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SI reporter tweets: Exec involved in talks: "Melo will sign with Jersey. Nets are completely convinced of that now."
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matt
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1/9/2011  10:53 PM
I just don't believe anything that says Melo would sign with NJ until I actually see it. It just seems ridiculous that someone who is from the area and (apparently) wants to play for the NYK would be okay with playing for the Nets.

Just think about it. The Nets.

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1/9/2011  10:56 PM
loweyecue wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
skeng wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:From Hahn:

"A person with knowledge of the situation reiterated that Anthony's "desire is to get to the Knicks with the extension," but the Nuggets haven't engaged in meaningful talks with the Knicks. The sides have been in contact in the last few months, but the source said that when the Knicks have asked Nuggets executive Josh Kroenke and general manager Masai Ujiri what they would want in return, the response has been: "They don't know."

yeah, phuck those guys.. They don't know about Chandler the newest stud on the block? Landry Fields aka ROY? Phuck off being a GM then

Seriously, it'shard to figure out why Denver is going out of their way to stick it to us. But they are free to do what they see fit, we'll make sure we take it out on them when we play them.

Maybe they are pissed about Anthony leaving and they don't want him to go to his first choice.

Being pissed is one thing giving up on Cahndler/Firlds or Gallo for the crap they are taking back is just plain stupid especially after the type of season the first two are having. They are paid to do what's best for the team, not act as sissies trying to win ego battles.

No argument here, sometimes owners and mgmt are vindictive.

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1/9/2011  11:02 PM
loweyecue wrote:
skeng wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:From Hahn:

"A person with knowledge of the situation reiterated that Anthony's "desire is to get to the Knicks with the extension," but the Nuggets haven't engaged in meaningful talks with the Knicks. The sides have been in contact in the last few months, but the source said that when the Knicks have asked Nuggets executive Josh Kroenke and general manager Masai Ujiri what they would want in return, the response has been: "They don't know."

yeah, phuck those guys.. They don't know about Chandler the newest stud on the block? Landry Fields aka ROY? Phuck off being a GM then

Seriously, it'shard to figure out why Denver is going out of their way to stick it to us. But they are free to do what they see fit, we'll make sure we take it out on them when we play them.

I think it's not so much as sticking it to the Knicks but rather, what better negotiating tactic could they employ?

If Nuggets make first bid to NY (meaning the tell NY what they exactly want), then they set bar (presumably) low. They NEED to wait until NY makes a solid, explicit offer so that they can one-up it big time and see NY scramble to make it happen, and in the mean time they make sure every Nets (over) offer is leaked to the press in the hopes that Isiah, I mean Walsh, overreacts or outbids what they can reasonably get. But Donnie is napping until 23 Feb anyway, so that won't happen.

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1/9/2011  11:04 PM
David Aldrige just reported that everything is in place; just waiting on Melo to commit to signing an extention. Too much false info around. There was a report that Anthony was already on board.
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1/9/2011  11:04 PM
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/26957025?source=rss_blogs_NBA

UPDATED 9:59 p.m. ET

Carmelo Anthony "does not need to be convinced" to sign a contact extension as part of a blockbuster, three-team trade that would send the three-time All-Star to New Jersey, league sources told CBSSports.com Sunday night.

One executive involved in the trade talks called Anthony's stance on an extension with the Nets "a non-factor," because the teams involved "already know it won't hold up the deal."
The tipping point in moving Melo toward giving up his preference to wind up with the Knicks was the involvement of the Pistons, who would send Richard Hamilton to the Nets to help Anthony with his reclamation project in Newark, N.J., for the next year-and-a-half.

haha figured. Nets gonna gamble on Melo with his opt out in tact.

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1/9/2011  11:07 PM
martin wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
skeng wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:From Hahn:

"A person with knowledge of the situation reiterated that Anthony's "desire is to get to the Knicks with the extension," but the Nuggets haven't engaged in meaningful talks with the Knicks. The sides have been in contact in the last few months, but the source said that when the Knicks have asked Nuggets executive Josh Kroenke and general manager Masai Ujiri what they would want in return, the response has been: "They don't know."

yeah, phuck those guys.. They don't know about Chandler the newest stud on the block? Landry Fields aka ROY? Phuck off being a GM then

Seriously, it'shard to figure out why Denver is going out of their way to stick it to us. But they are free to do what they see fit, we'll make sure we take it out on them when we play them.

I think it's not so much as sticking it to the Knicks but rather, what better negotiating tactic could they employ?

If Nuggets make first bid to NY (meaning the tell NY what they exactly want), then they set bar (presumably) low. They NEED to wait until NY makes a solid, explicit offer so that they can one-up it big time and see NY scramble to make it happen, and in the mean time they make sure every Nets (over) offer is leaked to the press in the hopes that Isiah, I mean Walsh, overreacts or outbids what they can reasonably get. But Donnie is napping until 23 Feb anyway, so that won't happen.

if that last Tweet is true that the Knicks asked the Nuggets what they'd want in a trade & they replied "They don't know" then it implies the Nuggets were closed off to the idea of ever trading Melo to the Knicks from the very beginning & haven't even considered it an option.

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1/9/2011  11:11 PM
TMS wrote:
martin wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
skeng wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:From Hahn:

"A person with knowledge of the situation reiterated that Anthony's "desire is to get to the Knicks with the extension," but the Nuggets haven't engaged in meaningful talks with the Knicks. The sides have been in contact in the last few months, but the source said that when the Knicks have asked Nuggets executive Josh Kroenke and general manager Masai Ujiri what they would want in return, the response has been: "They don't know."

yeah, phuck those guys.. They don't know about Chandler the newest stud on the block? Landry Fields aka ROY? Phuck off being a GM then

Seriously, it'shard to figure out why Denver is going out of their way to stick it to us. But they are free to do what they see fit, we'll make sure we take it out on them when we play them.

I think it's not so much as sticking it to the Knicks but rather, what better negotiating tactic could they employ?

If Nuggets make first bid to NY (meaning the tell NY what they exactly want), then they set bar (presumably) low. They NEED to wait until NY makes a solid, explicit offer so that they can one-up it big time and see NY scramble to make it happen, and in the mean time they make sure every Nets (over) offer is leaked to the press in the hopes that Isiah, I mean Walsh, overreacts or outbids what they can reasonably get. But Donnie is napping until 23 Feb anyway, so that won't happen.

if that last Tweet is true that the Knicks asked the Nuggets what they'd want in a trade & they replied "They don't know" then it implies the Nuggets were closed off to the idea of ever trading Melo to the Knicks from the very beginning & haven't even considered it an option.

or that they want DW to make the first inevitable move because he has not?

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1/9/2011  11:16 PM
TMS wrote:
martin wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
skeng wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:From Hahn:

"A person with knowledge of the situation reiterated that Anthony's "desire is to get to the Knicks with the extension," but the Nuggets haven't engaged in meaningful talks with the Knicks. The sides have been in contact in the last few months, but the source said that when the Knicks have asked Nuggets executive Josh Kroenke and general manager Masai Ujiri what they would want in return, the response has been: "They don't know."

yeah, phuck those guys.. They don't know about Chandler the newest stud on the block? Landry Fields aka ROY? Phuck off being a GM then

Seriously, it'shard to figure out why Denver is going out of their way to stick it to us. But they are free to do what they see fit, we'll make sure we take it out on them when we play them.

I think it's not so much as sticking it to the Knicks but rather, what better negotiating tactic could they employ?

If Nuggets make first bid to NY (meaning the tell NY what they exactly want), then they set bar (presumably) low. They NEED to wait until NY makes a solid, explicit offer so that they can one-up it big time and see NY scramble to make it happen, and in the mean time they make sure every Nets (over) offer is leaked to the press in the hopes that Isiah, I mean Walsh, overreacts or outbids what they can reasonably get. But Donnie is napping until 23 Feb anyway, so that won't happen.

if that last Tweet is true that the Knicks asked the Nuggets what they'd want in a trade & they replied "They don't know" then it implies the Nuggets were closed off to the idea of ever trading Melo to the Knicks from the very beginning & haven't even considered it an option.

It's also possible Donnie is low-balling (taking some players off the table)and they're not sure there's anything they'd want of the available options.

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1/9/2011  11:17 PM
martin wrote:
TMS wrote:
martin wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
skeng wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:From Hahn:

"A person with knowledge of the situation reiterated that Anthony's "desire is to get to the Knicks with the extension," but the Nuggets haven't engaged in meaningful talks with the Knicks. The sides have been in contact in the last few months, but the source said that when the Knicks have asked Nuggets executive Josh Kroenke and general manager Masai Ujiri what they would want in return, the response has been: "They don't know."

yeah, phuck those guys.. They don't know about Chandler the newest stud on the block? Landry Fields aka ROY? Phuck off being a GM then

Seriously, it'shard to figure out why Denver is going out of their way to stick it to us. But they are free to do what they see fit, we'll make sure we take it out on them when we play them.

I think it's not so much as sticking it to the Knicks but rather, what better negotiating tactic could they employ?

If Nuggets make first bid to NY (meaning the tell NY what they exactly want), then they set bar (presumably) low. They NEED to wait until NY makes a solid, explicit offer so that they can one-up it big time and see NY scramble to make it happen, and in the mean time they make sure every Nets (over) offer is leaked to the press in the hopes that Isiah, I mean Walsh, overreacts or outbids what they can reasonably get. But Donnie is napping until 23 Feb anyway, so that won't happen.

if that last Tweet is true that the Knicks asked the Nuggets what they'd want in a trade & they replied "They don't know" then it implies the Nuggets were closed off to the idea of ever trading Melo to the Knicks from the very beginning & haven't even considered it an option.

or that they want DW to make the first inevitable move because he has not?

but the Nuggets are pretty much deeply involved in trade talks w/the Nets & all they have to say to the Knicks when asked what they'd want from them is "They don't know"? don't u think if they ever seriously considered us as an option they'd have some of our players in mind that they'd wanna ask for? personally i think the Nuggets have shut themselves off to the idea of trading Melo to NY out of spite.

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1/9/2011  11:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2011  11:18 PM
Phuck it, let's go beat the damn Lakers and not cry over shyt that's outside our control. I am not even sure I believe this will happen anyway. If Melo wants to play for the Nets, it's time to move on.
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1/9/2011  11:17 PM
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I figured that Carmelo would not sign. The Nets are crazy and desperate. What fools.

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1/9/2011  11:18 PM
loweyecue wrote:If Melo wants to play for the Nets, it's time to move on.

i agree w/u there... as much as i wanted Melo to come here, if he accepts a deal to the Nets, then the hell with him... if we can move on from Lebron, then we sure as hell can move on from Melo.

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1/9/2011  11:19 PM
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

# Nevertheless, Nets and Pistons were operating under belief there was an agreement. Denver wants NJ to take more money back now, source says 11 minutes ago via web

# Denver and New Jersey are still talking tonight, sources say.

Nuggets official insists they never agreed to deal pending NJ-DET arrangement for Petro. "People are trying to pressure us," source tells Y!

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1/9/2011  11:21 PM
Nets shooting themselves in the foot trying to hunt this Melo shyt down. If this trade doesn't go down it's not looking good for that franchise. Two highly respected, national team playing guys both making it known that they're not playing for the Nets, ever. Ouch.
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1/9/2011  11:44 PM
if this deal goes down, its gonna be interesting to see how anthony spins taking on "saving" the nets vs trying to help the knicks win it all.
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1/10/2011  12:34 AM
skeng wrote:Nets shooting themselves in the foot trying to hunt this Melo shyt down. If this trade doesn't go down it's not looking good for that franchise. Two highly respected, national team playing guys both making it known that they're not playing for the Nets, ever. Ouch.

Billups likely doesnt want to go to the Nets because he knows he is not apart of their future and is just trade fodder until they can replace him.

At the end of the day Carmelo wants out of Denver and wants his money. People can pretend Newark is not 15 minutes from Manhattan all they like but facts are the Nets will be in Brooklyn in 2 yrs when Carmelo will be just 28 years old.

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1/10/2011  12:37 AM
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skeng wrote:Nets shooting themselves in the foot trying to hunt this Melo shyt down. If this trade doesn't go down it's not looking good for that franchise. Two highly respected, national team playing guys both making it known that they're not playing for the Nets, ever. Ouch.

Billups likely doesnt want to go to the Nets because he knows he is not apart of their future and is just trade fodder until they can replace him.

At the end of the day Carmelo wants out of Denver and wants his money. People can pretend Newark is not 15 minutes from Manhattan all they like but facts are the Nets will be in Brooklyn in 2 yrs when Carmelo will be just 28 years old.

they'll still be the Nets tho... & will always play second fiddle to the Knicks in this market... that's gonna be the case whether they're playing in Newark or in Brooklyn, just like the Mets play second fiddle to the Yankees.

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1/10/2011  12:41 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
skeng wrote:Nets shooting themselves in the foot trying to hunt this Melo shyt down. If this trade doesn't go down it's not looking good for that franchise. Two highly respected, national team playing guys both making it known that they're not playing for the Nets, ever. Ouch.

Billups likely doesnt want to go to the Nets because he knows he is not apart of their future and is just trade fodder until they can replace him.

At the end of the day Carmelo wants out of Denver and wants his money. People can pretend Newark is not 15 minutes from Manhattan all they like but facts are the Nets will be in Brooklyn in 2 yrs when Carmelo will be just 28 years old.

Yeah but NJ? DANG! Even with him that team just doesn't excite me and I don't know how long it would be until that team was really a title contender. If i'm him I have to find a way to get to NY and play with a Stud Like Amar'e for the next 5 years. I just can't see myself passing up that kind of opportunity. I'd be willing to give up some cash for that kind of shot at making history and a real legacy. I'm not wired that way.

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1/10/2011  1:39 AM
As if Melo wants Rip.. The only part of Melo who wants Rip to NJ is Leon Rose
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1/10/2011  2:07 AM
Nets haven't requested permission to speak with Melo, its hard to believe theyd trade their youth for a star who might not stay. It would be irresponsible of the nets cuz theyd suck even more if he left them.
SI reporter tweets: Exec involved in talks: "Melo will sign with Jersey. Nets are completely convinced of that now."

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