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Nalod
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1/10/2011  8:43 AM
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1/10/2011  9:26 AM
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If Deandre Jordan keeps playing like this--Id be willing to offer a substantial amount. I know Id have to over pay a tad but to get a C who I believe can give us 14-13 3.5 in his prime 65% and his age factored into it--this is where Id spend my money. But I need to see him do it all year consistently--how he is playing now.

for this year Id focus on trying to get Mayo to upgrade over Douglas(more size and much more explosive player and Jason Thompson. I think Mayo and Thompson would do very well here--and maybe they would just be the pieces we need--nothing else

Something like AR Douglas and 1.5mm in cash for Mayo

2014 pick restricted to only 7 and 1 2012 2nd rounder from GS for Thompson

Do you honestly think MDA would play Jordan? I don't see that happening.

If Mayo & Thompson could be had- those would be great moves.

Why wouldn't MDA play Jordan?

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1/10/2011  9:27 AM
Vmart wrote:Enjoy the playoffs guys, there will be no championships. Unless Melo is a Knick just don't see any other player putting the Knicks in the elite category of teams.

If we give up our cap flexibility, and assets for Melo, we still wont be championship contenders.

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1/10/2011  9:44 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Vmart wrote:Enjoy the playoffs guys, there will be no championships. Unless Melo is a Knick just don't see any other player putting the Knicks in the elite category of teams.

If we give up our cap flexibility, and assets for Melo, we still wont be championship contenders.

Have you not seen what Miami is doing? Once you have your Star players its very easy to add players. I think you guys are to worried about role players you can pick them up here and there. You get vets that sign for minimums, good young players are every where looking for an opportunity. Don't lose Melo, he is your last link to any kind of championship talk.

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1/10/2011  9:45 AM
Vmart wrote:Enjoy the playoffs guys, there will be no championships. Unless Melo is a Knick just don't see any other player putting the Knicks in the elite category of teams.

Agreed.

Unless another legit Star becomes available. We're not winning a title with Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler, Nene and Landry Fields as Amar'e Stoudemire's supporting cast.

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1/10/2011  10:58 AM
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If Deandre Jordan keeps playing like this--Id be willing to offer a substantial amount. I know Id have to over pay a tad but to get a C who I believe can give us 14-13 3.5 in his prime 65% and his age factored into it--this is where Id spend my money. But I need to see him do it all year consistently--how he is playing now.

for this year Id focus on trying to get Mayo to upgrade over Douglas(more size and much more explosive player and Jason Thompson. I think Mayo and Thompson would do very well here--and maybe they would just be the pieces we need--nothing else

Something like AR Douglas and 1.5mm in cash for Mayo

2014 pick restricted to only 7 and 1 2012 2nd rounder from GS for Thompson

Do you honestly think MDA would play Jordan? I don't see that happening.

If Mayo & Thompson could be had- those would be great moves.

If MDA was willing to play Timo why wouldn't he play a guy like Jordan who is already doing what we wanted Timo to do (block shots, rebound, finish)?

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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1/10/2011  10:59 AM
iSergio wrote:
Vmart wrote:Enjoy the playoffs guys, there will be no championships. Unless Melo is a Knick just don't see any other player putting the Knicks in the elite category of teams.

Agreed.

Unless another legit Star becomes available. We're not winning a title with Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler, Nene and Landry Fields as Amar'e Stoudemire's supporting cast.

So if we don't get Melo..what are you guys going to do? Just curious.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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1/10/2011  11:10 AM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:If Deandre Jordan keeps playing like this--Id be willing to offer a substantial amount. I know Id have to over pay a tad but to get a C who I believe can give us 14-13 3.5 in his prime 65% and his age factored into it--this is where Id spend my money. But I need to see him do it all year consistently--how he is playing now.

for this year Id focus on trying to get Mayo to upgrade over Douglas(more size and much more explosive player and Jason Thompson. I think Mayo and Thompson would do very well here--and maybe they would just be the pieces we need--nothing else

Something like AR Douglas and 1.5mm in cash for Mayo

2014 pick restricted to only 7 and 1 2012 2nd rounder from GS for Thompson

Do you honestly think MDA would play Jordan? I don't see that happening.

If Mayo & Thompson could be had- those would be great moves.

If MDA was willing to play Timo why wouldn't he play a guy like Jordan who is already doing what we wanted Timo to do (block shots, rebound, finish)?

Deandre Jordan is breaking out now to an NBA impact player--if melo is traded--and Joirdan continues with extended minutes(and why wouldnt he?) he may end up the number 1 NBA FA on the market.

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1/10/2011  11:16 AM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
iSergio wrote:
Vmart wrote:Enjoy the playoffs guys, there will be no championships. Unless Melo is a Knick just don't see any other player putting the Knicks in the elite category of teams.

Agreed.

Unless another legit Star becomes available. We're not winning a title with Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler, Nene and Landry Fields as Amar'e Stoudemire's supporting cast.

So if we don't get Melo..what are you guys going to do? Just curious.

Hope for the best. What else? Maybe down the line another Star becomes available.

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1/10/2011  11:54 AM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
iSergio wrote:
Vmart wrote:Enjoy the playoffs guys, there will be no championships. Unless Melo is a Knick just don't see any other player putting the Knicks in the elite category of teams.

Agreed.

Unless another legit Star becomes available. We're not winning a title with Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler, Nene and Landry Fields as Amar'e Stoudemire's supporting cast.

So if we don't get Melo..what are you guys going to do? Just curious.

Just enjoy the first round of the playoffs for the next 5 years.

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1/10/2011  12:31 PM
for reference: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-11-12
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1/10/2011  12:34 PM
martin wrote:for reference: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-11-12

well crap, I am noticing that ESPN has Nick Collison as an UFA in 2011, which he is NOT. Not sure how reliable this list is, pretty close with maybe a few minor errors.

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NYKBocker
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1/10/2011  12:40 PM
One of BRIGGS favorite players last year is a UFA in the summer. Kyrylo Fesenko of Utah. He might be worth a look.
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1/10/2011  1:15 PM
My plan B would be to go after:

A) someone who can create their own shot from the guard position/wing

B) rebounding and interior defense SIZE.

I would address those needs by targeting:


A) OJ Mayo... I can't really think of anyone else on the market who helps us in this category.


B) This need can be addressed by several different guys. Here are the options I would pursue most strongly, in order:
1) Deandre Jordan
2) Nene
3) Javale McGee

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1/10/2011  1:18 PM
NYKBocker wrote:One of BRIGGS favorite players last year is a UFA in the summer. Kyrylo Fesenko of Utah. He might be worth a look.

WTF--I said he would be good for 1mmas a back up dude.

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1/10/2011  1:25 PM
at this point...i would put the full court press on Minny for Love and one of their guards. They are lacking in experience, so would be likely to take Mason in any deal. Also, they are so far under the cap that numbers don't have to match and we could possibly also send Turiaf who they may again want as a reasonable contract for a veteran with a good attitude and leadership qualities and would be a good fit to b/u darko.

Randolf, Douglas, Turiaf and Mason and picks for Love, a guard and a filler piece

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1/10/2011  1:26 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:One of BRIGGS favorite players last year is a UFA in the summer. Kyrylo Fesenko of Utah. He might be worth a look.

WTF--I said he would be good for 1mmas a back up dude.

My apologies if I am incorrect. I actually like him here as backup.

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1/10/2011  1:27 PM
Rookie wrote:at this point...i would put the full court press on Minny for Love and one of their guards. They are lacking in experience, so would be likely to take Mason in any deal. Also, they are so far under the cap that numbers don't have to match and we could possibly also send Turiaf who they may again want as a reasonable contract for a veteran with a good attitude and leadership qualities and would be a good fit to b/u darko.

Randolf, Douglas, Turiaf and Mason and picks for Love, a guard and a filler piece

KLOVE?!?!?!?

He's practically untouchable. Are you kidding me?

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martin
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1/10/2011  1:29 PM
Rookie wrote:at this point...i would put the full court press on Minny for Love and one of their guards. They are lacking in experience, so would be likely to take Mason in any deal. Also, they are so far under the cap that numbers don't have to match and we could possibly also send Turiaf who they may again want as a reasonable contract for a veteran with a good attitude and leadership qualities and would be a good fit to b/u darko.

Randolf, Douglas, Turiaf and Mason and picks for Love, a guard and a filler piece

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1/10/2011  1:31 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Rookie wrote:at this point...i would put the full court press on Minny for Love and one of their guards. They are lacking in experience, so would be likely to take Mason in any deal. Also, they are so far under the cap that numbers don't have to match and we could possibly also send Turiaf who they may again want as a reasonable contract for a veteran with a good attitude and leadership qualities and would be a good fit to b/u darko.

Randolf, Douglas, Turiaf and Mason and picks for Love, a guard and a filler piece

KLOVE?!?!?!?

He's practically untouchable. Are you kidding me?

Kevin Love is not going anywhere. Especially for that package...

Nene/Camby/Jordan etc more realistic.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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