurting your bench and your team? Why? Because you really, really, really want to have Chandler's name announced at the beginning of games?

no i keep the player i have confidence in—and that may give you better results in the starting lineup rather than having to deal with a fragile ego. and if Gallo is a mess coming off the bench then it's a bigger issue of him as a player. and how is having Gallo as 6th man going to hurt the bench? explain?

1.) Judging by the 35 minutes a game that both Gallo and Wilson are getting I'm pretty sure that D'Antoni has confidence in both of them.

2.) So when Popovich moved Ginobli to the 2nd unit does that mean he had more confidence in Finley and Bowen? He could easily have moved one of those guys to the bench because Ginobli was a far superior player to both. So why did he move Ginobli? Because he wanted energy and offensive leadership. This was something Ginobli can provide and Bowen/Finley could not. There was nothing sinister about it. The guys accepted their roles happily and they won the title.

3.) D'Antoni could easily decide in a weeks time that this doesn't work and then move Gallo to the bench. I would be okay with atht move as well. Whatever works, works. I would not consider it a demotion for Gallo either, and would not flip out like some of you guys are now.

4.) If you look at D'Antoni's history his sixth man has typically been a spark plug(Leandro Barbosa, Al Harrington, Nate Robinson, Joe Johnson. Guys that can come off the bench making baskets. Guys that don't need minutes to warm up. This is MDA's MO. Chandler is this type of player. Gallo is the exact opposite of these guys. Gallo needs time to get going. It's a flaw in his game, yes. But a coach can't be worried about trying to force that out of him midseason. A coach has to figure out who best fits the role and will help the team win. Right now, the best 6th man on this team is Wilson.

5.) We are trying to put the best line-up on the floor at all times. I personally feel a hell of a lot better with Wilson leading the 2nd unit then Gallo. I would make the same decision but would have no problem if D'Antoni went the other way. I wonder why so many are so bent out of shape over this one.

i don't think you can compare Popovich's move with this one because it's so obviously different. can't really compare Ginobli to Chandler; 2 different animals.

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

martin wrote:

SlimChin wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

"The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles."

So why not have Gallo come off the bench then?!?! Nooooo cuz D'Antoni has to coddle Gallo and play these stupid games. Gallo has to be accountable for his inconsistency at some point because the numbers won't lie.

if Chandler is more adapt at the role and has the personality to come off the bench, how is that coddling Gallo?

Gallo is more passive and more of a facilitator than Chandler, who will more likely shoot the ball if he gets it, and that's what you want for 6th man. Why is this bad?

it's in reference to the original quote: "He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected."

sounds like coddling to me.

So as coach what move would you make? One guy may lose his confidence and the other would embrace it. As coach who would you move to the bench? The guy who may lose confidence or the guy that has already proven that he can thrive in that role?

Gallo!

So you move the guy who may not do well in that role, thus hurting your bench and your team? Why? Because you really, really, really want to have Chandler's name announced at the beginning of games?

no i keep the player i have confidence in—and that may give you better results in the starting lineup rather than having to deal with a fragile ego. and if Gallo is a mess coming off the bench then it's a bigger issue of him as a player. and how is having Gallo as 6th man going to hurt the bench? explain?

1.) Judging by the 35 minutes a game that both Gallo and Wilson are getting I'm pretty sure that D'Antoni has confidence in both of them.

2.) So when Popovich moved Ginobli to the 2nd unit does that mean he had more confidence in Finley and Bowen? He could easily have moved one of those guys to the bench because Ginobli was a far superior player to both. So why did he move Ginobli? Because he wanted energy and offensive leadership. This was something Ginobli can provide and Bowen/Finley could not. There was nothing sinister about it. The guys accepted their roles happily and they won the title.

3.) D'Antoni could easily decide in a weeks time that this doesn't work and then move Gallo to the bench. I would be okay with atht move as well. Whatever works, works. I would not consider it a demotion for Gallo either, and would not flip out like some of you guys are now.

4.) If you look at D'Antoni's history his sixth man has typically been a spark plug(Leandro Barbosa, Al Harrington, Nate Robinson, Joe Johnson. Guys that can come off the bench making baskets. Guys that don't need minutes to warm up. This is MDA's MO. Chandler is this type of player. Gallo is the exact opposite of these guys. Gallo needs time to get going. It's a flaw in his game, yes. But a coach can't be worried about trying to force that out of him midseason. A coach has to figure out who best fits the role and will help the team win. Right now, the best 6th man on this team is Wilson.

5.) We are trying to put the best line-up on the floor at all times. I personally feel a hell of a lot better with Wilson leading the 2nd unit then Gallo. I would make the same decision but would have no problem if D'Antoni went the other way. I wonder why so many are so bent out of shape over this one.

i don't think you can compare Popovich's move with this one because it's so obviously different. can't really compare Ginobli to Chandler; 2 different animals.

Why? D'Antoni said he wants better defense to start games so that is why he's moving Turiaf to the starting line-up(not because Turiaf is better then all the starters). This is taking a high energy guy off the bench and we are replacing him with someone that gives us "firepower". Seems pretty similar.

Bippity10 wrote:

tkf wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:People can't get out of the high school mindset that everytime a guy goes to the bench it is a demotion. D'Antoni said nothing of Gallo playing better or being a better player then Wilson. He said he was bringing Wilson off the bench because "he brings more firepower" and that it may shake Gallo's confidence whereas Wilson will not be affected.

The sixth man role IS AS IMPORTANT as any of the starting roles. This is why the championship San Antonio Spurs had no problem moving Ginobli to sixth man role in 06-07 and 07-08. Now did they make this move because they wanted to balance their team and have a great player provide energy and lead the second unit? Or did they make this move because Popovich was a stupid, stupid coach that had a silly love affair with Bruce Bowen and Michael Finley?

is that quoting Dantoni or something you made up?

D'Antoni could have pulled Danilo Gallinari from the lineup for Turiaf but the coach apparently was afraid to shake the Italian Stallion's confidence.

"A lot of reasons, a lot of discussions,'' D'Antoni said. "I don't want to play it out in the papers.

"Wilson has come off the bench. It hasn't affected him. You don't know if it will affect the other guys. Also Wilson comes in with a lot of firepower. And the biggest reason is it worked before and looked like everyone was OK with it.''

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/antoni_benches_chandler_for_turiaf_z1kpcgc5EYmjKhHfGkvjNM

Do I ever just make stuff up TKF? I don't need to make stuff up to prove my points. My points prove themselves. You've been posting with me long enough to know this. Exact Quote should have been "comes in with a lot of firepower"

no need to get touchy.. If it is not a direct quote then we are just speculating(which sometimes is no better than making things up.. sometimes..), and it seemed as if you grouped your thoughts in with dantoni somewhat.. no biggie... Speculation is speculation.... cool...

nyshakespeare wrote:Chandler has thrived in that role,
and he'll still get his regular minutes.
What's exactly the problem?

Well if the sun comes up in the east its obvious proof that hates Randolph and is sitting him on the bench because of personal vendetta. Conspiracy theories are the stuff of legend.